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Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


I was quite impressed that the game so far hadn't forced any dumb decisions on you, but not letting you wait for the police pretty much throws that out the window. And it would have been super easy to avoid, too, if they'd just had the old man rush in to confront the supposed burglar, forcing you to follow. But instead you just have to do the dumb thing for no reason.

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morallyobjected
Nov 3, 2012

Tiggum posted:

I was quite impressed that the game so far hadn't forced any dumb decisions on you, but not letting you wait for the police pretty much throws that out the window. And it would have been super easy to avoid, too, if they'd just had the old man rush in to confront the supposed burglar, forcing you to follow. But instead you just have to do the dumb thing for no reason.

Carl probably already knew it was Leo, if we're being honest, and wanted to confront him about it

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

Episode 7 with TheLoneStar is now up. Also apparently I've been having severe migraines so I need to see a neurologist.

WFGuy
Feb 18, 2011

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That seemed like a pretty good sequence, actually. Mechanically it's interesting to ride the line on the perp's discomfort, it's funny as hell to see Connor play both good cop and bad cop like he's the one having a psychotic break, Clancy Brown is always wonderful to watch, and I think Connor is the truest expression of the apparent conceit of the game. It's possible for all of the characters to act like sociopathic players, for obvious reasons, but it actually works with Connor. He's not intended to exist within society and fit in; he's designed to figure out his enemy's drives and weaknesses, and then exploit them to complete his objective. He carries out the 'human' facade only when necessary to prevent people from imprisoning or destroying him, or to further another objective, and the effect is a vaguely alien intelligence, kinda like Fedule pointed out in Titanfall 2.

Of course, this is a David Cage game, so I'm sure that instead of exploring this properly they'll have Connor discover his True Humanity as the game goes on, and completely backtrack on something which used to be interesting.

my cat is norris
Mar 11, 2010

#onecallcat

CirclMastr posted:

Episode 7 with TheLoneStar is now up. Also apparently I've been having severe migraines so I need to see a neurologist.

I hope you'll be okay. :ohdear:

BioMe
Aug 9, 2012


WFGuy posted:

That seemed like a pretty good sequence, actually. Mechanically it's interesting to ride the line on the perp's discomfort, it's funny as hell to see Connor play both good cop and bad cop like he's the one having a psychotic break, Clancy Brown is always wonderful to watch, and I think Connor is the truest expression of the apparent conceit of the game. It's possible for all of the characters to act like sociopathic players, for obvious reasons, but it actually works with Connor. He's not intended to exist within society and fit in; he's designed to figure out his enemy's drives and weaknesses, and then exploit them to complete his objective. He carries out the 'human' facade only when necessary to prevent people from imprisoning or destroying him, or to further another objective, and the effect is a vaguely alien intelligence, kinda like Fedule pointed out in Titanfall 2.

Of course, this is a David Cage game, so I'm sure that instead of exploring this properly they'll have Connor discover his True Humanity as the game goes on, and completely backtrack on something which used to be interesting.

This game really works the best when the scenario in a scene is as straightforward as possible. No attempts at explicit character development or narrative theming, just simple goals like making sure the hostage doesn't fall, escaping Todd, make the suspect talk, and so on. The action is actually really good at places, somehow despite how lacking the setup tends to be.

The rear end in a top hat cop is such a lazy throwaway Cage villain though. Just like Todd and Bam Margera. If I could force him to fix just a single thing about his writing style it would be the constant reliance on frigging cartoon characters to raise tension.

BioMe fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Jul 26, 2018

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
I hope you're okay, man. In the meantime, this is certainly one hell of a David Cage game.

...looks like somebody forgot to set their ThisAlgorithmBecomingSkynetCost again.

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

Sorry, between the migraines and my sister's schedule, I don't know when the next episode is due.

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

Episode 8 with Valorie Curry is finally up. Tragically, this is the last episode she'll be in for a while, as she has actual acting projects and such to do. But check out her instagram for a chance to win a PS4 and signed copy of the game.

Poor neglected gun...

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

I forget, does Kara not have head-internet like other androids seem to? Could she have avoided this whole mess if she'd just Googled "homeless shelters" instead of pretending to sleep on the bus?

