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it's season 6 of jenji kohan's lady prison show and involves the repercussions of season 5's riot. a lot of the characters are in max and also there's a character called badison, because she's called madison, and also is bad. ok go do a talk about it!
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i love piper fight me !!
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Jul 28, 2018 08:23
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Opening of the first episode is real, real bad.
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Jul 28, 2018 09:25
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Escobarbarian posted:there's a character called badison, because she's called madison, and also is mad. Isn't this a nickname she gave herself? Like, her major character trait is that she desperately wants to be a wiseguy -- funny, charismatic, liked, respected -- but she's actually too belligerent, petty, mean and stupid to ever be like that. I think the actress is killing it too. Episode Three spoilers: Not super feeling the season, but I think that's because the season is mirroring the way the characters are isolated and compelled to turn against each other -- by the FBI, by the various Block gangs -- by having characters disappear for several episodes at a time, and you never getting the sense of whether a character will stick around or not. We don't know where the characters are half the time, or what they're doing when they're not there. So when they can have major bombshells like Freida turning on Taystee and Red, it's both shocking (I do not like Freida right now) but also a reflection of how little we know about what's going on, and therefore necessarily frustrating. Steve2911 posted:Opening of the first episode is real, real bad. It's totally a shout out to HBO's Oz, right? Black character in a maximum security prison cell sees alternate, theatrical versions of the cast performing directly to camera. They even have the Dorothy/Emerald City stuff (which is a recurring theme this season, of all things, it also turns up in at least two other episodes). Open Source Idiom fucked around with this message at 09:29 on Jul 28, 2018 |
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Jul 28, 2018 09:25
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Steve2911 posted:Opening of the first episode is real, real bad. Yeah, just started and not even Natasha Lyonne in that ridic outfit can save this opening
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Jul 28, 2018 09:40
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lmao ok the Piper bit got me ngl
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Jul 28, 2018 09:44
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The rest of the episode was fine I guess. I always hate that point in any long running show where they arbitrarily cycle out most of the supporting cast. No matter how justified it is in the story it always makes the show feel a lot smaller.
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Jul 28, 2018 10:30
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Ep 1 mostly good aside from the lovely Suzanne stuff, ep 2 meh
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Jul 28, 2018 11:17
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If their plan was to turn the show into the female version of the later seasons of Oz then mission accomplished I guess.
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Jul 28, 2018 14:01
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I enjoyed this series - it was a big step up from series 5 at least. I kinda struggled to get through 5 at all. I think skimming the supporting cast was necessary; since season 4 the recurring character list was getting pretty extreme. I feel they actually should have skimmed a bit more, like (full season spoilers) what was the point in keeping Sophia Burset around? She could have been in a different prison and still had the same scenes if they wanted to - I don't think she interacted with anybody inside the prison at all. Only giving Frieda some chemicals which turned out to be a red herring anyway.
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Jul 28, 2018 16:17
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I read online that a ton of characters are not even in the season at all. Is that true?
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Jul 28, 2018 16:17
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The Berzerker posted:I read online that a ton of characters are not even in the season at all. Is that true? (Episode 1 spoilers) Yeah, the series is set in a new prison (max security) and the cast has been cut down considerably.
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Jul 28, 2018 16:20
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Yeah I just googled who is missing and that sucks rear end. I think my wife can watch this season without me, I'm not down with this change.
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Jul 28, 2018 16:22
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At this point Suzanne is just exhausting to me.
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Jul 28, 2018 16:45
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episode 1 worth it if only for Alex Trebek saying "I'm here, bitch".
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Jul 28, 2018 17:04
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nooneofconsequence posted:At this point Suzanne is just exhausting to me. Same. I fast-forwarded through a lot of her stuff.
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Jul 28, 2018 18:13
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Three episodes in an nothing is clicking. At least in the previous seasons I felt sympathetic for some of the characters or interested to learn their backstories; so far even the flashbacks have been completely uninteresting.
