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Volguus
Mar 3, 2009
Rogers techs actively sabotage TPIAs whenever they can. For no reason other that they can. And they take (of course) the maximum amount of time to respond to issues that they contractually can. If they could (legally) poo poo in your mouth because you're using TPIA, they would.

Evis posted:

So are we supposed to tip or?

You're supposed to bend over and take it like a man.

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Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Sixfools posted:

Tech here, I can confirm call them to fix the IP, I've had a handful of trouble calls related to that for people on home business accounts. There may be other issues but try that if a faulty modem has been ruled out. Firmware fucks up ALL the time, what modem do you have? CGN3, CGN3ACR/AMF or a CODA? If it is a CGN3 (only says Rogers with no AC lettering on the front) get that piece of poo poo changed out ASAP for an ACR, if you happen to have a CGN2 (looks like a ladybug) get that changed out ASAP as they are pretty much obsolete and failing all over the place. Apple devices seem to gently caress up the most with our equipment from what I have seen in the field. Rogers rolls poo poo out like this all the time without telling the techs, do you really think they would tell customers?



Rogers only pays ~$9 for a TPIA install and no tech wants to do them when we get ~$18-30 for a Rogers internet only install.

We have the newer modem... it's a big white brick basically?

Looks to be a CODA from my google search.

As a followup for the LTE issues, I spoke to my IT guy earlier, and he setup a temp dynamic DDNS address and had me try that... worked instantly.

So basically when trying to connect to the IP address (from an ipv6 LTE phone) it fails, but when connecting to a named address workaddress.dyndns.org or whatever, same phone, it worked instantly.

Our internet comes into the rack and goes through a palo alto firewall, and everything is on a static IP from rogers... so would that issue still be possible given it's a static (ipv4) address?

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Volguus posted:

Rogers techs actively sabotage TPIAs whenever they can. For no reason other that they can. And they take (of course) the maximum amount of time to respond to issues that they contractually can. If they could (legally) poo poo in your mouth because you're using TPIA, they would.

They're mostly just contractors. I think you may be projecting a bit here.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

Sixfools posted:


Rogers only pays ~$9 for a TPIA install and no tech wants to do them when we get ~$18-30 for a Rogers internet only install.

That's hosed up. Now I feel like the cold Rootbeer I gave my last installer wasn't enough.

Volguus
Mar 3, 2009

infernal machines posted:

They're mostly just contractors. I think you may be projecting a bit here.

They are contractors who do everything in their power to pad their bottom line at the expense of ... whoever comes their way. They stand up for each other, they help each other and they give business to each other. That is, contractor #1 fucks up TPIA internet, contractor #2 comes a week later to unfuck TPIA internet. And now I find out they do that for $9. Crap like "but we're not all like that" is just bullshit.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
They are contractors who work through a larger company contracted by Rogers to do home installs. They do not give a gently caress who is providing your internet service. They get paid exactly the same whether it's Rogers or TPIA service they're installing.

They do a lovely job because they don't care, and because as you noted, they get paid poo poo and they have to do as many calls in a day as they can to make some decent money.

Volguus
Mar 3, 2009
If that would be all, it would be fine (not really, but whatever). When they went above and beyond the call of duty to leave me without internet for a week just so their friend made $9, well, gently caress them.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence

Volguus
Mar 3, 2009

teethgrinder posted:

What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence

True and that's a perfectly reasonable stance to have, albeit inconsequential. The incident happened last September and I wrote on this very thread about it. Evidence has been submitted to Start and Rogers at the appropriate time, not that any disciplinary action against those shitheads was expected. Before this, I was relatively ambivalent towards Rogers as a company. Yes, they're assholes, but meh. But their assholerly propagates to their contractors as well, and why not?, since Rogers has nothing to lose and everything to gain by making those little 3rd party customers' clients life a bit harder. So now, I can only hope to live long enough to see Rogers as a company dead and/or torn into pieces.
And this discussion only brought back the memories and my blood boils when i think about it.
Just remember folks:

quote:

When Rogers sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with them. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:
I always have this feeling that Rogers has the best indoctrination of the telcos, because you get this vibe from them that they really believe the company isn't just another piece of poo poo in a monopolistic price-fixing cartel.

