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Cassie Cage is a cool design the likes of which you're hard-pressed to find anywhere else.
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Reiley posted:MKX has legit good female fighting game char designs, many of them actually wear pants. I was and still am actually pretty happy about this too, it's almost astounding how far NRS came on lady design in only a handful of games, they even made Sonya who up to this point was lookin pretty gross look badass, Cassie has a real good design, Jacqui could do with like something to make her a little more standout but also has a good design, Kitana's still got some "sultry ninja" outfit goin on but it's a huge step up from anything else she's had, Mileena got a cool design, just drat man, MKX was a crazy turn-around in a very good direction. Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Sep 27, 2018 |
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Sep 27, 2018 00:18
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Reiley posted:Tune into your favorite fighting game and ask yourself, how many women in this game actually wear real pairs of pants with good, practical footwear? If you're not a KOF player, the answer may surprise you.
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Sep 27, 2018 00:19
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Reiley posted:Cassie Cage is a cool design the likes of which you're hard-pressed to find anywhere else. Isn't she just a cop
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Sep 27, 2018 00:21
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In Training posted:Isn't she just a cop She's also a really big shithead.
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Sep 27, 2018 00:22
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Well I'm just gonna get out ahead of this and say MK as a series is criminally fugly and I will never care about the games so I can't really argue in good faith anyway. I play 45 minutes of MKX bc it came out the same day I got my new fightstick and I just bought everything I could for the system and I was astounded at how it had worse animation than the SNES games I played 20 years prior.
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Sep 27, 2018 00:23
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Sonya Blade is weird because before they went 3D, she generally had a good design. She got pants, she wore a top and generally her story wasn't centered around Johnny Cage making bad passes at her constantly and the player switching between beating up Johnny Cage to prove she's a strong woman and then playing as Johnny Cage to white knight her against Kano.In Training posted:Everybody in UNIST and melty blood are just wearing hoodie + jeans or are dressed for school which may be a skirt which seems fine Skirts are fine people wear skirts. In Training posted:Isn't she just a cop She's wearing one of those tactical catsuits with the harnesses and pouches everywhere.
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Sep 27, 2018 00:27
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Cassie will always be a fave because this is spectacular: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QGvwvvxUys
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Sep 27, 2018 00:28
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Reiley posted:MKX has legit good female fighting game char designs, many of them actually wear pants. Most of them are also boring as sin excepting like Cassie
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Sep 27, 2018 00:29
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i dont see anything wrong with fantasy clothing being completely impractical. i dont need realism in my fg to enjoy it and will continue to support guilty gear designs with 15+ belts per character
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Sep 27, 2018 00:30
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the animations in the mortal kombat/dc games are terrible. superman looks like hes trying to get a shirt with twisted sleeves off when he punches
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Sep 27, 2018 00:31
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Also v. good improvements on their women aside, MKX gave me Takeda and I'm gonna bitch at Ed Boon on twitter forever if they don't bring my man back for MKXI or MK11 whichever. Captain Baal posted:Most of them are also boring as sin excepting like Cassie :disagreed:
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Sep 27, 2018 00:31
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Zand posted:i dont see anything wrong with fantasy clothing being completely impractical. i dont need realism in my fg to enjoy it and will continue to support guilty gear designs with 15+ belts per character like rachel is an unrealistic design because good lord those platforms but shes a great design. morrigan's a good design because shes sexy but shes a freaking succubus. dizzy is kind of a bad design because the weird leather outfit doesnt really suit her.
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Sep 27, 2018 00:32
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Endorph posted:also yeah its weird that people focus on 'realism' when it comes to criticizing female character designs and not 'this character was clearly made to be sexy in a way that is too exaggerated to be appealing and doesnt fit her personality' I'm sorry if it came across that 'realism' was the goal, because you're absolutely right. There was the conversation earlier about how Mai from KoF is a pretty great character and she's got a ninja loincloth thing going on as well. One of the things I think MK really falls on it's face with is that out of the six characters that I've seen in MK9's story mode (7, maybe? Not sure if the bandage clone was specifically Mileena or not) three (four) of them are the exact same design. Even the male ninjas at this point all have unique design points to them that go beyond having darker skin / having her mouth (normally hidden) full of spiky teeth / the lighter skin one. A lot of DoA characters are gross in the same way where they all share the same body model and face which is just creepy, but even in that game there's some good designs and costume choices. Guilty Gear is pretty good all around. Samurai Showdown too is pretty good in general.
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Endorph posted:also yeah its weird that people focus on 'realism' when it comes to criticizing female character designs and not 'this character was clearly made to be sexy in a way that is too exaggerated to be appealing and doesnt fit her personality' It's funny how even the game kinda admits that Dizzy's outfit doesn't make much sense for her by having her appear wearing literally anything else in cutscenes.
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Sep 27, 2018 00:49
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Yardbomb posted:Also v. good improvements on their women aside, MKX gave me Takeda and I'm gonna bitch at Ed Boon on twitter forever if they don't bring my man back for MKXI or MK11 whichever. Ya, Takeda was good poo poo.
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Sep 27, 2018 01:53
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All the female faces in DOA look like 95% the same its creepy.
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Sep 27, 2018 02:11
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In Training posted:Everybody in UNIST and melty blood are just wearing hoodie + jeans or are dressed for school which may be a skirt which seems fine I want a bartender gordeau alt outfit
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Sep 27, 2018 04:01
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I've always liked Arcueid's design, just a turtleneck sweater and long skirt.
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Sep 27, 2018 04:07
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Natural 20 posted:Cassie will always be a fave because this is spectacular: Plus her ending is just her killing the most hated character in the series. I mean, I guess Shujinko is more hated than Mokap.