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Jul 28, 2018 18:47
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Yeah, I dug the rest of episode 1, and 2 was alright. Passed out during 3 so I'll watch more today. In general I don't mind them cutting down the cast (holding out hope for a couple characters I would like to still appear, but they have most of the characters I want to be seeing) but ngl nooneofconsequence posted:At this point Suzanne is just exhausting to me. I wish she had been cut first lmao. I have been over Suzanne as a character for a few seasons now.
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Jul 28, 2018 19:12
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I finished up today. Nothing special but not as bad as I thought it would be.
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Jul 28, 2018 22:58
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esperterra posted:i love piper My friend, I have stood by you through thick and thin and shitposting but we may go no further together cuz Piper boring and she sucks I'm some episodes in and...I dunno. I used to dig Red and Nicky is always a delight but this season, I don't really root for ANYBODY anymore which is kinda weird? Except the new Jamaican lady who doesn't have a name, but she kinda rules.
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Jul 29, 2018 04:33
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Hometown Slime Queen posted:My friend, I have stood by you through thick and thin and shitposting but we may go no further together look bb I don't blame you but will it help if I mention I've always had a mad crush on Taylor Schilling so to take my Piper opinions w/ a grain of salt ????? I just love how unafraid they are to still be making GBS threads on her constantly b/c she really is an awful human being and I'm glad they don't sugarcoat it lmao. I like hot messes ok !!!! Also yeah this season is kinda weird, I'm on ep6 now though and still enjoying it quite a bit, but it definitely feels off by nature of splitting everyone up and throwing them in a new prison. I like some of the new characters but I'm missing some of the old ones I'm still not sure will show up or not, so RIP on that. Overall it's going better than that first episode led me to believe this season would. yeah Jamaican lady fuckin owns I wish she were in every scene just to say a line or two nice new name btw
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Jul 29, 2018 04:59
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esperterra posted:yeah Jamaican lady fuckin owns I wish she were in every scene just to say a line or two My favourite thing about her is that, particularly early on, you never know if she's actually going to be in a scene of not. She just pops up from off screen.
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Jul 29, 2018 05:09
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I miss Maritza.
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Jul 29, 2018 05:14
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nooneofconsequence posted:I miss Maritza. Yeah this is the biggest hole in my heart this season. Open Source Idiom posted:My favourite thing about her is that, particularly early on, you never know if she's actually going to be in a scene of not. She just pops up from off screen. lmao yeah, when she popped up from behind the barrier during that phone call scene w/ Red and Nicky I died
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Jul 29, 2018 05:17
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I thought she was African, not Jamaican. Her ‘Charlize Theron’ bit and telling Piper she wasn’t good at it was great. She never got named at all did she? I’d watch a show from her perspective. Gang wars? Drug trade? Whatever. Just cheerfully going about her day, taking care of wall rats.
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Jul 29, 2018 05:59
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I just realized who I'm rooting for this season, it's for (I'm on E7 fwiw)Fig and Caputo.
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Jul 29, 2018 06:18
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Jesus this show is basically The Walking Dead Two: More Human Suffering Porn Its good but even I cant watch it for casual pain
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Jul 29, 2018 06:30
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Literally almost everyone in this show is either irredeemable, insufferable, or both. I think Red is the only inmate I genuinely like. Oh and Frieda and Nicky I guess. I mean plenty of my dislike is buildup from other seasons but still. Everything with Piper and Alex literally makes me want to fast forward. I hate them both. The flashback of Carol and Barb, Jesus Christ. I can't decide if it was disturbing, or absurd to the point of hilarious. Also I have a visceral hatred of Badison. Like beyond her being a villain. Maybe it's the accent or something. Also it finally hits me what bothers me about so much of this show. The (I think) good guys are loving morons. On the brighter side Caputo is the best. Just the best. SamuraiFoochs fucked around with this message at 10:25 on Jul 29, 2018 |
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Jul 29, 2018 08:51
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LadyPictureShow posted:I thought she was African, not Jamaican. She did. Her name is Adeola.
