Jimmy Hats posted:

What's the cal on the sledgehammer

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

Don't be silly, gas is a liquid and physics says so long as it's not deeper than head-height he can't drown in it

Jimmy Hats posted:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1023683692605005824

Jimmy Hats posted:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1023683692605005824

GIRL BRAINS posted:

What if we fired the sledgehammer out of a cannon

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

If you'd like a quick primer on the difference between poking a little hole in something in a big empty room and applying a distributed crushing force in a tightly occupied space I'd direct you to the work of noted physicist Gallagher

COMRADES posted:

How would the tank get crushed by that if a .50 cal bullet couldn't deform it though?

Idk I've always used carbon fiber tanks for paintballing and the failure point has always been the valve. The tank itself is sturdy as poo poo afaik.

Besides OK it ruptures then:

https://www.computerworld.com/article/2852323/heres-why-hydrogen-fueled-cars-arent-little-hindenburgs.html

etalian posted:

I guess we will be finding how much new equity they will have to sale off to finance Musk's cash burn.

Phobophilia posted:

not convinced hydrogen will be viable until we get more renewables or fusion to actually make the hydrogen

quote:

Two men and a woman have sued SolarCity, and its parent company, Tesla, alleging serious corporate misbehavior.

The former retail employees claim that SolarCity tacitly approved the creation of "fake sales accounts," resulting in "unjustified bonuses" for some employees and the basis of an "unreasonably high valuation of SolarCity" for investors. The automaker acquired SolarCity in late 2016 for $2.6 billion.

In addition, the plaintiffs said they faced rampant harassment, discrimination, and inadequate overtime pay during their near-one-year tenure ending in mid-2017.

Tesla did not respond to Ars’ request for comment on Sunday.

The lead plaintiff in the case, Andrew Staples, who is gay, also alleged that he was "repeatedly and continuously harassed" by a supervisor from another department, Grant Katzenellenbogen.

"Specifically, this supervising employee continuously harassed Plaintiff Staples by calling him things like'bitch,’ 'pussy' and 'human being,’" his lawyers wrote. "These comments were made to Staples on numerous different days throughout his employment."

According to the civil lawsuit filed last Wednesday in San Diego County Superior Court, Staples reported the insults and the questionable corporate practices to various managers, including to CEO Elon Musk himself, who seemingly took no action.

Staples was then terminated from his position at the end of May 2017, which he believes was retaliation for his complaints.

Another man, Robert Ray, claims that he was subjected to age discrimination when he was fired—at the age of 59. The claims of the woman, Anquetta White, were not fully explained in court filings.

All three plaintiffs (Staples, Ray, and White) claim that when they attempted to inform management of these incidents, they were ultimately fired, which they argued contravened California’s whistleblower protection laws.

In addition, they claim that they were "not paid for all hours worked," including unpaid overtime hours.

It is not clear whether these firings were related to a wave of 1,200 SolarCity job cuts in October 2017.


A person with knowledge of the lawsuit who used to work in the San Diego office said that "thousands" of bogus SolarCity accounts may have been created by supposedly requesting solar panels for homes that turned out not to exist. Sometimes, these faux deals would be a valid residence but with a fake property owner's name—the real person did not intend to move ahead with solar panels.
This tactic allegedly resulted, this person said, in tens of hundreds of millions of dollars in phantom revenue. He added that more than a dozen people reported the practice to the relevant human resources representatives, and CEO Elon Musk himself, who never replied. Ars granted anonymity as this person feared reprisal from Tesla.

This former San Diego employee also said that, despite working for a high-tech energy company, the SolarCity office, just south of the Marine Corps Air Station Miramar, operated more like a struggling startup, with electrical plugins that didn't work, spotty office lighting, and even cutting back on sugar and creamer for the shared office coffee.

“Everything else behind the scenes was just crap," he said.

According to Michael Beardsley, a former Tesla employee who said he was "witness" to much of the allegations outlined in the lawsuit, confirmed the ex-employees' allegations. Beardsley, who is not named in the lawsuit, provided copies of emails that Staples sent to Tesla HR.