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

Really Pants posted:

I forget, does Kara not have head-internet like other androids seem to? Could she have avoided this whole mess if she'd just Googled "homeless shelters" instead of pretending to sleep on the bus?

It's cute that you think David Cage writing is going to have consistency.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Todd must have pawned her wi-fi to pay for his porn subscriptions.

morallyobjected
Nov 3, 2012

Really Pants posted:

I forget, does Kara not have head-internet like other androids seem to? Could she have avoided this whole mess if she'd just Googled "homeless shelters" instead of pretending to sleep on the bus?

Going anywhere official would probably get her recognised as a runaway android and she's trying to avoid attention. she's also not really thinking that clearly at the moment since she's just discovered she can go outside her programming and is just kind of running on instinct to get away first.

BioMe
Aug 9, 2012


morallyobjected posted:

Going anywhere official would probably get her recognised as a runaway android and she's trying to avoid attention. she's also not really thinking that clearly at the moment since she's just discovered she can go outside her programming and is just kind of running on instinct to get away first.

OK but how come does a robot accidentally fall asleep on the bus?

You just thought about the plot way harder than it deserves.

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

Episode 9 with Dan and Grace is up. No messianic allegories here, no siree bob!

BioMe posted:

OK but how come does a robot accidentally fall asleep on the bus?

Who says it was an accident? Maybe Kara is the secret mastermind behind, uh... Cyberlife?

Anticheese
Feb 13, 2008

$60,000,000 sexbot
:rodimus:

I don't think even GLaDOS would be this on the nose about Android Hell.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

They missed a prime opportunity to have a line of listless androids shuffling into a recycling smelter. Its entrance could have looked like a big laughing evil face.

WFGuy
Feb 18, 2011

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There is no way that Android Tartaros wouldn't have the equivalent of copper thieves ransacking every operational plug-and-play module from the androids to sell on eBay as "Lightly used."

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

WFGuy posted:

There is no way that Android Tartaros wouldn't have the equivalent of copper thieves ransacking every operational plug-and-play module from the androids to sell on eBay as "Lightly used."

if we reuse androids' broken bodies instead of making whole new ones then that means fewer androids are suffering at any given time, and I just hate androids so much

creating a massive waste crisis to own the oids

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


CirclMastr posted:

Episode 9 with Dan and Grace is up. No messianic allegories here, no siree bob!

I also don't remember Jesus going to hell in the bible. Where does it say that?

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

The Harrowing of Hell isn't in the Bible; it comes from the Apostles' Creed and Athanasian Creed.

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!
I got it. You know corn mazes?

Nobody's going to let you gently caress around with corn in this ecological collapse robot hell future, where work like waste management seems to be all android, and people are desperate for money.

Clearly, someone had a bright idea to make an advanced corn maze, and has been visiting the dump at off hours to do some, uh. landscaping.

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

Episode 10 with Calli and Michael is now up. This is the first chapter to mention Sumo, who is awesome and dogs are awesome.

Also don't tell Danaru but Slim lovely isn't dead. It'll break his heart.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Does Hank get mad if you ask him about Detroit's basketball team, the Detroit Basketball?

Fedule
Mar 27, 2010


No one left uncured.
I got you.
There are a variety of pertinent matters I could comment upon here but instead I'm going to ask why you are slandering The Witness like this

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

Fedule posted:

There are a variety of pertinent matters I could comment upon here but instead I'm going to ask why you are slandering The Witness like this

The Witness: "This game respects you as an intelligent player and it treats your time as precious."

Also The Witness: *makes you watch a video that's almost an hour long to solve one puzzle*

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

CirclMastr posted:

The Witness: "This game respects you as an intelligent player and it treats your time as precious."

Also The Witness: *makes you watch a video that's almost an hour long to solve one puzzle*

Tbf, given the infamous cloud in Braid, I think Jonathan Blow just has a compulsion to add a "screw you completionists" puzzle in every game. Plus it's a completely optional puzzle.

malkav11
Aug 7, 2009
Other notable Clancy Brown roles:
The Kurgan in Highlander
Father Justin in Carnivale
The sheriff in Sleepy Hollow
The guy the Punisher is chasing in Daredevil season 2.

