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Toalpaz posted:I have my reasons, but there is no reason for Gaspy to assume that you're 3rd party and not scum. Even as making a joke. There was one kill last night, and no other killers as far as we know. This is a real stretch buddy.
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The only person who merk actually pushed against was asf
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Oct 14, 2018 06:04
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CapitalistPig posted:This is a real stretch buddy. I don't think so.
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Oct 14, 2018 06:04
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Toalpaz, can I get you to ponder something? If scum didn't do the kill, why would gaspy me, some who he disaccosites as scum, consider the one to do the kill?
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Oct 14, 2018 06:09
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Toalpaz posted:I don't think so. *hint* You might want to think through this as a lens as someone who has played fft *hint*
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Oct 14, 2018 06:13
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imgay posted:Toalpaz, can I get you to ponder something? If scum didn't do the kill, why would gaspy me, some who he disaccosites as scum, consider the one to do the kill? It was a reference to FF wasn't it? You would enact vengeance for getting Gaspy lunched? It was a reference to a lunch, and the context doesn't involve scum or 3rd party at all. Gaspy said it by accident because Gaspy is burdened with scum knowledge. Gaspy referenced something only scum would know at this point, if there was a 3rd party kill last night rather than scum just a scum kill. Normal town would have never phrased it like that.
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Oct 14, 2018 06:18
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imgay posted:If AS was town why the hell would you claim then. Toalpaz posted:I have my reasons, but there is no reason for Gaspy to assume that you're 3rd party and not scum. Even as making a joke. There was one kill last night, and no other killers as far as we know. i thought your reasons for claiming was that jimmy said he got a scum result on you, you claimed vt, he said actually i'm a gunsmith and know you have a killing role, and then you claimed cop and that you copped me also re: the gaspy thing, i'm not convinced he'd make that kind of slip but not ruling it out imgay posted:The only person who merk actually pushed against was asf merk also pushed toalpaz at the end. i wish he wasn't dead
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Oct 14, 2018 06:22
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Could we not talk about ongoing games please?
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Oct 14, 2018 06:32
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Lol you clowns. I said 3P because if imgay was scum there’s zero chance his scum team would let him pick the NK. Good to see scum falling over themselves to look halfway thoughtful, though.
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Oct 14, 2018 07:03
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Asphyxious posted:Lol you clowns. I said 3P because if imgay was scum there’s zero chance his scum team would let him pick the NK. lol okay. With that statement in I'll fully claim cause I'm going to sleep and want to stop thinking about this. I'm Town Joat Xander Harris. My one shots are Cop, Vig, Bulletproof, and Hide. Last night I copped AS and got a town result. My bulletproof was also used, so I was the target of a nightkill. I didn't use my vig, so there's probably a SK in the game. Only Scum and the SK would have also known about the possibility of a 3rd party kill beyond just Merk. And only scum would suggest leap to a 3rd party explanation over scum kill in that situation, because I was probably the target of scum kill, not merk. Okay, all my cards are on the table, I don't care about dying now because I've confirmed a townie, eaten a NK, and hopefully will trade with a scum peaceee.
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Oct 14, 2018 07:23
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Nah 100% scum joat
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Oct 14, 2018 07:31
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Also looking at “who was Merk suspicious of” is amateur hour bullshit. Only the most timorous of scum use that as their selection for the NK, it’s actually usually either a) what WON’T path back to them or b) who supported them, so that a town’s town choices are weighed more heavily. So Toalpaz is like thrice confirmed scum at this point.
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Oct 14, 2018 07:35
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I'm good with a Toal vote, that was a good gambit Jimmy, also textbook enough to be entirely believable for a first game. ##vote toalpaz
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Oct 14, 2018 07:39
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Lol AS as if I was being serious.
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Oct 14, 2018 08:14
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hambeet posted:Lol AS as if I was being serious. ?
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Oct 14, 2018 08:36
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It legit is one of the suggested strategies if you look it up though? It totally makes sense as a thing for Jimmy yo do.
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Oct 14, 2018 08:38
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oh i was responding to atomic soda from earlier.
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Oct 14, 2018 08:53
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Atomic Soda posted:yeah i'd like an explanation from dancer for his vote switch at last minute yesterday. I thought things through and decided there's some universes in which ecco isn't scum. Toalpaz on also looked scummy. I decided that I'd prefer a Toalpaz lynch. And, I emphasized the I would continue being there until the deadline, which I was, and I moved to the vote leader when it was getting close. My vote made no difference. And, I dunno, it's almost like I explained all of this when I actually made the vote yesterday, and demanding the same explanation again are trying to distract from someone else. You want to get angry at someone for causing the no-lynch, look at CPig who was actually there for deadline and "lol nope" (and possibly also some others). Like, I obviously managed to reach a point where I had some semblance of trust in ecco, but this person, who has had basically zero communication with her, on day 1 of this here mafia game, has decided purely on meta that "yeah that's a gambit and she's town" and caused a no-lynch. Ecco was at -1 when the day ended, he could've single-handedly changed the outcome but he's really good at mafia you guys so a no-lynch is better because he says so.