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Jul 29, 2018 15:49
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https://twitter.com/nlyonne/status/1023588096980529155
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Jul 29, 2018 16:20
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I am through ep.6, and it's almost comical how hard they have to try to write anything for Piper to do. Of all seasons, this is the most "shes not like the rest and doesnt really belong here" Piper story we've had. I also feel like the show is trying to remind us that most of these women did pretty bad poo poo to get to prison. This is the first time since season 1 where it seems as if they've dehumanized some of the characters, but that might be some commentary about maximum security confinement. Over the last 3 seasons, this seems much more like a show about Taystee. And this season, at least through 6 eps, is making it seem more like that.
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Jul 29, 2018 16:35
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Sorry, I'm extremely bad with all accents and especially less common ones, whoops. I also must have missed where they named her? I just know her as the cool lady with rats who is down to party or stab as necessary.  At least they got rid of the loving AWFUL methhead duo. Although I found myself fast forwarding through anything regarding Piper and Alex as if they were the new methhead duo. I just don't CARE. I also found anything with Suzanne getting more and more unbearable. I think showing her mental illness in a goofy skit fashion was...I dunno if it worked well? Also, gently caress YOU, Black Cindy.  I'm kinda glad they brought Heely back for a little cameo. Heely was always one of the more compelling antagonists to me and seemed more fleshed out and real compared to the 'fantasy inmate' guard troupe they pulled out of their asses this season. Hometown Slime Queen fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Jul 29, 2018 |
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Jul 29, 2018 16:45
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When people say they fast forward through certain characters/plotlines do you actually mean you skip through every time they're on screen? I know it's bad form to tell people howto consume media but... How does any fiction make sense if you do that? stev fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Jul 29, 2018 |
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Jul 29, 2018 16:48
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Steve2911 posted:When people say they fast forward through certain characters/plotlines do you actually mean you skip through every time they're on screen? Because this show in particular has multiple stories going on. I was invested in the prison gang war, I don't give a poo poo about two characters moping around or getting prison married. You can easily skip those parts, just like you could literally fast forward through the methheads and not lose anything important.
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Jul 29, 2018 16:50
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Hometown Slime Queen posted:Because this show in particular has multiple stories going on. I was invested in the prison gang war, I don't give a poo poo about two characters moping around or getting prison married. You can easily skip those parts, just like you could literally fast forward through the methheads and not lose anything important. Yeah. I can't say I did it 100% of the time but fluff scenes about them cuddling while Alex complains about Piper's breath aren't worth poo poo. Am I the only one who has hated that relationship from the beginning because it was well established that Alex is a terrible person who did terrible things, even to Piper specifically, but it was like they eventually decided to have Piper and the audience forget all that?
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Jul 29, 2018 19:38
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I think the casting on young Barb and Carol is probably the best the show has done for young versions of characters. Also I would probably watch a show about them tbh
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Jul 29, 2018 21:06
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SamuraiFoochs posted:...it was well established that Alex is a terrible person who did terrible things, even to Piper specifically, but it was like they eventually decided to have Piper and the audience forget all that? Most bothersome case of this for me is the fat guard who gets his moment to shine as a stand-up friend and pretty good guy. Can the audience please forget that in a previous series he revealed that he used to make kids juggle grenades and raped/murdered a girl.
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Jul 29, 2018 21:18
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Up to Episode 5, liking this season wayyyyyy more than the last one. It's a bummer they wrote out Boo and way less a bummer but noticeable that Soso disappeared completely. But I can see why they did it; things are a lot tighter now.
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Jul 29, 2018 21:32
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Noonsaliwah posted:Most bothersome case of this for me is the fat guard who gets his moment to shine as a stand-up friend and pretty good guy. Can the audience please forget that in a previous series he revealed that he used to make kids juggle grenades and raped/murdered a girl. I think the Piper and Alex thing bothers me more because it reeks of what I'll call The Tumblr Effect, where fans on the internet are so obsessed with couples that the show decided they needed a main romance. So they completely sacrificed any good writing or characterization in favor of having an OTP.
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Jul 29, 2018 21:50
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I always took it more as Alex and Piper both being horrible human beings who deserve eachother.
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Jul 29, 2018 21:54
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