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Family Guy was making Polanski jokes in its first season which might have help the public catch on a bit.
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# ? Sep 30, 2018 04:53 |
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Rhyno posted:Family Guy was making Polanski jokes in its first season which might have help the public catch on a bit. They made jokes about Spacey as well, didn't they? I think in this season coming they're doing a #MeToo-themed episode where Quagmire gets taken to task. Who knows how that will turn out.
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# ? Sep 30, 2018 13:33 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:I think in this season coming they're doing a #MeToo-themed episode where Quagmire gets taken to task. Who knows how that will turn out. It's a South Park crossover
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# ? Sep 30, 2018 13:40 |
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Krankenstyle posted:It's a South Park crossover Seriously?
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# ? Sep 30, 2018 13:44 |
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Family Guy not being afraid to be in horrible taste has led it in some odd directions.
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# ? Sep 30, 2018 14:55 |
Wheat Loaf posted:Who knows how that will turn out. Badly.
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# ? Sep 30, 2018 15:00 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:Seriously? lol i have no idea but wouldn't it just be that though?
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# ? Sep 30, 2018 15:01 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:They made jokes about Spacey as well, didn't they? Also Bill Cosby.
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# ? Oct 1, 2018 15:31 |
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And probably Weinstein as well, I shouldn't wonder.
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# ? Oct 1, 2018 17:10 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:And probably Weinstein as well, I shouldn't wonder. I don't think Family guy did, but MacFarlane definitely did before the whole Weinstein thing blew up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XKzDRz5C90
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# ? Oct 1, 2018 17:21 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:AFAIK, European feminist movements in general can be a bit guarded vis-a-vis the American feminist movement, because the latter effectively rewrites history. Not purposefully, it's just that the internet has given the American feminist movement as much cultural power as American pop culture - and thus young feminists in Europe are taught a history of feminism that's just downright false within their own context. Basically leading the younger generation to lash out at their older compatriots for poo poo they had no part in at all.* Obviously none of that actually justifies defending this poo poo, it's more a thing to keep in mind if you get mystified by the stuff coming out of non-American movements in general. Would you mind explaining what you’re referring to
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# ? Oct 2, 2018 04:06 |
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:it's a bit more complex than that. France doesn't extradite to the US, period, because they're not okay with the US having the death penalty. Polanski's charges are in the US, so their response to the idea of extraditing him has been "gently caress no, abolish the death penalty you assholes." It's a much more arduous process than a lot of other places, but France does have an extradition treaty with us. What they won't do is extradite a French citizen, and Polanski is one of those. Death penalty shouldn't enter into it since it's not a capital case. Also, people in general seem more sympathetic to Polanski because of his personal history as a concentration camp survivor then losing Sharon Tate and their unborn child the way they did. My dad has refused to watch Woody Allen films for decades now, but Chinatown is one of his favorite movies of all time.
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# ? Oct 2, 2018 07:41 |
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It would be a lot easier to separate art from the artist in these cases if the artists had actually paid the consequences for the hosed up poo poo they did.
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# ? Oct 2, 2018 13:59 |
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Separate the art from the artist by way of guillotine imho.
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# ? Oct 2, 2018 14:19 |
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PT6A posted:It would be a lot easier to separate art from the artist in these cases if the artists had actually paid the consequences for the hosed up poo poo they did. Good point. Closure allows for compartmentalization and reflection. With people like Polanski, who continue to go unpunished, their crimes are still effectively in progress. That makes it far harder to be objective about purchasing or even renting access to their work, as in some degree it contributes to the perpetuation of that crime.
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# ? Oct 2, 2018 14:43 |
Does Polanski even get any money from someone watching Chinatown any more?
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# ? Oct 2, 2018 16:04 |
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No, I stopped mailing him five bucks every time I pop my DVD in.
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# ? Oct 2, 2018 16:08 |
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chitoryu12 posted:Does Polanski even get any money from someone watching Chinatown any more? I would assume that he gains royalties in perpetuity, but I admit I’m not an authority on how that works. But he would definitely likely get a percentage of box office grosses for anything new. Like what’s the deal with stuff produced by the Weinstein Co? Production companies usually return their investment on the backend, so I’d have to think he’d still be making money off of home video or rentals. If anybody has insight on how that works, feel free to educate.
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# ? Oct 2, 2018 16:33 |
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Fart City posted:Good point. Closure allows for compartmentalization and reflection. With people like Polanski, who continue to go unpunished, their crimes are still effectively in progress. That makes it far harder to be objective about purchasing or even renting access to their work, as in some degree it contributes to the perpetuation of that crime. For me it's not even about punishment, Roman Polanski really doesn't believe he did anything "wrong". If he made a mistake and admitted as much, admitted he'd done wrong, I'd still think he's a piece of poo poo rapist but at least he'd be a little more human. To taunt reporters, insult the judge or whatever ("They're just jealous"), and then flee to a country without extradition just makes him into an irredeemable fuckhead.
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# ? Oct 2, 2018 16:50 |
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King Vidiot posted:For me it's not even about punishment, Roman Polanski really doesn't believe he did anything "wrong". If he made a mistake and admitted as much, admitted he'd done wrong, I'd still think he's a piece of poo poo rapist but at least he'd be a little more human. To taunt reporters, insult the judge or whatever ("They're just jealous"), and then flee to a country without extradition just makes him into an irredeemable fuckhead. And he hasn't gotten any better over time, he's just become a nasty little poo poo. Unrepentant child rapist.
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# ? Oct 2, 2018 16:56 |
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I hear he plans to shoot a Julian Assange movie starring himself as Julian Assange (Julian Assange will cameo playing Roman Polanski).
