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How do you feel about Archnemesis mods on rares?
Incredibly fun, I love them!
They're alright
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Filthy Monkey
Jun 25, 2007

Papercut posted:

I thiiiiink I've settled on an AW chieftain at this point -played some more of it last night and had more fun, plus sounds like everyone is gonna be arc totem heiro. Although I could do gc totem heiro 🤔
I did AW champion as my starter last league, and will probably do it again today. Not a mathil build, so that is nice. The new vaal version sounds like a nice upgrade for it.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1960538/page/1

My thoughts.

It feels kind of weak until you get Kondo's, at which point your damage will go up considerably. This should be priority number one.
It isn't very good at mapping. You can map, but compared to any clear speed build it is unpleasantly slow.

It is very good at running lab safely, and on the cheap. 99% of the time you'll just have brightbreak/eclipse out and be leapslamming through the levels. With the totems taunting, you will rarely get targeted.

I only really like it as a starter labfarmer, with the goal of building currency for a serious mapper (like inpulsa anything). Hang out in global 820 and get your trials done, then get to work labbing.

Filthy Monkey fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Aug 31, 2018

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Ugly John
Jul 18, 2009
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silvergoose posted:

Thanks! Sounds like rf and skellies are still safe, just gotta flip a coin.

One of those better or worse for league starter?

I think I'm gonna go RF Chieftain, and use Demi's guide for that. Setting yourself on fire hard enough to kill everyone else will never get old.

Thinking Smite might be a useful levelling skill for that?

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Devor posted:

One of the Guardian abilities makes Warcries instant

Not anymore. It was removed to make place for the new minion nodes.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Ugly John posted:

I think I'm gonna go RF Chieftain, and use Demi's guide for that. Setting yourself on fire hard enough to kill everyone else will never get old.

Thinking Smite might be a useful levelling skill for that?

I think consecrated path will be god tier for levelling rf. You leave a massive regen puddle under you every time you hit something.

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

The quickest substitution in the history of the NBA

Filthy Monkey posted:

I did AW champion as my starter last league, and will probably do it again today. Not a mathil build, so that is nice. The new vaal version sounds like a nice upgrade for it.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1960538/page/1

My thoughts.

It feels kind of weak until you get Kondo's, at which point your damage will go up considerably. This should be priority number one.
It isn't very good at mapping. You can map, but compared to any clear speed build it is unpleasantly slow.

It is very good at running lab safely, and on the cheap. 99% of the time you'll just have brightbreak/eclipse out and be leapslamming through the levels. With the totems taunting, you will rarely get targeted.

I only really like it as a starter labfarmer, with the goal of building currency for a serious mapper (like inpulsa anything). Hang out in global 820 and get your trials done, then get to work labbing.

Nice, thanks for the tips! Yeah even just playing it a bit, I could tell I wouldn't be loving it as a mapping build.

What are you using 820 for?

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

TheRat posted:

Not anymore. It was removed to make place for the new minion nodes.

Okay the new non-guardian notable available to all classes

quote:

Another cluster, Battle Cry, has been added near the Unwavering Stance keystone. It offers increased Warcry Duration, increased Warcry Cooldown Recovery Speed, and increased Warcry Buff Effect. The notable also makes using Warcries Instant.

The question is answered in patch notes

quote:

Instant skills can now be used while moving. This includes Warcries which have been made instant via Ascendancies or passive skills, and curses that are supported by Blasphemy. Note that a skill which is ordinarily instant (such as an aura) will not be instant, and therefore unusable while moving, if it has its cast speed changed by a support (such as Spell Totem).

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!
help I'm committed to doing stupid poo poo with these new heralds and I'm thinking a BV necro with both heralds supported by minion damage/speed

someone please stop me

Ugly John
Jul 18, 2009
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TheRat posted:

I think consecrated path will be god tier for levelling rf. You leave a massive regen puddle under you every time you hit something.

Ooh, yeah, gonna have to try that out. Would be cool if that got you to sustainable a lot earlier.

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!
Also here's a fun question: do we know what type of damage the Agony Crawler does? I'm guessing either phys or chaos, but I'd like to actually know.

