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the lenz is cool and all, but the new kid on the block pretty much acts like the fusion mortar from tribes with added bonus seeker projectiles i'm of course talking about the altfire of the phantasma, which feels great to use, is a status monster and only takes 2 argon to build in terms of non-standard resources
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I've got too many guns to use and stuff is levelling so fast with sanctuary that I dont get a good feel for many of them. I do really like the twin rogga, but it's not displacing my sonicor anytime soon. Is there an ignis equivalent for secondaries?
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Synthbuttrange posted:Is there an ignis equivalent for secondaries? I feel like this is the Atomos?
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Synthbuttrange posted:
Atomos or Embolist.
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Sep 4, 2018 03:56
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Bandwagoning on the Atomos recommends.
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I like the atomos but it still requires you to be able to hit one target and it's more a baby Amprex?
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Sep 4, 2018 04:01
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a note i forgot to add about the phantasma is that the base status is so high that you can max it out with only 3 elemental dualstats but can easily get by with 80%+ with only 2 because it doesn't work on shotgun rules when it comes to status despite using shotgun mods also with the way you want to eventually mod it you can easily scrape by with just a couple forma to get it fully tricked out. if you like beam weapons and/or exploding plasma then it's a VERY usable weapon.
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Sep 4, 2018 04:02
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I'd get around to using other weapons again sometime but I recently switched up my ignis to 100% status blast + corr. Everyone I aim it at gets a seat.
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Synthbuttrange posted:I like the atomos but it still requires you to be able to hit one target and it's more a baby Amprex? as far as secondaries go the atomos is pretty much it in terms of being like the ignis. or at least, pretty much it in terms of being good and like the ignis. the embolist is...a thing. it's not as good as i would want it to be.
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Embolist is definitely the one that has the most similar mechanics, but it sucks. Nukor is kiiiinda similar I think, and also very silly. But both suck compared to the Ignis. Atomos and Synoid Gammacor are the most effective beam secondaries, but they don't have the width that Ignis has.
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Sep 4, 2018 04:21
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I do have an embolist riven. Might roll that a few times and see if I can make the embolist decent
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ElegantFugue posted:Embolist is definitely the one that has the most similar mechanics, but it sucks. Nukor is kiiiinda similar I think, and also very silly. But both suck compared to the Ignis. Atomos and Synoid Gammacor are the most effective beam secondaries, but they don't have the width that Ignis has. Nukor's spread is too tiny to be like Ignis. Trust me, I have a good riven for it so I tried to make the drat thing to work. It's crippled by the base damage being too low. Atomos has the same mechanic as Amprex. Embolist is the one with the mechanic of Ignis but the range is crazy short that it's practically a bug spray. Being a secondary, it's also crippled by tiny ammo pool.
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Peculiar Growth doesnt stack with Nukor this is a travesty ed: wait, does it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuTJC8U8u40 Synthbuttrange fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Sep 4, 2018 |
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Sep 4, 2018 04:31
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wid posted:Nukor's spread is too tiny to be like Ignis. Trust me, I have a good riven for it so I tried to make the drat thing to work. It's crippled by the base damage being too low. I have a Nukor with a pretty good Riven and it works just fine for most sortie missions. The cool thing about Nukor is it adds a 100% damage boost to any body part that's been enlarged and a 50% damage boost to fire from teammates. Probably helps that I usually use Mirage for those missions, though.
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nukor was a reddit darling for a while because you can get some really big numbers out of it. it's not especially impressive even with those big numbers though, since it requires shooting a single enemy for a while to get those numbers. turbo-loving single enemies is rarely all that useful.
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Sep 4, 2018 04:53
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The most Ignis-like secondary is actually Pyrana P with both multishot mods, despite not looking like it visually it's a "hold down fire and see everything die" weapon. No need to aim or nothing.
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Johnny Joestar posted:a note i forgot to add about the phantasma is that the base status is so high that you can max it out with only 3 elemental dualstats but can easily get by with 80%+ with only 2 because it doesn't work on shotgun rules when it comes to status despite using shotgun mods It does work on shotgun rules, actually.
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Sep 4, 2018 05:37
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Helter Skelter posted:It does work on shotgun rules, actually. There are no rules but multishot rules.
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Sep 4, 2018 05:57
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Update: 21 runs in I have finally gotten a second Atlas part. 20 chassis and 1 neuroptics.
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turn off the TV posted:There are no rules but multishot rules.
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Sep 4, 2018 08:16
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Pyrus Project Fixes: Fixed issue with context action allowing more than intended Pyrus Essence. Fixed Pyrus Essence not dropping from Nox enemies when they are marked as Essence Carriers. Fixed the Jordas Golem being marked as an Essence Carrier.
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Sep 4, 2018 08:44
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gently caress that event btw in related news: finally did that Ceres hijack (after countless attempts where an event squad spawns in the way), it's insane how easy the content on Jupiter is compared to that game is good again
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Sep 4, 2018 09:08
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McKilligan posted:I've still got 2 Smeeta imprints (Fennec Head, Mermaid Tail) up for grabs if anyone needs them. Yes please.