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# ? Oct 2, 2018 17:00 |
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https://twitter.com/studentactivism/status/1047159946440265729?s=21 I feel like it would be easier if they just didn't let him on stage there anymore
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aware of dog posted:https://twitter.com/studentactivism/status/1047159946440265729?s=21 I'd wager there's more people who want to see him perform than those who don't.
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# ? Oct 2, 2018 17:37 |
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That Louis CK is a real class act, giving you free food and beer just by appearing in public as a giant creeper making rape jokes.
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# ? Oct 2, 2018 17:40 |
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Fart City posted:Good point. Closure allows for compartmentalization and reflection. With people like Polanski, who continue to go unpunished, their crimes are still effectively in progress. That makes it far harder to be objective about purchasing or even renting access to their work, as in some degree it contributes to the perpetuation of that crime. Crimes aside, Polanksi's ability to avoid the reach of U.S. officials 40+ years later and counting is pretty gangster.
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# ? Oct 3, 2018 21:06 |
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King Vidiot posted:For me it's not even about punishment, Roman Polanski really doesn't believe he did anything "wrong". If he made a mistake and admitted as much, admitted he'd done wrong, I'd still think he's a piece of poo poo rapist but at least he'd be a little more human. To taunt reporters, insult the judge or whatever ("They're just jealous"), and then flee to a country without extradition just makes him into an irredeemable fuckhead. Yeah I mean someone can make their documentaries and talk all they want about how he was railroaded by an over-zealous judge all they want, but watch his interviews afterwards and he treats what he did with nothing more than a shrug and insists that it was the "European way". He's an utter piece of poo poo.
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# ? Oct 3, 2018 21:40 |
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Slutitution posted:Crimes aside, Polanksi's ability to avoid the reach of U.S. officials 40+ years later and counting is pretty gangster. https://twitter.com/dril/status/831805955402776576
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# ? Oct 3, 2018 21:41 |
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Successfully avoiding the authorities - American authorities, in particular - is a separate talent altogether.
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# ? Oct 3, 2018 22:24 |
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Slutitution posted:Crimes aside, Polanksi's ability to avoid the reach of U.S. officials 40+ years later and counting is pretty gangster. Step one- move to france Step two- don’t go to a country with extradition to USA Results obtained- not gangster
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# ? Oct 3, 2018 22:56 |
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DrVenkman posted:Yeah I mean someone can make their documentaries and talk all they want about how he was railroaded by an over-zealous judge all they want, but watch his interviews afterwards and he treats what he did with nothing more than a shrug and insists that it was the "European way". He's an utter piece of poo poo. Yeah, whoo boy, that judge, how dare he want a sleazy guy who drugged a girl barely in her teens and raped her locked up and poo poo. The loving nerve. gently caress Polanski apologists.
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# ? Oct 3, 2018 23:45 |
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French law has some astounding blind spots that give great benefits to sexual predators. Like the whole no legal age of consent thing and not searching for missing adults. It's no wonder Polaski's doing just lovely.
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# ? Oct 4, 2018 01:58 |
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Vagabundo posted:Yeah, whoo boy, that judge, how dare he want a sleazy guy who drugged a girl barely in her teens and raped her locked up and poo poo. The loving nerve. The odd thing is that the victim seems to have forgiven Polanski, but still holds a massive grudge against the judge involved in the case. https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/65gqla/iama_samantha_geimer_the_victim_in_the_1977_roman/
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# ? Oct 4, 2018 04:22 |
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DeimosRising posted:Would you mind explaining what you’re referring to Anyway, this liberal American approach unsurprisingly failed to serve the needs of a lot of women, so feminism in the US eventually evolved into a more intersectional direction as a result - with a lot of criticism directed at the previous waves. Which is entirely fair, but clearly you shouldn't just take those criticisms and direct them at a movement with an entirely different history. Like, there's probably still a lot of useful lessons from the modern American movements, but it probably doesn't make much sense to critique a socialist feminist movement for not caring about working class women. A Buttery Pastry fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Oct 6, 2018 |
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chitoryu12 posted:Does Polanski even get any money from someone watching Chinatown any more? I sincerely doubt watching Chinatown on Netflix will benefit him in any way.
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sponges posted:I sincerely doubt watching Chinatown on Netflix will benefit him in any way. Yeah, it feels like avoiding classic films in the name of purity has kinda gotten to be one of those things that makes you feel good while doing absolutely nothing to affect anyone else.
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# ? Oct 6, 2018 22:15 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:The basic issue is that (Continental) European feminism comes from a different tradition than American feminism, due to the very different societies from which they first spawned. American feminism has traditionally been liberal in nature, focusing on issues that are/were important to upper-middle-class white women while ignoring the perspectives of working class or non-white women. A lot of European movements on the other hand have been directly worker-focused since their inception around the start of the 19th century - though conversely, some took an explicitly anti-socialist tack as a reaction. These worker-focused European movements have probably also been more structural in their critique, given their socialist bent. see you know im euro too and im all for banding together to gently caress the man. The problem is that american versions of european philosophy — while they have more flavour &c — are so incredibly frutless. Look at their labour movement like wtf?!
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# ? Oct 7, 2018 00:07 |
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https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1049395277466079232?s=21
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# ? Oct 8, 2018 21:48 |
https://jezebel.com/busy-philipps-has-been-talking-for-years-about-the-time-1829605876 He's got a bunch of sexual misconduct claims against him separate from this, but Philipps has previously said she and Franco settled everything after this.
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# ? Oct 8, 2018 22:12 |
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chitoryu12 posted:https://jezebel.com/busy-philipps-has-been-talking-for-years-about-the-time-1829605876 It also stands to note that the assault was a physical attack and not a sexual thing like the rest. Not that it makes it better, obviously.
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Franco was at NYU when I was an undergrad there (2010ish) and everyone I know who crossed paths with him described him as a legendary rear end in a top hat.
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