Velveteen
Sep 17, 2011

I'm the type of pony everypony should know

TheRat posted:

There's plenty of room right now

Can I get an invite for TofuBear?

queeb
Jun 10, 2004

m



Man you can make some meaty staffs for arc totems, neat. Guess im doing that.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.
So ignoring the economic effects of his endorsements, are Mathil's builds actually good? Is it worth using them?

Osci
Oct 11, 2016

theshim posted:

Also here's a fun question: do we know what type of damage the Agony Crawler does? I'm guessing either phys or chaos, but I'd like to actually know.

Physical as a base, converting some amount (40? 60?) of it to chaos.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

theshim posted:

Also here's a fun question: do we know what type of damage the Agony Crawler does? I'm guessing either phys or chaos, but I'd like to actually know.

60% phys, 40% chaos

Clarste posted:

So ignoring the economic effects of his endorsements, are Mathil's builds actually good? Is it worth using them?

They're usually decent at least, but I normally recommend people drop some dps for defence because mathil is a jedi and relies on his reflexes to survive.

Filthy Monkey
Jun 25, 2007

Clarste posted:

So ignoring the economic effects of his endorsements, are Mathil's builds actually good? Is it worth using them?
I am sure they are fine. He knows what he is doing. He does have a reputation for doing glass-cannon type builds though.

Papercut posted:

What are you using 820 for?
People share lab trials in 820. Finding them all on your own can sometimes take longer than you would like. Picking up missing trials in 820 lets the uberlab farming commence.

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

Consecrated ground is incredible and was one of my alternatives to vaal pact bullshit when it was overused

Wozbo
Jul 5, 2010
Is the herald of agony using attacks or spells? Trying to come up with 3 links. Thinking minion damage, minion speed, faster attacks.

E: Vile toxins?

Wozbo fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Aug 31, 2018

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





TheRat posted:

I think Ive caught every invite request so far, but there are still 54 guild slots open so if you want to be in the guild early league now is definitely the time to ask. Experience says it will be full tomorrow and Ill have a 30 name waiting list in a few days

Do you think there will be a purge before Tuesday night? I am starting this league out of the country and Tuesday night is the first time I will be able to log in.

LocatorArcs is my character from Incursion and I believe I survived the initial purge because I played Wednesday before I left.

Melek
May 23, 2003
Why would I get a DVD ROM drive when I have two DVD players in my house? Please send me $50 cash so I can get a DVD Drive. Or better yet please send me $10 bux so I can have this ugly red title removed.
Could I get a reinvite as well? Character name: Melekraid

Herewaard
Jun 20, 2003

Lipstick Apathy
Path of Building has been updated with the new and reworked skills and such

BobbyK
Jun 4, 2008

by Cyrano4747
Could i get a guild invite: Lilpoetwitchy

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

TheRat posted:

They're usually decent at least, but I normally recommend people drop some dps for defence because mathil is a jedi and relies on his reflexes to survive.


Filthy Monkey posted:

I am sure they are fine. He knows what he is doing. He does have a reputation for doing glass-cannon type builds though.

I see. Thank you.

Sarmhan
Nov 1, 2011

TheRat posted:

"character does not exist"

Huh I must have deleted that one, try " AzuritePower "

Trogdos!
Jul 11, 2009

A DRAGON POKEMAN
well technically a water/flying type
Can I get a goon guild invite for Cyclone_Ben_Garrison

tia

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

The Locator posted:

Do you think there will be a purge before Tuesday night? I am starting this league out of the country and Tuesday night is the first time I will be able to log in.

LocatorArcs is my character from Incursion and I believe I survived the initial purge because I played Wednesday before I left.

There will not be a purge before Tuesday night as sky is away for the launch week. LocatorArcs does not exist however, so I couldn't check if you were in the guild.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ein Sexmonster posted:

try " AzuritePower "

Nice.

Sarmhan
Nov 1, 2011


Sadly BattleforAzuroth was taken.

Ugly John
Jul 18, 2009
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Could I get a guild invite as well, please, if there's still room?

Character name is YetAnotherStupidTrapper.

MMF Freeway
Sep 15, 2010

Later!

