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Diqnol posted:I wholeheartedly disagree. Bill is willing to throw you away if you don't fit his mould hence all of the talent that has come to his door over the years that ended up going nowhere. If anything, I see this as a kiss of death for Gordon and that he won't be in the league next year which is a drat shame. Randaconda posted:Dangle a fourth, Tom.
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Sep 17, 2018 20:33
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I don't know enough about Gordon as a receiver. Is he a technically good route runner or does he freelance a little to get open a bunch? The Pats seem to need really technical guys with their system. Which you'd expect them not to go after Gordon if he wouldn't fit, but then again Belichick's receiver scouting has been...suspect, let's say, for a while.
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Sep 17, 2018 20:35
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Its not his choice. Do you believe that Gordon doesn't get a say if there were reports they were about to release him? Who am I kidding, of course he doesn't. gently caress.
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Sep 17, 2018 20:36
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Grittybeard posted:I don't know enough about Gordon as a receiver. Is he a technically good route runner or does he freelance a little to get open a bunch? He's 6'3 built like a loving Adonis and fast dude literally just needs to keep sober. There's a reason people drool all over him even after years of not playing him.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:He's 6'3 built like a loving Adonis and fast dude literally just needs to keep sober. There's a reason people drool all over him even after years of not playing him. No I mean I know he's really good in general if his head is right. Just that really good guys can be better or worse fits for certain teams, and the Pats seem to have a more particular type of receiver that they want than other teams. e: after actually thinking about it for a second I could be buying into a bunch of bullshit reporters have been fed by the Pats as an explanation for why their genius front office has whiffed on about everyone since Amendola. That's probably the best explanation. I'm sure if Petey were around he'd link me a long article written by one of those reporters explaining everything. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Sep 17, 2018 |
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Sep 17, 2018 20:40
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Amy Pole Her posted:What highlight package shows enough film to determine routes? idk what the route was supposed to be, I just saw a bunch of guys slowing down and the ball being delivered to where they would be if they kept going. looked like lazy receivers
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Sep 17, 2018 20:40
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Diqnol posted:Do you believe that Gordon doesn't get a say if there were reports they were about to release him?
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indigi posted:idk what the route was supposed to be, I just saw a bunch of guys slowing down and the ball being delivered to where they would be if they kept going. looked like lazy receivers Oh ok ok i was thinking holy poo poo are there ALL 22 highlight packages? I’d buy that
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Sep 17, 2018 20:42
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Amy Pole Her posted:Oh ok ok i was thinking holy poo poo are there ALL 22 highlight packages? I’d buy that I'd love an All 22 version of GamePass games
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Grittybeard posted:No I mean I know he's really good in general if his head is right. Just that really good guys can be better or worse fits for certain teams, and the Pats seem to have a more particular type of receiver that they want than other teams. How can one really know? From what you see on Hard Knocks and what you hear about him, he has no problem understanding the playbook. Here's a source: https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/Cris-Carter-believes-Josh-Gordon-top-ten-wide-receiver-120920366/ Patriots made the offense work with Moss because Bill is a smart dude and Tom can make the throws so it's not that they CAN'T use him. I believe that the biggest problem with signing with the Patriots is if you do not adhere to The Patriot Way, you might as well not come at all. Will Gordon do that? That's the question and from the surface the answer is yes but Bill has thrown away a lot of good guys over the years and I wonder if the league is asking the Pats to pick him up to get rid of him like they did Tebow and others before him.
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Grittybeard posted:No I mean I know he's really good in general if his head is right. Just that really good guys can be better or worse fits for certain teams, and the Pats seem to have a more particular type of receiver that they want than other teams. I may be reading the Pats completely wrong but they appear to lack a deep threat and that's Josh's specialty. Hell play him across the middle and let him go full Gronk on some DB.
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indigi posted:I'd love an All 22 version of GamePass games They do have all 22 but it doesn't have announcing and is separated by play. Occasionally I'll notice a play that I want to see that way but usually it's not worth the effort.