"I really appreciate you taking the time and effort," Staples wrote on April 14, 2017. "I have voiced my concerns in the past to management, but I haven’t received a response and the seemingly unethical behavior by some on the team hasn’t changed. I can put up with a lot, but to have people that I’m mentoring become frustrated, and some who have come to me in tears over these issues and others disturbs me. I’m concerned that those who are truly putting in the effort and who are upstanding individuals are becoming disheartened."

In addition, Beardsley explained, they were sent "incendiary pictures, memes and even pictures of female employees in their panties, etc." It is not clear under what circumstances such pictures were taken or obtained.

Beardsley provided Ars with an example of a picture of someone he said was a female colleague dressed in what appears to be a bra and underwear running on a lawn at night.

The San Diego ex-employee, who corroborated receiving that same picture from a different female colleague, was dismayed by what he called "frat boy locker room crap."

“I’ve never worked in an environment this unprofessional," he said.

Tesla has faced previous claims by factory workers who alleged racial and sexual harassment.

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

Different materials react differently to various types of stress, and carbon fiber is a lot more brittle than we're used to as a sturdy material in a consumer product. That article (and subsequent posts in the thread) seem to indicate that the tank has undergone the proper stress tests, but it's a very reasonable question to ask in a thread where a self-proclaimed materials engineer somehow ended up producing the Tesla.

UltraRed posted:

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/07/3-ex-solarcity-employees-claim-company-oversaw-bogus-sales-to-inflate-valuation/


Yowza!

etalian posted:

Tomorrow Tesla will be reporting their earnings.

I guess we will be finding how much new equity they will have to sale off to finance Musk's cash burn.


Also people are not selling off their Tesla surfboard reservations

http://time.com/money/5352634/elon-musk-tesla-surfboards/

EAB posted:

Using hydrogen to fuel cars is actually dumb and also, gay!

Spazzle posted:

Car Citizen.

quote:

But customers shouldn’t plan on hitting the beach anytime soon: The fine print says fins aren’t included, and delivery could take as long as 10 weeks.

DogonCrook posted:

I couldnt put my finger on it but he does remind me a lot of Roberts and its because he is obsessed with short sellers like Roberts is obsessed with goons. Its very telling when a ceo goes ballistic over something so minor it shouldnt even be on their radar. If they had courage in their convictions they wouldn't give two shits about these types of critics.

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

I don't think you understand the actual problem my dude

steinrokkan posted:

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

Like I said IDK about fuel cell engineering

DogonCrook posted:

Also re the solar company they are in an amusing lawsuit right now where they ripped off the roof of a guy who cancelled his order. Then they attempted to fix it without permission or approval and botched it as well lol. That company honestly sounds feral lol.

E: oh yeah and he cancelled because they straight up lied about the cost until hours before the install.

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

If you'd like a quick primer on the difference between poking a little hole in something in a big empty room and applying a distributed crushing force in a tightly occupied space I'd direct you to the work of noted physicist Gallagher

Mameluke posted:

Thinking of getting a new av now that Grimes is bad, any recommendations?

Mameluke posted:

Thinking of getting a new av now that Grimes is bad, any recommendations?

bring back old gbs posted:

from the CSPAM teslol thread
its all good but the real poo poo is in the last 2 pages god drat


TL;DR:
-Tesla Whistleblower is informed that a robot arm had a pin on it that was puncturing battery cells, is shown ~1200 punctured battery cells in a container.

-Whistleblower confirms the punctured cells have been short circuited internally.

-Whistleblower later notices the container is empty and finds out other Tesla employees have been filling the puncture holes with glue, and marking them as good.

-Whistleblower uses the inventory tracking system to find out where the cells ended up. 732 of the punctured cells ended up in Tesla Model 3's that were already on their way to customers.

-Tesla disables the inventory tracking system that allowed Whistleblower to do this.

-Musk goes on twitter and says the Whistleblower sabotaged Tesla operations.



jfc Musk is going to kill somebody with this poo poo and he will never be held accountable for it.

quote:

“Safety third. There’s not even a Rule Number Two. But even though there’s nothing in second place, safety is not getting promoted to number two.”

- Elon Musk

bring back old gbs posted:

jfc Musk is going to kill somebody with this poo poo and he will never be held accountable for it.