Wozbo posted:

Is the herald of agony using attacks or spells? Trying to come up with 3 links. Thinking minion damage, minion speed, faster attacks.

E: Vile toxins?

Attacks. I've seen people mention vile toxins, but does the crawler have a chance to poison? I was thinking more like gmp, vicious proj and withering touch.

Wozbo
Jul 5, 2010

MMF Freeway posted:

Attacks. I've seen people mention vile toxins, but does the crawler have a chance to poison? I was thinking more like gmp, vicious proj and withering attacks.

I think you are going to be poisoning poo poo anyways and white/ blue mobs it won’t matter.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ein Sexmonster posted:

Sadly BattleforAzuroth was taken.

I think AzuritePower is better. You did miss out on HeartOfAzurite, though.

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


Still switching back and forth between CI HoWa AW Heiro or Mana Guardian. HoWa is WAY cheaper but I'm kind of meh on AW totems for mapping, four of them does help. Mana Guardian I'll level arc totems grabbing Totemic Mastery, Ancestral Bond and probably Shamanistic Furry for leveling then respec around 75 or so.

HoWa using ALL uniques - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1989546
Generic Mana Guardian - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2088517


Thought about a max block BF Gladiator on the reddit hunch they nerfed block because it'll be powerful in delve. Need to play with tree more, was attempting to get max block while dual wielding to enjoy stat sticks before they go away.

NitroSpazzz fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Aug 31, 2018

MMF Freeway
Sep 15, 2010

Later!

Wozbo posted:

I think you are going to be poisoning poo poo anyways and white/ blue mobs it won’t matter.

Ah okay I see so its just benefiting from the bonus hit damage from the poison stacks but not the flat poison damage. Still not sure its better than a few other options like pierce but definitely a bonus if you put it in the embalmer gloves.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





TheRat posted:

There will not be a purge before Tuesday night as sky is away for the launch week. LocatorArcs does not exist however, so I couldn't check if you were in the guild.

Thanks, I should be ok then. It's probably "TheLocatorArcs", but thanks for looking. I am bad at remembering names, even of my own characters!

remember
Nov 23, 2006
I'm leaning towards doing a fire trap build but I'm still considering doing GC mines. I figure it'll be easier to pick up the gear for GC mines, and I'm worried about how expensive Shroud of the Lightless will be without Zana Abyss mod.

Holyshoot
May 6, 2010

Wuxi posted:

I feel like you're underestimating totems here a bit. Mathils old shimmeron arc totem build had something along the lines of 500k dps per totem. Thats with the stuff he had in bestiary, so good 3-stat jewels and a 21/0 arc, but without Soul Mantle. He has claimed that a good shaped staff would out damage that in 3.4, which I would find pretty crazy since shimmeron is one hell of a lot of damage, but if its anywhere close to those numbers it definitely doesn't have to hide from traps.

Except you have to use a staff.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Some updated builds with the new PoB update:

https://pastebin.com/xLS0CbmR - Trickster Caustic Arrow
https://pastebin.com/YYjwAc2f - Champion Sunder
https://pastebin.com/CUqyTh8H - Guardian Smite (herald of purity links are not at all set in stone)
https://pastebin.com/hKj5AwMm - Inquisitor Incinerate
https://pastebin.com/iPT6EZ2k - Chieftain Ngamahu
https://pastebin.com/dEk5161S - Juggernaut RF
https://pastebin.com/KbVHbs0j - E Q J U G G
https://pastebin.com/7K620m6Y - Pathfinder Herald of Agony split arrow poison (extremely experimental and the herald of agony links are fairly random)

Updated filter: All strictness levels in one link, pick the one you want or click download all:

http://www.filterblade.xyz/#JoKzHVwgU9la

E: I hosed it up like 3 times, so if you downloaded it before the last edit of this post you should download it again.

TheRat fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Aug 31, 2018

Clockwerk
Apr 6, 2005


Bless you, Rodent

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


Hmm I was going to go pathfinder but I think I'll go trickster instead. Also gently caress flask bashing.

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theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!
in a few hours I am going to play the video game "Path of Exile" and you cannot stop me

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