EngineerJoe
Aug 8, 2004
-=whore=-



Mister Facetious posted:

I always have this feeling that Rogers has the best indoctrination of the telcos, because you get this vibe from them that they really believe the company isn't just another piece of poo poo in a monopolistic price-fixing cartel.

They probably just say "Hey, at least we're not Bell!"

Sixfools
Aug 27, 2005

You be the Moon,
I'll be the Earth
And when we burst
Start over, oh, darling
Techs don't cover for each other, if someone is there within 30 days it affects their target numbers significantly, and a dog eats dog attitude is what happens because of that. TPIAs we make sure the line is good and levels are in spec and that is it. We do not troubleshoot wifi or setup TPIA modems. If you got hosed by a tech doing a rushed activation its not because they are setting someone up to come back. If an inspector rolls on your call and finds so much as a loose connector or an old ground it is a $40 bill back to the technician. Rushing $9 dollars isn't worth $40 to good techs.

CiK is loving notorious for saying techs will set up their VOIP ANDROID WIFI poo poo to people who do not understand what is being sold to them.


Blue On Blue posted:

We have the newer modem... it's a big white brick basically?

Looks to be a CODA from my google search.
[b] yup[/yup]

Our internet comes into the rack and goes through a palo alto firewall, and everything is on a static IP from rogers... so would that issue still be possible given it's a static (ipv4) address?

maint could have done something in the area, someone would really need to come out an verify and look at some noise graphs. The CODA modem has 2 network cards (wireless and wired, it's stupid don't ask) and one or the other or both can go bad easily as well.

Sixfools fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Aug 13, 2018

Volguus
Mar 3, 2009
I got hosed by a tech disconnecting the cable at the box, and then taking a drat week for another tech to come and connect it back again. Petty, cheap and hosed up. All they had to do is nothing, don't loving touch it. Yet they did. Why were they messing with the box when all that happened was a cable being cut on the street, no idea, but they did.

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

Mister Facetious posted:

I always have this feeling that Rogers has the best indoctrination of the telcos, because you get this vibe from them that they really believe the company isn't just another piece of poo poo in a monopolistic price-fixing cartel.

The best is their vans going around with "The best is yet to come" written on the back, attributed to Rogers e. Scamwell or whatever the loving originators name is

e: gonna post this in here too, the Nvidia Shield is 25% off on newegg.ca right now, the cheapest I've ever seen it. Just ordered mine, finally

codo27 fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Aug 13, 2018

mewse
May 2, 2006

codo27 posted:

e: gonna post this in here too, the Nvidia Shield is 25% off on newegg.ca right now, the cheapest I've ever seen it. Just ordered mine, finally

Shield pro for $400CAD?

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

I went in between and got the one with the controller. 240 tax in compared to 279 before tax (15% in itself for me)

mewse
May 2, 2006

I don't see that one, maybe they sold out.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Well, I am not a telus lover but I'll give them props on their fiber. On 250/250 and getting 86/37 over that, which the surplus alone is more than 3x as fast as my previous DSL service.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


I just got shaw's 300mbit, Telus still doesn't offer anything over 50mbit here.



I've seen 45MB/s off steam. I'm so glad i don't have to wait 20 minutes for games to download anymore.

Also, considering the resources my moderately powerful computer uses in utilizing 300mbit, i really wonder if the average person would actually see the benefit at this point. If i don't pause Avast protections, it bumps up against the limits of a 7200rpm 4tb drive and 4.6ghz 2500k.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Powershift posted:

i really wonder if the average person would actually see the benefit at this point.
I think I agree with that. My disk activity (non SSD) seems to be the limiting factor on my steam installs too and browsing/streaming has no apparent difference versus my earlier 150 package.

