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The Cheshire Cat posted:I think the female ferret thing is only if you don't get them spayed though. It has something to do with a buildup of hormones but if they've been fixed then they no longer produce them. Ferrets have also been horrifically inbred by industry groups that only provide fixed animals and are prone to all sorts of diseases because of said genetic mismanagement, with little option for someone to try to breed a more resilient or domesticated line. Which is sad, because (your friend's) ferts are awesome fun meat slinkies to play with 
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yeah rabbits require more effort than the author knows here too.
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Alkydere posted:Horses should be lower on fun. You gotta be a dedicated horse person with a big ol' plot of land to really enjoy a horse. Ideally with a giant stack of cash, and someone else to shovel the manure. If there's anything on this chart I'd nitpick it's how difficult cats are. Put out food, deal with their litter, give them something to scratch and you're set. Some cats have more needs, but in my experience your usual healthy lazy cat requires very little. I had a lot more trouble with my attempt at keeping pet rabbit than I've ever had with a cat.
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In the context of pets, money can be used as a substitute for effort.
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Bongo Bill posted:In the context of pets, money can be used as a substitute for effort. That's true for almost everything, though.
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Alkydere posted:Horses should be lower on fun. You gotta be a dedicated horse person with a big ol' plot of land to really enjoy a horse. Ideally with a giant stack of cash, and someone else to shovel the manure. Eiba posted:What you're describing is what I would consider effort. Horses should be very high on the effort scale because you need all that poo poo. And they are- comparable to babies on the chart. That more or less checks out from what I know of my horse owning aunt. And in terms of fun, if you put all that effort in (including land and poo poo) you get to ride the horse. I'm not a horse person by any means, but I can understand how that fact might rate them highly on the "fun" scale. You also need an abundance of ant traps. This cannot be overstated.
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I live in a horsie area and it costs maybe £100 a month to keep a horse here, still got to keep the field poo poo free though. The horse itself costs £0-£10,000,000 depending on quality.
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Zamboni_Rodeo posted:You also need an abundance of ant traps. This cannot be overstated. Poor ol' Freckles
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Poor ol' Freckles thought of ants and died? it seems silly
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Biology beating philosophy is good, but geoscience most exceeded my expectations.
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Platystemon posted:Biology beating philosophy is good, but geoscience most exceeded my expectations. Republicans just don't have the stones to get into geoscience.
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System Metternich posted:
Does no one in America think it's weird that you guys register your political preferences in advance? I'm surprised by Religion, which I assume they mean Theology, I would have thought you'd have had a bunch of Christian Republican scholars there. Still even in the STEM fields Republicans are still vastly outnumbered.
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Aramoro posted:Does no one in America think it's weird that you guys register your political preferences in advance? I'm surprised by Religion, which I assume they mean Theology, I would have thought you'd have had a bunch of Christian Republican scholars there. Party registration is important for our primary election system, but also those figures are probably self reported rather than actually checking registration.
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Goon Danton posted:Party registration is important for our primary election system. But why? Like don't you just get to rock up and vote for whoever?
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Aramoro posted:Does no one in America think it's weird that you guys register your political preferences in advance? I asked that once, myself. I think it's to do with the bullshit of the electoral college. But, yeah, it still weirds me out, too.
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Aramoro posted:Does no one in America think it's weird that you guys register your political preferences in advance? I'm surprised by Religion, which I assume they mean Theology, I would have thought you'd have had a bunch of Christian Republican scholars there. Conservatives have no interest in learning about their religion
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Aramoro posted:But why? Like don't you just get to rock up and vote for whoever? It depends on the state. In many states you have to register as a member of a political party to vote in their primary election, where the candidates for most offices are chosen. For the general election it doesn't matter.
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Aramoro posted:But why? Like don't you just get to rock up and vote for whoever? Do you understand the distinction between primary and general elections? Because you can absolutely just walk up to vote without registering for a party in the latter, while the former varies by state. Most of Israel's parties require you to register to vote in their primaries, too (if they have primaries at all), and unlike in the US, they actually charge dues. This isn't some magical American thing.
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And this all is why party registration is a rubbish metric because to have party registration you need to be engaged in politics enough to care about primary elections. It's often used as a lazy short-hand for political beliefs instead of actually researching political beliefs.
