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ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Isn't kinda the thing with prostitution is that abolishing it historically doesn't do poo poo for actually stopping it?

Sex work in general is one of those things that will never, ever go away. One of the snags with it is that it tends to be pretty tightly tied to exploitation and human trafficking which are...bad things.

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Sex work in general is one of those things that will never, ever go away. One of the snags with it is that it tends to be pretty tightly tied to exploitation and human trafficking which are...bad things.


Tiberius Christ posted:

broke: abolish prostitution

woke: unionize sex workers

Basically any issue where self-proclaimed feminists actually agree with the religious right probably isn't actually feminist.

Count Uvula
Dec 20, 2011

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welp I read like 60 sinfest comics and every single one had to do with prostitution. Tatsuya Ishida is one laser focused dude apparently.
This one's my favorite of the ones I read:


Bonus PFSC:

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Basically any issue where self-proclaimed feminists actually agree with the religious right probably isn't actually feminist.

Sex work is a very complex issue overall because sex is just freaking complicated.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
...wow, Sinfest went waaay off the rails from last I heard even when it went full woke.

And I think it's either that the guy has ever never actually seen what a prostitute looks like outside of movies or every working girl in a 10 mile radius knows him by name. There's not really much middle ground with these people.

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦
How old is Sinfest? Holy poo poo

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
Did not expect a comic about granos.

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


Is Sinfest just a bizarro version of Cerebus, where the author's views take a hard turn into filibuster and they forget they were writing an entertaining comic at some point?

Tiberius Christ
Mar 4, 2009

sinfest is like the lorax except he speaks for the women

Altared State
Jan 14, 2006

I think I was born to burn

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat
Me too wolfie, mee too.



Imgur album

Brewmaster
Dec 10, 2007

Hi! I'm awkward.

Glad to see the spider meter is still pretty full.

BallerBallerDillz
Jun 11, 2009

Cock, Rules, Everything, Around, Me
Scratchmo

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Sex work is a very complex issue overall because sex is just freaking complicated.

There are a number of instructional videos online if you need help friend :glomp:

Brewmaster
Dec 10, 2007

Hi! I'm awkward.
Sooo...if you have Amazon Prime you get access to a bunch of books for free via Prime Reading. They added something recently called "Hit Reblog: Comics That Caught Fire", in which they give some background to the many popular webcomics we all love to poo poo on. I really wanted to recommend this book, but it's absolutely terrible. Just awful beyond words. Y'all should check it out.

Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

Tiberius Christ posted:

broke: abolish prostitution

woke: unionize sex workers

Firefly fanfic itt

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts
Jesus Christ, it gets worse-better. When people on Sinfest's official forums tried to point out that maybe there was nuance to the issue beyond "PORN BAD SEX WORK BAD", Ishida shut the forums down completely and rebuilt them to be explicitly SWERFy.

quote:

July 1, 2018
Take The Long Way Home
Posted by Tatsuya Ishida

Hi.

I'm launching a new forum for people who like the message of my comic.

The new forum will be anti-pornography, anti-prostitution.

It will favor the radical feminist perspective over a liberal or conservative one.

So if you'd like to participate in a forum environment more in harmony with the comic, I invite you to join.

http://www.sinfest.net/forum

Thanks.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

this is amazing

Elfface
Nov 14, 2010

Da-na-na-na-na-na-na
IRON JONAH

Besesoth posted:

Jesus Christ, it gets worse-better. When people on Sinfest's official forums tried to point out that maybe there was nuance to the issue beyond "PORN BAD SEX WORK BAD", Ishida shut the forums down completely and rebuilt them to be explicitly SWERFy.

How long until he stops making comics altogether because it's taking work from a female cartoonist?

Hattie Masters
Aug 29, 2012

COMICS CRIMINAL
Grimey Drawer

Elfface posted:

How long until he stops making comics altogether because it's taking work from a female cartoonist?

Soon, hopefully.

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts

Elfface posted:

How long until he stops making comics altogether because it's taking work from a female cartoonist?

quote:

quote:

quote:

if men are applauding your feminism, probably what you're saying isn't actually in women's interest. Total clarity, there.
Should we be worried about Tatsuya's message?
tbh I used to think Tat kicked the bucket and some radfem lady took his place cause... it was too in synch with I'm used to see in radfem circles... but at the same time that wouldn't be hard to spot if you're smart and willing to actually listen to radical feminists? Which I wanna believe it's true, Tat seem like a good person with a keen mind.

"No, it's okay when he does it, because"

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

But it feels so right!
Lipstick Apathy

Brewmaster posted:

Glad to see the spider meter is still pretty full.

Jesus Christ count the legs you imbecile. You goddamn moron.
It's obviously a bugmeter.

Count Uvula
Dec 20, 2011

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Besesoth posted:

Jesus Christ, it gets worse-better. When people on Sinfest's official forums tried to point out that maybe there was nuance to the issue beyond "PORN BAD SEX WORK BAD", Ishida shut the forums down completely and rebuilt them to be explicitly SWERFy.

I like that the largest thread on the forum is where there's a couple transgender radical feminists posting "Hi I love the comic and hate sex work and porn as well, am I welcome here?" and it's an absolute cluster gently caress.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Those wolf comics were amazing and I read them all.