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Sep 4, 2018 09:30
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McKilligan posted:Whelp, my Inaros quest has bugged out twice now - I'm on the final chapter (killed a bunch of juggernauts for the vase relic thing), I take it to the tomb and plop it down, then the Tomb Defender spawns. Every time I kill him, the game doesn't register the kill, and he either disappears or sits on the map at 0 HP, not moving. My suspicion is warframe uses a scripting system that is very sensitive to network conditions maybe stop downloading midget porn while you are doing the quest, if you are truly desperate disable firewalls and/or open ports like the chinese did in the opium wars. And maybe abort the mission as soon it seems script-broken already. And/or change ISP.
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 Clearly I am someone who respects themselves, I say after 4 hours straight of Jordas runs to get that final loving piece
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Tei posted:My suspicion is warframe uses a scripting system that is very sensitive to network conditions maybe stop downloading midget porn while you are doing the quest, if you are truly desperate disable firewalls and/or open ports like the chinese did in the opium wars. it's actually the opposite, if you're playing solo you can literally disconnect your internet cable during the mission and plug it back in at the rewards screen. It's just bad regular, non net code.
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I mean, have you seen their movement interpolation in relays? Or played FrameFighter while having any experience with normal fighting games? DE seems to have barely any netcode experience and they seem to sync absolute minimum they can get away with.
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I was wrong, but stopping downloading midget porn was a good advice. ---- I finnaly got my hands on Ivara (I had to cave, and pay plat for her ). And OH BOY, is all the thing I thought she would be. Ivara is all the things: "Spy - Spec Ops - James Bond - Imposible Mission - H`assashin - Massacre of Texas", in a no-op/op package. I don't feel op with Ivara, I just feel I have all the tools to do everything, If I ever control these tools. I never heard before that Ivara have a bow. She does have a bow. And with my crappy mods for something like yellow 24000 damage (or my eyes are wrong?). That does feel OP. So is another frame that goes GOD MODE when theres a trinity around. Invis and that stuff, I can't claim I understand was going on. Stacked more duration *increased* cost from 0.33 to 1. heeee... wat?, I can finnaly use Ivara to do these pesky spy missions, so I can unlock Ivara!. Or do a extermination mission in invis mode, making photos of everyone with their pants down, to get a lot of faction points. And stuff. I wanted her more for variety. Tei fucked around with this message at 11:43 on Sep 4, 2018 |
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for sustained powers, efficiency is more important than duration. the minimum drain per sec is still 175eff and 40dur, i think.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:for sustained powers, efficiency is more important than duration. the minimum drain per sec is still 175eff and 40dur, i think. That doesn't sound right to me. Duration significantly increases the per energy tick duration. I just tried a chanelled ability with 175eff and 40dur and the drain was at least 3 times as fast as 175eff/208dur. I mean, agreed on efficiency being more important but duration also plays a very important part, it can't be negative. Or is that an Ivara only thing?
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:for sustained powers, efficiency is more important than duration. the minimum drain per sec is still 175eff and 40dur, i think. 190% efficiency with 40% duration, or 175% efficiency with 100% duration.
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nerdz posted:That doesn't sound right to me. Duration significantly increases the per energy tick duration. I just tried a chanelled ability with 175eff and 40dur and the drain was at least 3 times as fast as 175eff/208dur. i got the exact numbers wrong, but the idea is that efficiency has a hard cap for sustained powers, but if you stack efficiency past that cap you can go into negative duration with no ill effects.
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Helter Skelter posted:190% efficiency with 40% duration, or 175% efficiency with 100% duration. How do you get to 190% efficiency?
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wid posted:Nukor's spread is too tiny to be like Ignis. I was unaware the Nukor had spread. Jack Trades posted:The most Ignis-like secondary is actually Pyrana P with both multishot mods, despite not looking like it visually it's a "hold down fire and see everything die" weapon. Can Confirm.
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nerdz posted:How do you get to 190% efficiency? Slot maxed Streamline and Fleeting Expertise. Energy use is hard capped to never fall below 25% of base, and the arsenal UI will never show more than 175%, but slotted efficiency past 175% is still counted when you're dealing with efficiency loss from reduced duration.
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Sep 4, 2018 12:28
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Protip for Ivaras bow: Heavy Caliber.
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Psycho Landlord posted:Dog-Sothoth nice
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What is the best way to build Khora? I'm guessing heavy power strength and range? And how should I build Venari?
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Helter Skelter posted:And like most status-based shotguns that aren't named Astilla or Arca Plasmor, you actually do want 100% status on the Phantasma because it does have innate multishot on both fire modes. Since beam multishot just combines to one tick it actually doesn't matter how much status chance you put on it for its primary attacks.
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turn off the TV posted:Since beam multishot just combines to one tick it actually doesn't matter how much status chance you put on it for its primary attacks. Right but there are five beams, and status appears to be split among them like a pellet shotgun. Going to 100% status makes a significant difference in this case.
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