Coxswain Balls
Jun 4, 2001

Until Shaw starts rolling out full-duplex DOCSIS 3.1 plans, I don't see much purpose is upgrading from the 150 plan unless you're in a household with lots of people streaming/downloading at the same time.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
I scheduled an upgrade to the 300Mbps because fuckit. It was $5 a mo more than 150. Also like how they have moved the plans to unlimited although they didn’t charge for overages anyway iirc.

Decided to stick with shaw over going teksavvy due to we wanted to keep tv and the shaw wifi is very useful. Often I find I get no cell service in rec facilities around here but the wifi is fine.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


priznat posted:

I scheduled an upgrade to the 300Mbps because fuckit. It was $5 a mo more than 150. Also like how they have moved the plans to unlimited although they didn’t charge for overages anyway iirc.

Decided to stick with shaw over going teksavvy due to we wanted to keep tv and the shaw wifi is very useful. Often I find I get no cell service in rec facilities around here but the wifi is fine.

We got it for $5 less than 150($105 vs $110), and got the cable package knocked back to peanuts at the same time. I think we're under $140 now for 300 + medium TV + 8 theme packs.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Powershift posted:

We got it for $5 less than 150($105 vs $110), and got the cable package knocked back to peanuts at the same time. I think we're under $140 now for 300 + medium TV + 8 theme packs.

Yeah that's the same one I got too. I was going to scrap the TV but my wife wanted to keep it so we get to upgrade our old PVR to their "bluesky" thing too.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

:allears: :wow:

Siochain
May 24, 2005

"can they get rid of any humans who are fans of shitheads like Kanye West, 50 Cent, or any other piece of crap "artist" who thinks they're all that?

And also get rid of anyone who has posted retarded shit on the internet."



I mean the worst part about that is that about 3/4 of my friends would kill to be able to get 7mbps and unlimited bandwidth. "Rural" areas have such poo poo options.

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

I live in a town of about 200 and we get 120/10 unlimited. And we could get up to a gigabit (but still 10 down). We'd be hosed though without Eastlink. Bell still only offering DSL @ 5-8mbps down tops if you're lucky.

Despite the fact that everyone has an internet enabled device in their pocket, no one understands anything about these speeds. They could advertise 500kbps and people would think its okay.

Siochain
May 24, 2005

"can they get rid of any humans who are fans of shitheads like Kanye West, 50 Cent, or any other piece of crap "artist" who thinks they're all that?

And also get rid of anyone who has posted retarded shit on the internet."


codo27 posted:

I live in a town of about 200 and we get 120/10 unlimited. And we could get up to a gigabit (but still 10 down). We'd be hosed though without Eastlink. Bell still only offering DSL @ 5-8mbps down tops if you're lucky.

Despite the fact that everyone has an internet enabled device in their pocket, no one understands anything about these speeds. They could advertise 500kbps and people would think its okay.

Eastlink here to, and same thing with alternative (Northern Tel, aka Bell). So shameful.

Jan
Feb 27, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

My reaction was "Well that's reasonable for unlimited compared to other Canadian offerings".

codo27 posted:

Despite the fact that everyone has an internet enabled device in their pocket, no one understands anything about these speeds. They could advertise 500kbps and people would think its okay.

I think people would understand 500kbps as "my youtubes won't load!"

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

Jan posted:

I think people would understand 500kbps as "my youtubes won't load!"

You overestimate people. Imagine being the lone qualified tech support guy for an entire rural region. You wouldn't believe how often I hear "I'm computer illiterate"

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

codo27 posted:

I live in a town of about 200 and we get 120/10 unlimited. And we could get up to a gigabit (but still 10 down). We'd be hosed though without Eastlink. Bell still only offering DSL @ 5-8mbps down tops if you're lucky.

What is the cost though? Eastlink charges through the nose for my parents in Port Burwell.