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦
It's pretty easy to be anti-porn when you only jack off to what you draw yourself, so congrats to him for having some kind of internal consistency I suppose

Skeleton Mom
Aug 11, 2008

sex work is work, all work under capitalism is a master/slave dynamic. the things that are bad about sex work are also bad in every other job. unionize everything. the workers shall control the means of production

Legin Noslen
Sep 9, 2004
Fortified with Rhiboflavin

Karate Bastard posted:

Me too wolfie, mee too.



Imgur album

I can see why a stupid fuckface would think this is funny.

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Legin Noslen posted:

I can see why a stupid fuckface would think this is funny.
please do elaborate

lofi
Apr 2, 2018




Hjalmar posted:

sex work is work, all work under capitalism is a master/slave dynamic. the things that are bad about sex work are also bad in every other job. unionize everything. the workers shall control the means of reproduction

fixed

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.



Full collection here.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

Loucks
May 21, 2007

It's incwedibwe easy to suck my own dick.

ultrafilter posted:

Full collection here

Linking to huge imgur albums of artists’ work isn’t fair use, and you are an rear end in a top hat for doing it.

Instead people should buy Kirchner’s work directly from him on Amazon. He sells as pkirchner_45. It’s cheap and good and he even signed my copy.

Digamma-F-Wau
Mar 22, 2016

It is curious and wants to accept all kinds of challenges
Haven't gotten around to reading achewood yet but I encountered this in the wild

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

The Ayshkerbundy posted:

Haven't gotten around to reading achewood yet but I encountered this in the wild


One of my favorites :3:

Philippe is the best

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Loucks posted:

Linking to huge imgur albums of artists’ work isn’t fair use, and you are an rear end in a top hat for doing it.

Instead people should buy Kirchner’s work directly from him on Amazon. He sells as pkirchner_45. It’s cheap and good and he even signed my copy.

Is this like how when someone posts Far Side we always get a guy in here going "THESE ARE HIS CHILDREN TAKE THEM DOWN" or is that legit the entire book?

Either way maybe tone it down some? You come across as really angry.

Loucks
May 21, 2007

It's incwedibwe easy to suck my own dick.

It’s a big chunk of the book.

I’m not angry. It’s just not acceptable to hand out huge swaths of the guy’s work. This has already been addressed in this thread, so I’m not sure why saying “Not cool. Don’t be an rear end in a top hat” is especially controversial.

edit: I really don’t care if people post Cow Tools again, but posting an Imgur link to half of a Far Side Book would cross the same line.

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

Loucks posted:

It’s a big chunk of the book.

I’m not angry. It’s just not acceptable to hand out huge swaths of the guy’s work. This has already been addressed in this thread, so I’m not sure why saying “Not cool. Don’t be an rear end in a top hat” is especially controversial.

edit: I really don’t care if people post Cow Tools again, but posting an Imgur link to half of a Far Side Book would cross the same line.

I do hope you pay for all of your MP3s and never listen to them free on the internet, either.

But, like. You know a lot of people might never have heard of the guy's art before seeing that gallery. One comic is cool, seeing that there's more is real cool. Knowing where to buy the book is extremely helpful. Throwing a fit that people ON THE INTERNET are sharing images without express consent of the creator is a bit strange, however. Especially if you're only going to give a poo poo when it's done to creators you, personally, like.

Squidster
Oct 7, 2008

✋😢Life's just better with Ominous Gloves🤗🧤

Loucks posted:

Linking to huge imgur albums of artists’ work isn’t fair use, and you are an rear end in a top hat for doing it.

Instead people should buy Kirchner’s work directly from him on Amazon. He sells as pkirchner_45. It’s cheap and good and he even signed my copy.
He also sells his books on eBay, where I got my copies. His comics are great, and folks should support him.

Loucks
May 21, 2007

It's incwedibwe easy to suck my own dick.

Nuebot posted:

I do hope you pay for all of your MP3s and never listen to them free on the internet, either.

But, like. You know a lot of people might never have heard of the guy's art before seeing that gallery. One comic is cool, seeing that there's more is real cool. Knowing where to buy the book is extremely helpful. Throwing a fit that people ON THE INTERNET are sharing images without express consent of the creator is a bit strange, however. Especially if you're only going to give a poo poo when it's done to creators you, personally, like.

I do pay for content and have for years. If something costs more than I want to pay or has a lovely license I just don’t consume it. Not everyone has a seed box and Usenet account.

Squidster posted:

He also sells his books on eBay, where I got my copies. His comics are great, and folks should support him.

:yeah:

Unmature
May 9, 2008

Loucks posted:

I do pay for content and have for years. If something costs more than I want to pay or has a lovely license I just don’t consume it. Not everyone has a seed box and Usenet account.

:golfclap:

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Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Loucks posted:

I do pay for content and have for years. If something costs more than I want to pay or has a lovely license I just don’t consume it. Not everyone has a seed box and Usenet account.


:yeah:

Are you sure everything you've ever watched on YouTube was a legal upload from the original creators? What about gifs from movies? Where do you draw the arbitrary line that it becomes too much?

Edit: I don't really have anywhere to go with this but I'm looking for the Skull of Regret PFSC comic because it's swell.

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