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Sep 27, 2018 04:12
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chumbler posted:I've always liked Arcueid's design, just a turtleneck sweater and long skirt. It's good
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Sep 27, 2018 04:13
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Potsticker posted:Sonya Blade is weird because before they went 3D, she generally had a good design. She got pants, she wore a top and generally her story wasn't centered around Johnny Cage making bad passes at her constantly and the player switching between beating up Johnny Cage to prove she's a strong woman and then playing as Johnny Cage to white knight her against Kano. All of the female MK costumes got way worse as the series went on because in MK1 through Ultimate a human had to be able to both wear the outfit and actually perform the poses and some of the moves. MKX was a massive improvement on that across the board. I think I was the one who made the Mai Shiranui effort post someone brought up, but yeah whenever I have a problem with a female character's outfit it's not because I think unrealistic/skimpy clothing = bad it's because the look doesn't match the rest of how the character rolls. That's why King of Fighters and Samurai Shodown are untouchable with regard to their character designs. There's quite a few characters from both that I hate, but every single one of them is on point.
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Sep 27, 2018 04:27
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Melty Blood has top tier casualwear representants and the sole example, as far as I'm aware, of DICK CLEAVAGE.
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Dias posted:Melty Blood has top tier casualwear representants and the sole example, as far as I'm aware, of DICK CLEAVAGE. Do Oro's dangly bits count or is that just full on dick
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Neo Rasa posted:All of the female MK costumes got way worse as the series went on because in MK1 through Ultimate a human had to be able to both wear the outfit and actually perform the poses and some of the moves. MKX was a massive improvement on that across the board. This is a really good point. And I think it applies not just to the female costumes, too. Maybe it's nostalgia goggles talking, but I do think the BMX armor robots look better than their later designs. It also made them pretty visually distinctive as compared to generic robots in any other media. chumbler posted:I've always liked Arcueid's design, just a turtleneck sweater and long skirt. It's a great design for sure.
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CharlestonJew posted:Do Oro's dangly bits count or is that just full on dick That's just dick.
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Sep 27, 2018 05:06
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Endorph posted:the animations in the mortal kombat/dc games are terrible. superman looks like hes trying to get a shirt with twisted sleeves off when he punches It gets worse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QL_lO8CUtw
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Sep 27, 2018 05:07
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That dude's droning voice over things that I don't think I ever noticed or really cared about in normal gameplay is killing me. Like the dude's griping they don't use any of the after-image stuff to sell an effect on one thing, then gripes the very next bit about a move that is using the after-image stuff to sell an effect.
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Sep 27, 2018 05:43
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I don't know about specifics but he's right that it looks like poo poo
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Sep 27, 2018 05:56
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Those punches that Atom does where he swings his arms at like torso level have to be some of the worst poo poo I've ever seen conveyed in a fighter
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The first time I saw Atom's crouch "animation" I laughed for about 10 minutes straight.
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Sep 27, 2018 06:04
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Is the Atom crouch animation where he shrinks?
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Sep 27, 2018 06:04
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Shiki Dan posted:It gets worse: Lmfao. i have never seen this character before this incredible
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mycot posted:It's funny how even the game kinda admits that Dizzy's outfit doesn't make much sense for her by having her appear wearing literally anything else in cutscenes. Here's my take on why dizzy dresses like that Who had the most interaction with dizzy as she was growing up and probably taught her how to dress testament But now dizzy hangs out with ky all the time and has ladies in waiting and stuff so she gets dressed by palace staff Smoking Crow fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Sep 27, 2018 |
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Sep 27, 2018 06:51
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Yardbomb posted:That dude's droning voice over things that I don't think I ever noticed or really cared about in normal gameplay is killing me. he's right though
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CharlestonJew posted:Do Oro's dangly bits count or is that just full on dick hello you called <--
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Sep 27, 2018 07:58
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Shiki Dan posted:It gets worse: check around 3:24 in that video for a special surprise
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CharlestonJew posted:check around 3:24 in that video for a special surprise Endorph posted:the animations in the mortal kombat/dc games are terrible. superman looks like hes trying to get a shirt with twisted sleeves off when he punches The best thing about the Injustice 2 animation is that it's still waaaaaaaay better than Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe. They just, like, mapped Scorpion's Deadly Alliance-era idle and pre/post-fight stance stuff to a Batman character model and it was like, what? But going by 3D MK games and Injustice 2 I guess it would make sense that combining MK and DC together would give you the worst animations ever. Potsticker posted:This is a really good point. And I think it applies not just to the female costumes, too. Maybe it's nostalgia goggles talking, but I do think the BMX armor robots look better than their later designs. It also made them pretty visually distinctive as compared to generic robots in any other media. I don't think it is just nostalgia. I mean MK has its roots in Enter the Dragon, Big Trouble in Little China, and a billion Godfrey Ho movies, so the ultra low budget secret ninja society look is dead on perfect.  But I liked that we got to see human Cyrax and Sektor and that their names as humans are still Cyrax and Sektor.
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Sep 27, 2018 14:06
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NRS fixed the faces when people really got at them about those so my hope is they'll finally fire the 60yo dude in the mocap suit and update their animation for whatever's coming next. They broke their usual two-year cycle, maybe that's why.
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:NRS fixed the faces when people really got at them about those so my hope is they'll finally fire the 60yo dude in the mocap suit and update their animation for whatever's coming next. They broke their usual two-year cycle, maybe that's why. yeah as much as I liked MKX/IJ2, the fact that a majority of the animations don't make sense is off-putting. Way too many characters who punch as though they are reaching over a fence. There's no movement or torque on their actions so many combos look weird as gently caress if the character isn't floating/flying. Atom's "duck animation" though is loving hilarious and I'm glad they made that decision.
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