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I'm rewatching Terminator 1 yet again and the new thing I love this time is all the small ironies (There's probably a better word for this?). When Arnold is killing Sarah's roommate and the answering machine message is playing, and it ends with like "this is just a machine, but machines need love too" just as he's brutally killing these innocent people. Then in the night club as Arnold is massacring people with the Uzi the name of the club "Tech Noir" flashes on a sign behind him. And when he's searching for Sarah and Reese in a stolen cop car and he finds them and brings up his shotgun, the camera pans across "To care and to protect" on the side of his car. I love this poo poo
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Were there any really obvious Terminator rip-offs in the late 80s? The only one that occurs to me off the top of my head is Warlock, which is a kind of reverse Terminator that's a fantasy instead of science-fiction.
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Sep 29, 2018 23:24
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There's a youtube channel I follow called Innuendo Studios that does great film, video game and pop culture analysis but has like 1/100th the followers of Nerdwriter or his other contemporaries. Anyway he just put out a whole video series on female action movie archetypes and how Mad Max: Fury Road rejects them. As if you needed any other reason to know why Fury Road is one of the greatest action movies ever made. It's an eight part series of 6-11 minute videos and I'm linking the prologue here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmR8A1a8shk
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Sep 30, 2018 00:19
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Wheat Loaf posted:Were there any really obvious Terminator rip-offs in the late 80s? The only one that occurs to me off the top of my head is Warlock, which is a kind of reverse Terminator that's a fantasy instead of science-fiction. R.O.T.O.R
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Sep 30, 2018 00:57
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Wheat Loaf posted:Were there any really obvious Terminator rip-offs in the late 80s? The only one that occurs to me off the top of my head is Warlock, which is a kind of reverse Terminator that's a fantasy instead of science-fiction. Nemesis.
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Sep 30, 2018 01:27
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Wheat Loaf posted:Were there any really obvious Terminator rip-offs in the late 80s? The only one that occurs to me off the top of my head is Warlock, which is a kind of reverse Terminator that's a fantasy instead of science-fiction. Abraxas.
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Sep 30, 2018 01:38
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There were a zillion Terminator ripoffs, but if you mean movies that flat out imitated the plot...well, Shocking Dark is a beat for beat imitation of Aliens that turns into an imitation of Terminator at the end, and Robowar is Predator but with a robot. For loose ripoffs there's a ton...Cyborg, Cyborg Cop, Cyber Chaser, Alien Chaser, Shadowchaser...
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Sep 30, 2018 03:28
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Also Phobe: The Xenophobic Experiments, which rules.
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Sep 30, 2018 03:33
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Timby posted:R.O.T.O.R Hey, I watch Comet too. Crash and Burn is the worst Terminator ripoff because it bills itself as a Robot Jox ripoff instead but that part only happens at the very end 
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Sep 30, 2018 06:22
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Crash and Burn is my poo poo. Love that movie. edit: Jason Goes To Hell is kinda a Terminator movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYzF1DhKEiQ The D in Detroit fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Sep 30, 2018 |
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Sep 30, 2018 17:40
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Surprised nobody has mentioned the most obvious zero-budget Terminator ripoff Future War.
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Sep 30, 2018 20:53
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exquisite tea posted:Surprised nobody has mentioned the most obvious zero-budget Terminator ripoff Future War. Daniel Bernhardt, the only man who sounds more like Jean Claude Van Damme than Van Damme does.
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Oct 1, 2018 06:34
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I've always fancied Hardware being set in Terminator's future-universe. Or even Salvation's.
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Oct 1, 2018 14:34
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Of course, the beauty of exploitation film is that it's a melange of whatever's popular. So by the end of the 80s you had movies with cyborgs and mutants and psychics, doing "The Most Dangerous Game" in a Mad Max setting.
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Halloween Jack posted:Of course, the beauty of exploitation film is that it's a melange of whatever's popular. So by the end of the 80s you had movies with cyborgs and mutants and psychics, doing "The Most Dangerous Game" in a Mad Max setting. I would watch that, if they had a decent budget. I love Mad Max cars and chase-battles. Bring on the spikes!
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Oct 1, 2018 20:42
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GoodyTwoShoes posted:I would watch that, quote:if they had a decent budget. But seriously, the ones I can actually recommend are 2019: After the Fall of New York, Hardware, and Nemesis.
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Halloween Jack posted:Of course, the beauty of exploitation film is that it's a melange of whatever's popular. So by the end of the 80s you had movies with cyborgs and mutants and psychics, doing "The Most Dangerous Game" in a Mad Max setting. Oh is this where I get to bring up No Escape with Ray Liotta again? It’s The Great Escape! But with 100% more cannibals!
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Fart City posted:Oh is this where I get to bring up No Escape with Ray Liotta again? It’s The Great Escape! But with 100% more cannibals! Extremely underrated movie. I think it would've been reevaluated by now if it weren't so oddly unavailable. It was a regular presence on HBO for like a whole decade. I watched The Debt Collector over the weekend and it was excellent. Just as good as Accident Man imo.