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

We pay 150 tax in with TV and home phone as well. For just internet it starts at 84.95 after the promotional period, which is what we'll be doing once our 2 year deal ends.
Its actually gone up to 91.95 a month. gently caress them right off.

codo27 fucked around with this message at 11:48 on Aug 29, 2018

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

Is anyone here on Virgin fiber? They have a deal for 50/10 for $30/mo for the first 12 months right now that seems preety good.

EngineerJoe
Aug 8, 2004
-=whore=-



Finally have ipv6 with Teksavvy on Rogers cable!

ChickenWing
Jul 22, 2010

:v:

Anyone have experience with Frontline? My condo board is considering putting them in and especially with the deal they're offering so that they can get a foothold, I'm super interested in switching off Bell.

Dallan Invictus
Oct 11, 2007

The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes, look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.
There was a ton of NCIX bankruptcy chat ITT a few months back so I feel like some of you might want to be aware of this Fun Fact* from their ongoing postmortem.

(*fact may not be as fun as advertised)

tl;dr: basically none of their data was stored encrypted, let alone wiped before the bankruptcy auction, including:

quote:

I further learned that he still possessed around 300 desktop computers from NCIX’s corporate offices and retails stores, 18 DELL Poweredge servers, as well as at least two Supermicro server’s running StarWind iSCSI Software that NCIX had used to back up their hard disks. In addition, there where also the 109 hard drives which had been removed from servers before auction and one large pallet of 400-500 used hard drives from various manufactures. Jeff believed these contained a combination of functional but decommissioned hard drives used by NCIX and customer data from machine’s that had been in for repair at the time of bankruptcy.

(...)

I mounted one image belonging to Steve Wu the founder of NCIX. Inside I found data going back 13 years, financial documents, employment letters containing SIN numbers, and data from Mr. Wu’s home computer which featured personal documents and images of his family mixed in with numerous private photos of high end escorts from mainland china.

(...)

The nciwww file contained 291 tables from their NCIX US store and had multiple versions of the file with data going back to 2007. The version I spent time analyzing was dated between November 2013 to February 2015. All the various versions of the MDF database files had been unencrypted with the last file being dated in 2017 for most of the databases. The nciwww database contained a thousand records from affiliates listing plain text passwords, addresses, names, and some financial data. In another table of information, I found customer service inquiries including messages and contact information. There were also three hundred eighty-five thousand names, serial numbers with dates of purchase, addresses, company names, email addresses, phone numbers, IP addresses and unsalted MD5 hashed passwords. The database also contained full credit card payment details in plain text for two hundred and fifty-eight thousand users between various tables.

(...)

I then opened one of the Canadian databases titled OrdersSql_Data, it contained many versions going back 15 years with the most recent dated in 2017. The version I opened contained three million, eight hundred forty-eight thousand records covering January 2007 through July 2010. Contents included names, company names, items purchased with serial numbers, addresses, phone numbers, and payment data.

Jan
Feb 27, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

Dallan Invictus posted:

There was a ton of NCIX bankruptcy chat ITT a few months back so I feel like some of you might want to be aware of this Fun Fact* from their ongoing postmortem.

(*fact may not be as fun as advertised)

tl;dr: basically none of their data was stored encrypted, let alone wiped before the bankruptcy auction, including:

Hey, at least they had off site backups! :ironicat:

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Christ what a loving gong show.

It is poo poo like that that makes me very hesitant to order from anyplace like canada computers or even Newegg. Hell, newegg had a pretty serious breach just recently!

At least with someone like amazon you’re pretty safe that they are not idiot basic bitches when it comes to data security.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
You should be fine on any website like that as long as you pay through Paypal correct?

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w00tmonger
Mar 9, 2011

F-F-FRIDAY NIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS

DariusLikewise posted:

You should be fine on any website like that as long as you pay through Paypal correct?

Well I mean, PayPal hasn't exactly been hacker free historically

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