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Who What Now posted:According to the SRD, going from Indifferent to Fanatic is a DC90 skill check. That's not even all that hard to meet by 20th level. Taking someone from Hostile to Fanatic is a DC 150, harder but still not impossible. Classtoise posted:I will fight anyone who tries to tell me the Jumplomancer is not the greatest gimmick build. Keep your Pun-Puns and Infinite Stats. I have had to leave Court to go to another room to hide the giggles I got when I re-read these lines.
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oobey posted:The next couple of strips are kind of a downer, though. Especially the one where Haley leaves her dad behind. The final two panels, yikes. "You raised me well" in orange is just heartbreaking and hits way too close to home.
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I also reread that a few ago and that cut real deep. Stupid comics making me feel my own feels
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Facebook Aunt posted:What druid subclass is this? Well, if it's a Rogue/Druid then it's spells can't be very strong
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Oct 11, 2018 20:46
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Facebook Aunt posted:What druid subclass is this?
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Shapeshift gone awry.
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Dr Pepper posted:I'm trying and failing to parse this man's proportions. That's your brain protecting you from things you shouldn't comprehend.
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Telling someone I had no interest in D&D anymore turned into an edition argument  Why RPG players gotta be that way?
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I have no memory of making these posts, but I'm proud of them. Who What Now fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Oct 12, 2018 |
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Rapidly approaching page 1000. Should we start looking at a new thread?
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This thread is 11 years old, my rear end you start a new one hell, I was pissed when they changed the thread title from its original one this year
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Nah. If there's any thread that should be over a decade long, it's this one.
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my dad posted:Nah. If there's any thread that should be over a decade long, it's this one.
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Len posted:Telling someone I had no interest in D&D anymore turned into an edition argument I hope your disinterest in D&D has sparked an interest in the wealth of TRPGs out there that are different from D&D. There's a lot of good stuff out there and it kills me that so many people are D&D or nothing. There are games suited to different formats better (voice, text, large table, few dice, many dice) and games that do well as one-shots or short format, or games that just play with narrative structure in various ways. d20 did a great thing at bringing so many more people to the hobby, but now that they're here they seem so afraid to dip their toes into the wealth of material available that it can be honestly frustrating.
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I'm clearly not as good at 3.x as I thought, where exactly by level 20 are you getting 70+ ranks in your skills to hit DC20 checks?
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Pope Guilty posted:I'm clearly not as good at 3.x as I thought, where exactly by level 20 are you getting 70+ ranks in your skills to hit DC20 checks? Start as a Half-Orc Barbarian with 20 Str (+5), take 10 levels in Barbarian, 10 in Exemplar Increase strength every 4 levels (Up to 25, still just +7) Get someone to cast Enlarge Person and Permanency, giving you another permanent +2 Strength. (27, +8) Read a +5 Manual of Gainful Exercise, boosting you to a permanent 32 (+11) Wear a +6 Belt of Giant's Strength (38, +14) Turn on your Rage, get a +4 to Strength for the duration (42, +16) +16 from Strength +23 from Jump ranks +2 from Skill Synergy (Tumble) +2 from Acrobatic (feat) +3 from Skill Focus (Jump) (feat) +4 from Run (feat) if you get a running start. +10 from an Improved Ring of Jumping, this gives a higher Competence bonus than Boots of Striding and Springing. +10 from the Jump spell, which is a level 1 spell, so it not being permanent isn't a huge issue, just drink a potion or read a scroll. That's +70 right there, and that's not even anything particularly rare or outside of what you'd normally expect. Assuming you can take 10 on the check, you can casually jump 20 feet into the air. Edit: And as an added bonus, you now probably have a to-hit bonus in the low 40s (before Power Attack). girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Oct 12, 2018 |
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PMush Perfect posted:Using only the SRD... Let's assume you're trying to max out Strength, and using Jump, because that's the one I can think of a few extra ways to boost. Lol throw in an item familiar for an extra +30 note: i have never heard of gm allowing item familiars, they're blatantly broken
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The thing that always makes me skeptical of these builds though, especially some of the wizard builds, is how to survive or have the campaign last long enough to get to that point starting at level 1.
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Raenir Salazar posted:The thing that always makes me skeptical of these builds though, especially some of the wizard builds, is how to survive or have the campaign last long enough to get to that point starting at level 1. girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Oct 12, 2018 |
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Raenir Salazar posted:The thing that always makes me skeptical of these builds though, especially some of the wizard builds, is how to survive or have the campaign last long enough to get to that point starting at level 1. The joke answer is Sleep, the real answer is drat near any campaign is going to start with the characters at level 3 at the least, because level 1 play in 3rd edition is just as miserable for everyone else as it is for the wizard.
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Say, what's the front-runner theory on what happened when the psion telepathically entered the rift? Was her brain destroyed? Did the rift close? I had totally forgotten the strange artwork on the rift when she blanked out. And we haven't seen her or it since, right? I read all the material from the fall of Azure City to the start of the Northern Lands segment and enjoyed myself. Many things, particularly Therkla's side story, were tolerable or even enjoyable when I didn't have to wait months between entries. However you can put me on record that Roy's Ghost was an awful idea. Every single strip where he wasn't in the heavens he was cluttering up an already wordy comic (and typically making the panel art too busy). That poo poo in Greysky City was the *worst*. Absolutely no one can hear the  and Roy's barfing out so they serve zero plot purpose. Really clumsy stuff and the one thing I found tedious on re-reading.