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Oct 1, 2018 21:24
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CYBORG 2: GLASS SHADOW with Jack Palance! Just look at this:
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lmao imagine trying to explain to Jack Palance that he’s playing a cyborg. 50/50 chance that conversation somehow ends in a fistfight.
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Amazon's descriptions of things are super vague/don't effectively differentiate between versions of a movie. So this movie City on Fire, is any particular version here significantly better or worse than the other? The other two On Fire flicks from Ringo Lam had a ton of different releases with various degrees of stuff cut out of them. https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_te_2?rh=i%3Advd&pa=B000B4NWPU&field-availability=-1&suppress-ve=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1538443811&lo=dvd I have a VCR and have no problem getting one of those VHS versions if it comes down to that, but I do want something with English subtitles if possible (or a dub if that's a thing I guess).
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Neo Rasa posted:Amazon's descriptions of things are super vague/don't effectively differentiate between versions of a movie. So this movie City on Fire, is any particular version here significantly better or worse than the other? The other two On Fire flicks from Ringo Lam had a ton of different releases with various degrees of stuff cut out of them. Just get the Hong Kong blu-ray. It's region A and has English subs. I wouldn't buy from Amazon though, I usually use dddhouse for imports or maybe check ebay.
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FancyMike posted:Just get the Hong Kong blu-ray. It's region A and has English subs. I wouldn't buy from Amazon though, I usually use dddhouse for imports or maybe check ebay. Thank you! 
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I know it's not really an action movie, but I finally watched Unforgiven. Probably my second favorite Clint movie after Josey Wales. And, holy crap, he basically has the most cinematic face in all of filmdom.
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Josey Wales doesn't hold a bison tallow lantern to Unforgiven. Why do you like it so much?
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Oct 18, 2018 20:00
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Unforgiven is fuckin PERFECT, that's a fantastic movie about violence despite not having much in it by the standards of the flicks we talk about in this thread
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Josey Wales doesn't hold a bison tallow lantern to Unforgiven. Why do you like it so much?
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Neo Rasa posted:Unforgiven is fuckin PERFECT, that's a fantastic movie about violence despite not having much in it by the standards of the flicks we talk about in this thread Such a big part of what makes it work is that you don't have to see Munny commit much violence, because it's Clint Eastwood. You can just cast your mind back to all those guys he gunned down in other movies and just apply that to Munny, he's basically that same guy. I love the Hollywood factoid that Eastwood sat on the script for like 10 years because he thought he wasn't quite old enough for it yet.
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Oct 18, 2018 20:19
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I like Two Mules for Sister Sara.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I like Two Mules for Sister Sara. Its great fun with some stakes and is a bit revisionist, i dig it too. The final fight in Unforgiven is so good because it's so quick, very anticlimactic
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got any sevens posted:Its great fun with some stakes and is a bit revisionist, i dig it too. It's also very well set up by something Munny tells the kid earlier about how the one who draws fastest isn't always the one left the standing. The one who can stay cool and make each shot count usually wins, and that's exactly what happens.
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I think Hackman is the mvp of the movie in a lot of ways. Probably one of the top "Best Supporting Actor" performances of the 90s, along with Tommy Lee Jones in Fugitive and (sigh) Spacey in Usual Suspects.
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Gene Hackman is an incredible loving talent and I recommend watching everything he ever did.
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It's too bad he passed on the proposed French Connection III, in which Popeye Doyle was going to be back in New York and teaming up with a fast-talking black detective played by Richard Pryor.  If you've not seen David Mamet's Heist (there are loads of movies called "Heist" so make sure you get the right one) then I heartily recommend it. Great show from Danny DeVito as the villain as well. It makes an enjoyable triple-feature with The Score (starring Robert De Niro, Edward Norton and Brando in his last ever movie performance) and Confidence with a number of actors you recognise even though I only remember Rachel Weisz.
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Oct 18, 2018 23:21
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A great way to appreciate Hackman is to watch Unforgiven and The Quick and the Dead back to back. It's like the same exact role just much less subtle and he dials up all the right areas to account for that.
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Oct 18, 2018 23:25
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I've still never seen Mississippi Burning.
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Basebf555 posted:A great way to appreciate Hackman is to watch Unforgiven and The Quick and the Dead back to back. It's like the same exact role just much less subtle and he dials up all the right areas to account for that. Yeah pretty much, also Hackman literally picks that movie up (the Quick and the Dead) and carries it around like a bawling toddler. "are you nervous, Cort? I am. It takes a LOT to get me nervous. I relish the sensation."
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It's very entertaining, thought it's inaccurate to the point of being insulting, particularly in how it whitewashes the FBI and depicts them as heroes.
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Oct 18, 2018 23:29
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There was way less ball squeezing in real life.
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Wheat Loaf posted:If you've not seen David Mamet's Heist (there are loads of movies called "Heist" so make sure you get the right one) then I heartily recommend it. Great show from Danny DeVito as the villain as well. It makes an enjoyable triple-feature with
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