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Sep 17, 2018 20:48
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Ches Neckbeard posted:I may be reading the Pats completely wrong but they appear to lack a deep threat and that's Josh's specialty. Hell play him across the middle and let him go full Gronk on some DB. No, you're basically right. Cooks was their deep threat last year and they punted him immediately for... reasons? They've seen flashes from Philip Dorsett, but even Aaron friggin' Dobson had a random good game with Brady throwing to him so nobody can take that too seriously.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:He's 6'3 built like a loving Adonis and fast dude literally just needs to keep sober. There's a reason people drool all over him even after years of not playing him. What if beer is what makes him so fast
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sean10mm posted:No, you're basically right. Cooks was their deep threat last year and they punted him immediately for... reasons? They've seen flashes from Philip Dorsett, but even Aaron friggin' Dobson had a random good game with Brady throwing to him so nobody can take that too seriously. Speculating: assessed they didn't need him with Gronk and Edelman. Teams know the Patriots dink and dunk.
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Sep 17, 2018 20:49
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I also would like to posit that Bill O'Brien is the worst coach in the NFL
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Intruder posted:I also would like to posit that Bill O'Brien is the worst coach in the NFL 1-32-1
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Sep 17, 2018 20:51
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Would take Hue 10/10 times over Bill "That's not my job" O'Brien at this point
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Sean McDermott on starting Peterman posted:I thought that was the right move and I'll take that to my grave.
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Intruder posted:Would take Hue 10/10 times over Bill "That's not my job" O'Brien at this point bob might be the most loathsome coach in the NFL but objectively not the worst.
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Diqnol posted:Speculating: assessed they didn't need him with Gronk and Edelman. Teams know the Patriots dink and dunk. Cooks actually did a really good job making big plays for them, at least until he spazzed out in the Super Bowl and got himself blasted into next year. 
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BoB has had like exponentially more talent to win with than what the Browns have shoved out there the past few years
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sean10mm posted:No, you're basically right. Cooks was their deep threat last year and they punted him immediately for... reasons? They've seen flashes from Philip Dorsett, but even Aaron friggin' Dobson had a random good game with Brady throwing to him so nobody can take that too seriously. They couldn't pay him the extension this year and got their first round pick back from the Rams. Also here is a little more insight into why WR's have trouble in NE: https://www.boston.com/sports/extra-points/2014/09/02/what_makes_the_patriots_offense_so_difficult Apparently there are several routes built into each play call per receiver that change based not on the call itself, but the alignment of the defense. They use Erhart Perkins so they don't have long strings of calls, all that information is supposed to be internalized by the players who apparently line up in multiple positions. Gumbel2Gumbel fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Sep 17, 2018 |
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Hue has no expectations BOB's had more chances and more talent
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:They couldn't pay him the extension this year and got their first round pick back from the Rams. For some reason I thought they had another season of Cooks under his existing contract in 2018 before they'd have to come up with  in 2019 or let him go for nothing. But I might have just imagined that.
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sean10mm posted:For some reason I thought they had another season of Cooks under his existing contract in 2018 before they'd have to come up with No you're right, he was traded for a draft pick and then the rams went ahead and gave him a new contract even though they didn't have to
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Fitzpatrick is just channeling his inner Billy Volek.
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I mean if you're just taking short term gambles based on Brady being 100 years old, you keep Cooks in 2018 and don't worry about 2019. But then if you're doing a conservative long-term roster management thing, you let Cooks go... but you also probably don't even look at Gordon. Unless the Browns are letting him go super turbo cheap, at which point 
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Gordon to the Pats for a CONDITIONAL 5TH LOL https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1041783141822877697
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wandler20 posted:
lol they're playing the Steelers so even if he throws a couple picks he'll still have like 8 TDs and 500 yards.
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Don't take this from us.
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sean10mm posted:Gordon to the Pats for a CONDITIONAL 5TH LOL
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josh gordon is no longer cool
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Saw this on twitter earlier today and it's just perfect.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:fffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuck calm down Virgin Tom = old and busted Chad Bort = new hotness
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corn on the cop posted:josh gordon is no longer cool I mean he didn't have a say in the matter. Blame the rest of the 30 moron GMs.
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I know the high has to end at some point. But god drat am I loving this.
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