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not caring here posted:Or that weird push up people do where they rock their body back and forth like they are sucking a horse dick You mean that’s not proper form???
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I like the change where I'll never have to hold some rear end in a top hat's feet ever again. Only downside is not getting to rip rear end in some joe's face.
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Sep 19, 2018 22:34
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man ive seen some poo poo kneeling down there
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Sep 19, 2018 22:58
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The only way you can "cheat" is moving your weight from one arm to the other in a faux yoga pose. gently caress that bend at the middle thing. Never saw anyone sag and come back to do a push up correctly. Also gently caress pushups.
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I don't wanna see a bunch old timers who are on their last years to be forced out because of this test, that is the main thing that bothers me.
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Sep 20, 2018 02:19
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But thats what they do in American businesses
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Sep 20, 2018 02:23
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Well, gently caress capitalism.
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Vahakyla posted:Well, gently caress capitalism. Shouldn't have left Finland.
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The guard and the reserves are going to take a massive beating, that's for certain. Or they wont, and they'll just figure out a way to keep them in God speed 40 year old Specialists out there.
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Some scores are gonna be fudged, guaranteed
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Nice and hot piss posted:The guard and the reserves are going to take a massive beating, that's for certain. Like the guard is going to implement this fully. psydude posted:Are there no alternate events or something? I knew people who genuinely couldn't run anymore due to shrapnel and poo poo in their legs but who weren't medically retired for whatever reason. No alternative events. No profiles. Let the butthurt flow.
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Sep 20, 2018 02:47
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The Guard would spend an entire MUTA 6 on one APFT.
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EBB posted:The Guard would spend an entire MUTA 6 on one APFT. We already spend an entire MUTA 6 on IWQ and people barely qualify, why should this be any different?
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Sep 20, 2018 03:33
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lmao buncha soft bodies in this thread
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:lmao buncha soft bodies in this thread Not after the ACFT comes out! *everyone will be chaptered out/in surgery*
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White Chocolate posted:Like the guard is going to implement this fully. Gonna be a lot of CSMs bitching.
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Implementing this plan as it exists on paper right now is the absolute worst idea. Which is precisely why the Army is going to implement it, and then wonder for years what went wrong.
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Vasudus posted:Implementing this plan as it exists on paper right now is the absolute worst idea. Which is precisely why the Army is going to implement it, and then wonder for years what went wrong. At least we’ll get rid of those malingering CSMs on profile.
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Sep 20, 2018 13:35
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White Chocolate posted:No alternative events. No profiles. Let the butthurt flow. "Yet." They're testing this thing out over the next year. It's either going to be completely scrapped, or there will be alternate/profile stuff allowed. I get that we're all super hard charging tough guys up into our 60's, but some of the actual technically proficient people that we've got to have are stumpy broke guys. Unless we just make them all civilian contractors *writes down in green notebook*
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While I could see them make adjustments for profiles and/or add alternate events, I'll eat my hat if this gets scrapped entirely. The last time we went through this around 2012 or so (the one with five events that included the rower and the long jump), the whole thing got canned because "fitness experts from the Department of Physical Education at U.S. Military Academy, the U.S. Army Medical Research and Development Command, and California State University-Fullerton" recommended that there were better exercises we could do to measure how effective Soldiers would do in combat. So, the Army did a "Baseline Soldier Physical Readiness Requirements Study," used that data to develop the ACRT, and put the big Army stamp of approval on it, which they never did with the last one. At this point I feel like there are too many gears in motion and eval narratives on the line to stop it. Better to just get ready for it if you're still in or keep peepin butts and gettin high if you're not.
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Sep 20, 2018 14:14
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Retardog posted:Better to just get ready for it if you're still in I've been heaving 10 pound medicine balls off the roof of my office for weeks now.  Boy, if the Mongols ever attack our walls I'll be ready.
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I'm currently working at a two star strategic Army command which is basically Fort "Are you too broke to deploy or about to retire and want to set up your consulting gig?". There's gonna be a lot of empty desks soon.