Man gets around.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I loved his character in Carnivale, but was disappointed because it just got cancelled just as the plot got going.

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

Don't look now but Episode 11 with migraines is up. Migraines suck and I don't recommend them.

I will try to keep to a schedule from here on out but I'm definitely going to have to lean on co-commentators. Nothing hinders solo live commentary like what my neurologist calls "cognitive slowness."

WFGuy
Feb 18, 2011

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Toilet Rascal
I have been reliably and graphically informed that migraines do indeed suck, but the only advice I can give is to lean on your migraine-uncursed friends until it passes; it might not feel great to ask for help like that, but they probably already want to help however they can. Still, thanks for pushing through it to produce videos for mostly random strangers on the internet! Your priorities are out of whack, but much appreciated.

Boy, it sure would have been nice for Kara to have some sort of way out of the 'sit down/refuse' choice, huh? Something like deviant-android-hunting detectives making a beeline for them, that could be a much more important thing to worry about than cooked breakfast? Good thing they brought the laziest backup in the city, or that could have been a pickle.

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

Episode 12 with Dan and Grace is now up. Behold, the power of scanning squares! Then continue to behold it because that's literally the entire episode!

Replaying this episode for new endings is the worst.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
I wasn't crazy I saw it pop up for a split second :mad: I caught poo poo for being TOO observant

Anticheese
Feb 13, 2008

$60,000,000 sexbot
:rodimus:

That...Sure was an episode full of content. It's good to have you back, CirclMastr, but I'm so confused that someone signed off on this as good and worth including.

malkav11
Aug 7, 2009
The discussion of Marcus becoming leader of the Jericho androids basically because he shows up reminds me of the (amazing) Cinemax series Banshee, which starts off with a (never-named) professional thief getting out of jail, going to look for his former lover, and ending up becoming the sheriff of the titular Pennsylvania town because he happens to be at the bar at the edge of town when the new sheriff turns up and promptly gets killed in a bar fight with a couple of the local Amish crime boss' henchmen. Nobody'd ever actually met the sheriff in person, you see, so he just slides into the role and it takes a remarkably long time for people to catch on that he's not actually that guy.

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

Episode 13 with Ibblebibble is now up, and unlike the previous episode, this one has actual content! It also has far too much talk about nutritional information about a burger, which I could not bother to fact-check because migraines. You're lucky I'm even typing this much of a post for the update honestly.

I guess to make up for the fact that Markus did next to nothing in his last chapter, he's getting another chapter next instead of going on to Kara, so there's that to look forward to.

WFGuy
Feb 18, 2011

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According to a USDA summary I just found, 55% water is pretty reasonable for a beef-mince burger. Remember, all organic life on Earth is mostly water, and they apparently only cook off about 5-10% of the water that was in the raw meat.

EDIT:vv Agreed, it's kinda dumb to show it, but then this game does show "Likelihood of cooperation" go up by single percent increases, so it's par for the course. "Science details make me look smart!" writing, the most insecure kind of writing.

WFGuy fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Oct 10, 2018

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

WFGuy posted:

According to a USDA summary I just found, 55% water is pretty reasonable for a beef-mince burger. Remember, all organic life on Earth is mostly water, and they apparently only cook off about 5-10% of the water that was in the raw meat.

If it's just calling out the water that exists in all life, why call it out at all? I would have thought it would be calling out, like, the water/salt solution you sometimes see pork and poultry sold in or something. Why have it as a nutritional fact being scanned and displayed?

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!

CirclMastr posted:

Pineapple passion flavor, yuck. Why can't he drink Coke or Pepsi or whatever the future equivalent is in Detroit?
Well, Hank is a Millenial. He may very well have killed the big colas.

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CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

Episode 14 with Dan and Grace is now up. Nothing uncomfortable and awkward at all happens with a boat full of android refugees in a David Cage game. Nope, nothing at all...

And hey, next up is probably Kara's worst chapter, so there's that to look forward to!

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