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Looking back at that arc, man there's some interesting bits. "The Linear Guild is practically synonymous with taking disproportionate revenge over quasi-imagined slights!" Like Father, like Son
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SuperKlaus posted:Say, what's the front-runner theory on what happened when the psion telepathically entered the rift? Was her brain destroyed? Did the rift close? I had totally forgotten the strange artwork on the rift when she blanked out. And we haven't seen her or it since, right? I think it’s supposed to be taken at face value. Laurin is alive and well, as is the rift. Miron pulled her away from it and the Snarl only managed to strike some faceless Shvitzer guards. She was stunned because she went from sensing no life in the rift to sensing an incomprehensible Lovecraftian horror. The strip mirrored the crayon story of Soon’s wife finding a dormant-seeming rift and fiddling with it right up until it lashed out and destroyed her, right after Roy had been wondering if anything Shojo told them was true.
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Potsticker posted:I hope your disinterest in D&D has sparked an interest in the wealth of TRPGs out there that are different from D&D. There's a lot of good stuff out there and it kills me that so many people are D&D or nothing. There are games suited to different formats better (voice, text, large table, few dice, many dice) and games that do well as one-shots or short format, or games that just play with narrative structure in various ways. d20 did a great thing at bringing so many more people to the hobby, but now that they're here they seem so afraid to dip their toes into the wealth of material available that it can be honestly frustrating. It has. There are so many not- D&D options for games but I've had no luck swaying anyone to actually play something different. "But I don't want to buy any books" "I have legal PDFs" "But I don't want to learn a new system" "so play how I play DND and just ask questions constantly" Fuckers just want what's comfortable like being in an abusive relationship.
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PMush Perfect posted:[Twenty Levels to be Good at Jumping] You seem to be saying that it's a bad thing that the game allows this at 20th level, but all I'm seeing is a rad folklore character like Paul Bunyan. Do you not want to see Paul Bunyan make a lich his bitch?!
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Getting to a ludicrous skill bonus at 20th level is nothing. At that level, your peers have access to Wish and Miracle! "Getting people to do things for you" is an unremarkable feat. The real trick is to be a bard with the right combination of items, feats and spells and have completely game-breaking Diplomacy and Bluff bonuses by, say, level 6.
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Android Blues posted:Getting to a ludicrous skill bonus at 20th level is nothing. At that level, your peers have access to Wish and Miracle! "Getting people to do things for you" is an unremarkable feat. But you can get your peers to use Wish and Miracle for your benefit just by jumping really good.
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Can you use your impressive jumping powers to convince the genie to not be a dick with the wish?
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nimby posted:But you can get your peers to use Wish and Miracle for your benefit just by jumping really good. Yeah. Also casting Wish costs XP. Do you know how I got to be Level 20? It wasn't by casting spells that cost XP. It was by Jumping. Like this. (Proceeds to jump so high, he jumps out of this thread and lands in the Newspaper Spider-man thread.)
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Len posted:"But I don't want to buy any books" "I have legal PDFs"   It's very frustrating, for sure. Nerds can be such idiots. Try something new and you might have actual fun?? You'll learn new controls when you play a new video game, right? On top of that a lot of this stuff is easier to learn.
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Those loving nerds pretending to have fun with a system I no longer like!  I like pathfinder, warts and all. I will play another system if someone else dms.
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My experiences with Pathfinder were too similar to my experiences with 3.X, it's fine between levels 3 to 7 and then devolves into Rocket Tag. I greatly enjoyed the short times I had with 5E, besides some lovely sessions.
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World Famous W posted:Those loving nerds pretending to have fun with a system I no longer like! That's the thing I'm willing to learn a system and run it. If it's one shots I'll even pregen characters so we can skip that timesink but I know the bad kinds of people that just refuse to play anything other than 3e
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World Famous W posted:Those loving nerds pretending to have fun with a system I no longer like! gently caress off lol. People can absolutely have fun with whatever they like. That's not the issue. The issue is refusing to play anything else.
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Potsticker posted:gently caress off lol. It's ok for people to not play anything else.
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Who What Now posted:It's ok for people to not play anything else. Somewhere out there is a guy who listens to nothing but Linkin Park's In The End on repeat.
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My experience with the "we don't want to try anything new" mentality actually happened during 3.5, with the online group I was part of not ever wanting to let me try out any of the new stuff from things like Tome of Magic or Tome of Battle. Usually, it was just a matter of "I don't own the book, so I'm not comfortable with letting you run something from it, even if I trust you not to bring stupidly overpowered stuff to the game," and that's a fair attitude to have. But there was also this one guy who's basic attitude to incorporating anything new was "I don't want to have to memorize a whole new spell list just for you to play a character," and I'm like... why would you even memorize the whole spell list to begin with? What's wrong with me just giving you a list of the specific spells/powers/whatever I've picked for my character and just ignoring the rest? It was just always a major buzzkill to get a new book, get excited about new options, and then being told, "No, because  ".
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Because, all together now, What The Players Can Do The Enemies Can Do, and if Bob the Tome Wizard can learn a spell then by god that spell is necessarily part of the repertoire of 1d100% of the world's wizards at large and the DM has to figure out if a branch of economy can be built around its regular use. In what kind of realistic world has only one single person ever learnt a particular spell! That kind of poo poo is seriously one of my exclusion criteria for RPGs these days. PC abilities are PC abilities and enemies can have whatever is appropriate for them? Sweet, we're gonna be badass heroes fighting weird creatures. Spells are the building blocks of the world, rules are physics and enemy stat blocks regularly refer me to the wizard spell list? That DM is gonna make me track how much lamp oil I have left. And no it's not a coincidence that that's pretty much the 3.5/4E split.
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PMush Perfect posted:Somewhere out there is a guy who listens to nothing but Linkin Park's In The End on repeat. Please stop doxxing me
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