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Sep 20, 2018 15:00
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Draining the swamp!
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Sep 20, 2018 15:06
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Who'd have thought in the time where being proficient in a technical/analytical field would be surpassed by people who are strong and run fast.
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Sep 20, 2018 15:18
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The SFL TAP portal is down, the green weenie strikes again. This is gonna be great when I redeploy and have three months to clear.
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Triggs posted:The SFL TAP portal is down, the green weenie strikes again. lol you're having an experience so army that the only thing that could make it more army is if you're forced to take the new PT test and get chaptered because you fail
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The new PT test seems like a pretty good measurement of someone's fitness, which is great, that's what a test is meant to do. But el to the loving oh el at the idea of the Army: - teaching people how to SAFELY trap bar deadlift - changing the fitness/PT culture so that everything involved in that series of movements now has training priority - telling people with profiles to get hosed Maybe I'm just being pessimistic and this is the first step in a long overdue shift to actual combat readinessahahahahaahaha
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Guys, you're forgetting the potential for serious butthurt when women out deadlift men. Portect are male troops
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not caring here posted:Guys, you're forgetting the potential for serious butthurt when women out deadlift men. I'm waiting for the leg up to become a 5 second hang.
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When I become a leader of America's finest fighting forces, I expect nothing but 5% body fat soldiers, 90+ PFT scores on all events and attending at least two marathons a year.
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Nice and hot piss posted:When I become a leader of America's finest fighting forces, I expect nothing but 5% body fat soldiers, 90+ PFT scores on all events and attending at least two marathons a year. I've been doing this all wrong. I just want my shop to make sure everyone get's paid. General: "Uhhh spacetoaster, why have your usual slides been replaced with photos of sweaty people and color coded PT numbers?" Spacetoaster: *chugging energy drink* "Shut the gently caress up.......SIR! Look at these run times! LOOK at them!! Things are gonna be" *gunshot rings out* CSM: *holstering pistol* "I'll have a replacement in your office by the end of the day."
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:lol you're having an experience so army that the only thing that could make it more army is if you're forced to take the new PT test and get chaptered because you fail My ID expired. There's an outage for the ID system. I can't get in the armory because they took my CAC. I can't turn in my gear because I can't sign my clothing record, because they took my CAC. My ID expired. The way is shut.
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Thank you for your (eternal) service
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Write an article for duffel blog
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Soldiers in support companies have got to be the most god awful, incompetent soldiers in the Army. I'm not even a trained logistician and I have to double check to make sure they do poo poo right. They have 5 loggie officers and like 7 E7 and above. I have no idea how they consistently gently caress everything up.
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Mustang posted:Soldiers in support companies have got to be the most god awful, incompetent soldiers in the Army. Here's the secret: they get paid the same regardless of whether they do what they're supposed to or not. Once you realize that a lot of little things will make sense.
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Mustang posted:Soldiers in support companies have got to be the most god awful, incompetent soldiers in the Army. Are you fixing their mistakes? Do they have to fix their mistakes? Do they suffer any sort of negative consequences at all for anything they gently caress up? Betting I know the answers to those questions.
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Mustang posted:Soldiers in support companies have got to be the most god awful, incompetent soldiers in the Army. By god you’re starting to sound like a major now! Meanwhile, the loggie officers are immensely frustrated that some rando maneuver dude showed up and flipped out for no discernible and certainly no important reason.
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Mustang posted:Soldiers in support companies have got to be the most god awful, incompetent soldiers in the Army. Only 5-10% of the guys in a support unit know their job. Usually, those guys spent time with a "real" unit. The rest are just stealing oxygen and collecting a pay check.
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ASAPI posted:Only 5-10% of the guys in a support unit know their job. Usually, those guys spent time with a "real" unit. The rest are just stealing oxygen and collecting a pay check.  Because all that matters is the perspective of some line unit dudes who have never seen how the Army works above the battalion or brigade level. Everything just magically happens for them.
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