AkumaHokoru posted:

. I have 3 different playgroups here in nyc 1 of them almost got ruined by a guy who got a Cedh list and then when he was told he couldn't because it was only valid in that format would constantly pretend he didn't understand the difference.

1 of them had a guy who insisted since he paid so much for his deck he shouldn't have to worry about power restrictions

PMush Perfect posted:

Here's the problem with bringing a cEDH deck to a regular EDH group: Unless everyone else there also has thousands of dollars to spend on a hundred pieces of cardboard, you have completely shut them out of playing on the same level as you.

AkumaHokoru posted:

Im speaking as someone who ran EDH playgroups at the store I worked at and people who heard about our groups coming in. I've posted about this before in the past. I am aware of the differences in the two formats and I know how people build poo poo.

what I am speaking on are people who are newer to EDH look up a list online don't understand there is a difference between cEDH and EDH and then trying to force groups into cEDH by power mashing on them. I have 3 different playgroups here in nyc 1 of them almost got ruined by a guy who got a Cedh list and then when he was told he couldn't because it was only valid in that format would constantly pretend he didn't understand the difference.

1 of them had a guy who insisted since he paid so much for his deck he shouldn't have to worry about power restrictions

the last group everyone hates playing because 3 of the players did this so they rarely meet.

people are really stubborn about the different formats for some reason which is why the casual people and the "I like brewing cool poo poo" people get mad.

let me be clear I'm not standing on either side of it because yo formats are formats but there is a big power gap and it does cause issues.

Matsuri posted:

...that was always obvious and was never in question.

That's why people aren't supposed to do that. The overwhelming majority of people in cEDH communities agree that cEDH should only be played against cEDH decks. If the problem is some new player or dumb pubstomper bringing cEDH decks to casual EDH games, that's a problem with the player and not the format, and they deserve to be rejected from the group until they bring a more appropriate deck or find a more appropriate group. The cases stated here:


are fringe cases and I still see this as nothing more than mistakes on an individual's level rather than the overarching format's level. If it's someone's misunderstanding that they can't bring a cEDH deck to a casual game, then it is that person who needs to be corrected and not the formats.

PJOmega posted:

So you have two groups of manchildren who believe in being the fun police?

PMush Perfect posted:

Here's the problem with bringing a cEDH deck to a regular EDH group: Unless everyone else there also has thousands of dollars to spend on a hundred pieces of cardboard, you have completely shut them out of playing on the same level as you.

KenBearlLOLOL posted:

In the spirit of mixing dumb casual Timmy/Johnny plays with $3k worth of Vintage-lite, here's a deck I finally bothered to put together that was inspired by a discussion on here sometime around C17 releasing: Ramos' Meme Halls. Using Nexus in the win loop both amuses me and helps delay carpal tunnel.

Toshimo posted:

I feel like a deck with several draw 7s and a way to recur it should probably have a Lotus Petal.

Also, how often do your really need Progenitus as an alt win-con or as a 5-color pitch card?

KenBearlLOLOL posted:

Reasonable points on both ends. I've focused the ramp on being both permanent and color-fixing but Petal is too good not to throw in, and Progenitus is a relic of the old Legacy lists I was using as a basis for the combo. It would take a relatively convoluted situation to actually make Progenitus relevant, and Petal looping would solve that in at least a couple of the scenarios I can come up with (i.e. too low on life for Deluge to clear the board, not enough mana to recast Ramos after a Verdict or use Rift to clear the board).

Toshimo posted:

I like Trace of Abundance as a 2CMC ramp in this deck that is also 3 colors for Conflux/Halls.

KenBearlLOLOL posted:

Hot drat, I never even noticed that card existed because I wasn't playing during Alara.

AlternateNu posted:

You should also probably be running Deathrite Shaman.

Toshimo posted:

Another thing I might consider for a deck like this is Bring to Light, but idk.

Matsuri posted:

Infinite Karma posted:

My phone's light is good enough for the light test. I have some high-quality proxies/fakes, and they're very obviously much dimmer than real cards with the light against the front of the card, looking at the card backs.

standard.deviant posted:

This--phone lights are just fine for the light test. The high-quality picture of the left side of the card looks pretty right to me, can you post one of the casting cost/expansion symbol as well please?

Gynovore posted:

Google "bend test", I'm told that's the best way.

Danger Diabolik posted:

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/garnas-graveyard-panic/?cb=1534370909
This is my first try building an aristocrats style deck using Garna the Bloodflame. Are there any budget friendly things I'm missing that would improve the deck?

AlternateNu posted:

Disciple of Bolas and Fleshbag Marauder's twin brother, Merciless Executioner.

Edit: Oh and Mind Stone + Talisman of Dominance for mana rocks.

Danger Diabolik posted:

Thanks!
What would you recommend cutting for the rocks and Disciple of Bolas?

tzirean posted:

Unstable Obelisk is very slow. Barter in Blood and Syphon Mind don't seem to help your gameplan as much as they annoy your opponents. Ornithopter looks like it's just there to be a cheap creature. I'd start with those.

Also, you should probably be running Blood Artist as well as Zulaport Cutthroat. And I promise you do not need Reliquary Tower.

Heath posted:

I have discovered that Vendilion Clique on an end step plus Tunnel Vision on my turn is an extremely funny combo.

Heath posted:

I have discovered that Vendilion Clique on an end step plus Tunnel Vision on my turn is an extremely funny combo.

midge posted:

Thrown together a first draft at a Lord Landfall deck, Still waiting on some other cards to arrive, but I submit it for the glorious judgement of the thread:

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/18-08-18-lord-landfall/

Edit : Test pulls are showing it has an issue getting going in until turn 5/6.

JoshTheStampede posted:

I'm pretty new to Commander and don't yet know for sure what the powerlevel/saltiness of my local store's playgroup is. Let's assume they are an "average" non-cEDH crowd. Are they likely to give me poo poo about a deck that contains a few potential infinite combos?

Or more accurately, one combo with a few payoffs - Its Aminatou with Felidar Guardian. Altar, Vela, Pirahna Marsh, or Angel of Destroying Permanents are the possible payoffs. I realize this is a super-basic "everyone knows about it" combo, but I don't know how touchy your average Commander group is.