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JHomer722
Jul 30, 2006

And you, you ridiculous people, you expect me to help you.

Who is the best grappler Khabib has fought?

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Lloyd Boner
Oct 11, 2009

Yes officer, my name is Victoria Sonnen...berg

JHomer722 posted:

Who is the best grappler Khabib has fought?

Probably RDA. Maybe Tibau at the time?

Street Horrrsing
Mar 24, 2010

Godwalker of The Grateful Prisoner



Conor's going to fight nate again or crush a can to get some steam back then they're going to get some gold around his waist by opening a 165 division and have him fight gsp to see who'll become the first triple champ.

Or they can strip khabib and ban wrestling

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.

JaySB posted:

Irish take on the fight: "Khabib would have lost if he stood up and fought like a man instead of rolling around on the ground"

gently caress, it's so simple and elegant

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

Street Horrrsing posted:

Conor's going to fight nate again or crush a can to get some steam back then they're going to get some gold around his waist by opening a 165 division and have him fight gsp to see who'll become the first triple champ.

Or they can strip khabib and ban wrestling

Conor makes way too much money to be fighting a can. He's not fighting anybody not named Khabib next.

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


yeah but if he gets completely dominated again (there wasn't even really a bit of back and forth) he will start to lose his drawing power.

You could see Conor - Diaz for a potential 165 championship with GSP a year after that? Then a Khabib rematch if Khabib is still 155 champ. But I don't know, he needs to take his MMA career seriously again if he wants to hang with the top of the division.

Dr. Abysmal
Feb 17, 2010

We're all doomed
From a sporting standpoint there's really no reason to give Conor a rematch, it was a comprehensive victory for Khabib. It's not like the Diaz fight where you've got stuff like it was short notice, at welterweight, Conor was winning until he got tired, etc. "He did a flying WWE stomp to one of my friends after dominating and submitting me" isn't really the same. But then you're in the situation where it costs so much money to get Conor to fight that every time he does it has to be a blockbuster title fight PPV main event to make it worth the investment. So you can't go and do Conor vs. Beneil Dariush at UFC Fight Night: Gdansk or something.

Constellation I
Apr 3, 2005
I'm a sucker, a little fucker.
Can't wait for Tony to regain the belt from this thin-skinned whiny big baby

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



Conor has too much money to take MMA seriously at this point. I think he bought into his own hype train full steam and now that steam is starting to run out. He should just take his $100mm and go home. He's 30 years old has taken minimal damage, has a pretty solid legacy that he can only ruin if he continues in the sport, and he has a new baby.

Shadow225
Jan 2, 2007




UFC November: My Brawls Was Hot

Stealth Tiger
Nov 14, 2009

I think Conor's going to get a real challenge next, it doesn't seem to be the UFC's thing to feed cans to established fighters. Like, having Ronda fight Nunes her first fight back after the Holm fight was an awful decision when they could have given her a gimme fight or two for easy paydays.

Also, I used to think I was so clever for understanding the aspect of "playing the heel" in fight sports and that I was so smart for getting Chael Sonnen's gimmick. So it's weird that I am so satisfied seeing Kabib just say "you insulted me, so I stomped you and then attacked your poo poo head buddy." Its so simple and beautiful and elegant.

Dogbrisket
Jun 10, 2009

Shadow225 posted:

UFC November: My Brawls Was Hot

loving Solid, A+

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Chris James 2 posted:

Beat Diaz once, lost to Diaz once, lost to Floyd, lost to Khabib

Goddamn, I didn't think the boxing match could ever count against Conor for his casual fan drawing power.

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

Stealth Tiger posted:

I think Conor's going to get a real challenge next

After someone beats the poo poo out of you while talking poo poo from the top, taps you out, spits on you then tries to kill your friend in front of millions I think Conor's real challenge right now is looking at himself in a mirror lol

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

Dr. Abysmal posted:

From a sporting standpoint there's really no reason to give Conor a rematch, it was a comprehensive victory for Khabib. It's not like the Diaz fight where you've got stuff like it was short notice, at welterweight, Conor was winning until he got tired, etc. "He did a flying WWE stomp to one of my friends after dominating and submitting me" isn't really the same. But then you're in the situation where it costs so much money to get Conor to fight that every time he does it has to be a blockbuster title fight PPV main event to make it worth the investment. So you can't go and do Conor vs. Beneil Dariush at UFC Fight Night: Gdansk or something.

Conor absolutely does not deserve a rematch based off a pure sporting standpoint, but this is not a sport and the second fight will draw larger than the first based off of the post fight antics and all WME cares about is $$

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008
Khabib should fight Ferguson, Connor should fight Diaz and than the loser of Khabib Ferguson and than title shot. Including the fight that just happened that's 4 fights off his 5(6?) Fight contract leaving room for title defense if he beats khabib (lol)

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

Conor needs to spark someone that the UFC can market to the casuals as a big threat and he will immediately go back up to being some god-tier fighter.

Gay Horney
Feb 10, 2013

by Reene
It's just kind of incredible to think about. Conor paid hundreds of thousands of dollars and flew in the top people to train against that specifically. He was betting his reputation that he could stop that and he was just completely unable to do it.

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008
Connor needs to hire Ben Askren or something

Shammypants
May 25, 2004

Let me tell you about true luxury.

Let’s be honest here, no one was hurt in the main event; it was an endurance challenge where two guys frotage’d their way into a paycheck.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Gay Horney posted:

It's just kind of incredible to think about. Conor paid hundreds of thousands of dollars and flew in the top people to train against that specifically. He was betting his reputation that he could stop that and he was just completely unable to do it.