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Not to mention that in a city like, say, Baltimore, you can agree right on down the line with Republican ideals, but there are too few actual Repubs in the city to get anyone elected. So you register with the Democrats anyway and just vote for he most Republican candidate running for the Democratic nomination. I apologize that this was not a terrible graph.
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Sulphagnist posted:And this all is why party registration is a rubbish metric because to have party registration you need to be engaged in politics enough to care about primary elections. True, but I'm looking at the article the data is from and the author says that altogether 76.6% of his sample of 8,688 professors from 51 colleges all over the US were registered with a political party or as independent, so at least for his focus group of tenured, PhD-holding professors at leading liberal arts colleges his results should be representative. The author also seems to be on the "They're discriminating against us by not employing racist nutcases!  " side (fake edit: and after looking at his personal blog: boy, is he ever) and in the article's text deliberately tries to make the Republican numbers appear even lower, so keep that in mind I guess.
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System Metternich posted:
Yeah they only have five times as many Democrats
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The important thing to get from that graph is that Republicans are just dumb as poo poo
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Do you understand the distinction between primary and general elections? Because you can absolutely just walk up to vote without registering for a party in the latter, while the former varies by state. Most of Israel's parties require you to register to vote in their primaries, too (if they have primaries at all), and unlike in the US, they actually charge dues. This isn't some magical American thing. Using Israel as an example of something not being a weird American thing doesn't really work. Primaries themselves are an American thing, like they were invented in America in that form. Obviously other countries copy the idea from America, but they are an American thing.
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Aramoro posted:Using Israel as an example of something not being a weird American thing doesn't really work. Primaries themselves are an American thing, like they were invented in America in that form. Obviously other countries copy the idea from America, but they are an American thing. I guess if you really think about it, Democracy is a weird American thing that other countries copied ideas from. In the US, there's no proportional representation in parliamentary bodies, everything is all or nothing (except with Maine's electoral college votes). If one candidate gets 20% and eight others get 10% each, the 20% wins it all. Primaries are our (poor) solution to narrow the field to a small number of candidates.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I guess if you really think about it, Democracy is a weird American thing that other countries copied ideas from. It’s amazing what they got right and what’s still around despite clearly not being ideal Single Transferable Vote now
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System Metternich posted:
sample size: 5100 at a random college in new york communications majors interviewed: 2700 lmao
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Suspicious Dish posted:sample size: 5100 at a random college in new york
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Suspicious Dish posted:sample size: 5100 at a random college in new york You might wanna read that again, the study looked at ~8,700 tenured professors in 51 colleges all over the US, ~5,100 of whom were registered with either the Democrats or the GOP, and of those registered professors 108 taught communications Phlegmish posted:Yeah they only have five times as many Democrats tbf that study covers only those colleges the author deemed to be "elite" and full of the dreaded ~liberal slant~, I shudder to think what the engineering department in your random state university in Bumfuck, Alabama looks like
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System Metternich posted:tbf that study covers only those colleges the author deemed to be "elite" and full of the dreaded ~liberal slant~, I shudder to think what the engineering department in your random state university in Bumfuck, Alabama looks like
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Piell posted:The important thing to get from that graph is that Republicans are just dumb as poo poo Alternative model: People who are dumb as poo poo tend to be republicans
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Yeah, working class people really shouldn't have the right to vote.
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ultrafilter posted:Why does that one arrow go back? People going gently caress this and leaving science?
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Sulphagnist posted:And this all is why party registration is a rubbish metric because to have party registration you need to be engaged in politics enough to care about primary elections. I think most states require you to pick a party (or just go independent) at the time you register regardless of whether you intend to vote in a primary or not. It might be worth noting here that primaries are a relatively recent invention. Up until the 70s nominees were selected by convention delegates which gave party big shots a lot of control. After the 1968 Democratic convention turned into a giant shitshow states started instituting systems to popularly elect pledged delegates. As stupid as they can be they're actually a step forward.
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AKA Pseudonym posted:I think most states require you to pick a party (or just go independent) at the time you register regardless of whether you intend to vote in a primary or not. the Presidents thread has a bunch of interesting stories of the stories behind how many presidents got elected. Before the primary system, sometimes they'd literally get chosen because there were two popular candidates and candidate number 3 didn't have any enemies.
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