Let's say he had hurt Khabib in the 2nd and actually rocked him in the 3rd -- then people would have doubled down on saying that Conor had a puncher's chance. I guess I could even be fine with a rematch if Khabib had gotten significantly hurt at some point. But instead of dusting himself off and getting a KO like against Chad, Conor was just too beat.

I don't think it's surprising that he couldn't close up the gap in grappling over one training camp, nor should it be weird that he hired people to even attempt that.

Cyber Dog
Feb 22, 2008

Just a reminder that Tony Ferguson did this, just to show Pettis

https://twitter.com/streetfitebanch/status/1049017346080354306

mewse
May 2, 2006

Dr. Abysmal posted:

From a sporting standpoint there's really no reason to give Conor a rematch, it was a comprehensive victory for Khabib. It's not like the Diaz fight where you've got stuff like it was short notice, at welterweight, Conor was winning until he got tired, etc. "He did a flying WWE stomp to one of my friends after dominating and submitting me" isn't really the same. But then you're in the situation where it costs so much money to get Conor to fight that every time he does it has to be a blockbuster title fight PPV main event to make it worth the investment. So you can't go and do Conor vs. Beneil Dariush at UFC Fight Night: Gdansk or something.

Yeah there's no reason for a rematch except $$$ but we've all seen the decisions the UFC has been making recently

piratepilates
Mar 28, 2004

So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it.



if you're conor, do you take the rematch? would you be confident enough that you could beat him a second time around? would it be worth it to you for the payout, the potential second beating, and having to deal with khabib's whole eagle mma following?

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.

Cyber Dog posted:

Just a reminder that Tony Ferguson did this, just to show Pettis

https://twitter.com/streetfitebanch/status/1049017346080354306

god I love that weird motherfucker

during the fight my wife asked me "what is wrong with that Ferguson guy?" very concernedly and I didn't have a good answer

Wild Horses
Oct 31, 2012

There's really no meaning in making beetles fight.
ferguson crying after the fight was kinda sweet. he is a fight autist in a good way

Gay Horney
Feb 10, 2013

by Reene

kimbo305 posted:

Let's say he had hurt Khabib in the 2nd and actually rocked him in the 3rd -- then people would have doubled down on saying that Conor had a puncher's chance. I guess I could even be fine with a rematch if Khabib had gotten significantly hurt at some point. But instead of dusting himself off and getting a KO like against Chad, Conor was just too beat.

I don't think it's surprising that he couldn't close up the gap in grappling over one training camp, nor should it be weird that he hired people to even attempt that.

It's just wild to me that there is an insane mountain man who can spike everyone in the world on their head like a football.
No amount of training or touch of God in your gloves or former championships or mental warfare or flagrantly breaking the rules several times a round were enough to make any part of it look close.

We've seen Conor lose but we have never seen him look ordinary.

Constellation I
Apr 3, 2005
I'm a sucker, a little fucker.

Soothing Vapors posted:

"what is wrong with that Ferguson guy?" very concernedly and I didn't have a good answer

vainman
Nov 2, 2012

I find your lack of faith... disturbing
That was the kind of loss that sends Conor back to boxing, holy poo poo.

And Khabib's striking is weird but his timing is really, really good. His jab is really weird but he catches people when they're stepping or turning and that overhand is wild

The Automator
Jan 16, 2009

Cyber Dog posted:

Just a reminder that Tony Ferguson did this, just to show Pettis

https://twitter.com/streetfitebanch/status/1049017346080354306

he did it twice

it was so cool

The Automator
Jan 16, 2009


what battle does he think he won? he had the ever loving poo poo beaten out of him and then his teammate got jumped, literally his entire corner was made to look like fools

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


YOLOsubmarine posted:

That’s leaving out Alvarez and Aldo for some reason? Those were both big PPV events.

I just assumed the only reason it was in that format (1-3) was Shaun was talking about Conor's last 4 big PPV events/fights in general, not that he only had 4 big PPV events at all

blue footed boobie
Sep 14, 2012


UEFA SUPREMACY

The Automator posted:



what battle does he think he won? he had the ever loving poo poo beaten out of him and then his teammate got jumped, literally his entire corner was made to look like fools

Either his brain is rattled or he has heard that Khabib is going to be suspended for more than a year.

E: or both

Cyber Dog
Feb 22, 2008

The Automator posted:



what battle does he think he won? he had the ever loving poo poo beaten out of him and then his teammate got jumped, literally his entire corner was made to look like fools

the whiskey promotion batttle

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
fight aldo or diaz you loving bum

thechalkoutline
Jul 8, 2006



Soothing Vapors posted:

god I love that weird motherfucker

during the fight my wife asked me "what is wrong with that Ferguson guy?" very concernedly and I didn't have a good answer

This was one of SO's first MMA events (so what an intro at that), more I stopped following 5 years ago after following for 10+ years

She was particularly drawn to Ferguson and it was the only fight she wanted to rewatch the next day
'
I was like what in the world is wrong with you, of all the fighters smh

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

blue footed boobie posted:

Either his brain is rattled or he has heard that Khabib is going to be suspended for more than a year.

E: or both
Or he just dgaf about losing and getting right back into The Mac Life.

threeagainstfour
Jun 27, 2005


I think he's saying they won the scuffle after the match is all.

Which if you're McGregor and you want to distract people from you getting comprehensively beat, that's probably the only play to make.

threeagainstfour fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Oct 8, 2018

CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

by Reene
Honestly a Conor Aldo rematch would be dope, that fight deserves to be longer than 8 seconds. Dunno if Conor thinks it's a money fight, but it makes sense given where both of them are at right now. Has Aldo ever talked about if he's sticking out his career at featherweight? I feel like people have been saying he's gonna move up to lightweight for like the last 7 years but here we are.

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Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007



Proper No. Twelve was on camera for almost the entire first round in every camera angle but this is my favorite

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