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Oct 14, 2018 08:55
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Dancer posted:You want to get angry at someone for causing the no-lynch, look at CPig who was actually there for deadline and "lol nope" (and possibly also some others). Like, I obviously managed to reach a point where I had some semblance of trust in ecco, but this person, who has had basically zero communication with her, on day 1 of this here mafia game, has decided purely on meta that "yeah that's a gambit and she's town" and caused a no-lynch. Ecco was at -1 when the day ended, he could've single-handedly changed the outcome but he's really good at mafia you guys so a no-lynch is better because he says so. Number 1 - I never said anywhere that I was good at mafia. Number 2 - ecco was at -2, it only looks like -1 because willie voted after deadline had passed. So that kinda shatters that "Cpig singlehandedly caused a no lynch" theory.
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Oct 14, 2018 12:39
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1) Willie voted at 4:00, you don't know if that counts as before or after deadline. 2) Willie made it clear that he was intending to vote for the vote leader, while Ecco was at -3 (-2 after Hal's vote). I never said you single-handely caused it, just that you could've stopped it, and you chose not to. How about you explain that part instead of deflecting with irrelevant minutiae.
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Oct 14, 2018 13:40
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Dancer posted:1) Willie voted at 4:00, you don't know if that counts as before or after deadline. Yes I do, because that's how loving mafia works. Dancer posted:2) I never said you single-handely caused it, just that you could've stopped it, and you chose not to. Dancer posted:and caused a no-lynch. 
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Oct 14, 2018 13:57
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CapitalistPig posted:Yes I do, because that's how loving mafia works. Okay fine I misspoke. Can you answer the loving question? Did you prefer no-lynch over ecco vote y/n, and why?
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Oct 14, 2018 14:00
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Dancer posted:Okay fine I misspoke. Can you answer the loving question? Did you prefer no-lynch over ecco vote y/n, and why? I very vocally stated why I refused to vote for ecco. You could try reading the game you are in.
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Oct 14, 2018 14:01
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CapitalistPig posted:I very vocally stated why I refused to vote for ecco. You could try not being a passive agressive poo poo but I guess we can't all have what we want.
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Oct 14, 2018 14:05
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Dancer posted:You could try not being a passive agressive poo poo but I guess we can't all have what we want. It's not my job to read the game for you. gently caress off.
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Oct 14, 2018 14:08
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Dancer posted:I thought things through and decided there's some universes in which ecco isn't scum. Toalpaz on also looked scummy. I decided that I'd prefer a Toalpaz lynch. And, I emphasized the I would continue being there until the deadline, which I was, and I moved to the vote leader when it was getting close. My vote made no difference. And, I dunno, it's almost like I explained all of this when I actually made the vote yesterday, and demanding the same explanation again are trying to distract from someone else. I was around near deadline and decided against voting ecco. Hal even called me out for my cpig vote.
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Oct 14, 2018 15:11
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CapitalistPig posted:It's not my job to read the game for you. Or you know, we could all try and work together.
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Oct 14, 2018 16:09
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Now now kiddies, everything is pointless. At least let me pretend like something is not. Hold hands sing loving kumbaya it's a game. TIA.
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Oct 14, 2018 16:26
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Toal claims to have eaten an NK so gaspy suggesting 3p kill in combination with toals claim.... I would vote gaspy or ecco so far today
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Toal claims to have eaten an NK so gaspy suggesting 3p kill in combination with toals claim.... To me the significance goes even beyond that, don't forget gaspy had that weird thing with being on Ecco's pm. That might not mean anything, but it also could have meant scum team was shuffled before being paired with the traitor imo. A mark against gaspy and dancer imo. That's kinda speculation, and there isn't evidence backing it up. But here's something: Scum team knows I didn't die last night, and is also fishing for a reason why. They make Jimmy, probably the night killer, claim that they copped me. The reason why is that I was probably only visited once, and they want a reason for Jimmy to have visited me before the NK info comes out in case someone is watching. The info that they get there is probably lunching me, confirming the existence of a doctor, trying to confirm the existence of a SK (judging by the gunsmith gambit), etc. The important thing about that gambit is that you don't have to be an investigator for it to work, and if Jimmy was pretty sure I was either JOAT or being doctor'd that play would be very good for scum. In addition it explains why dancer or ecco weren't copped to put that discussion to rest.
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Toalpaz posted:To me the significance goes even beyond that, don't forget gaspy had that weird thing with being on Ecco's pm. That might not mean anything, but it also could have meant scum team was shuffled before being paired with the traitor imo. A mark against gaspy and dancer imo. The reason I didn’t investigate Dancer or Ecco was that everyone was focusing on them yesterday and I thought they’d be the focus of night actions. People had suspicions of you yesterday and that’s why I went for you. How the hell was I supposed to know a JOAT was in play or the doctor would target you? I haven’t even heard of a JOAT until today. I can pull of the simple gambit like the one I pulled on you yesterday, but the fact that you assume I can pull off the level of gambit that you’re supposing I can pull off is a compliment, but highly unlikely.
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I mean, you could have been helped. I'm trying to see it from the scum perspective, it was probably more like this in scum chat: Go kill Toalpaz, no one will miss them. -later- What if they were watched? Say you have a result. Etc
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Oct 14, 2018 17:12
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Am I being suspected of being spy? Where has this come from? Do people legitimately think I’m scum? If so, where did it come from?
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willie_dee posted:Or you know, we could all try and work together. Or you know, if someone is too lazy to go back and read words then maybe they shouldn't sing up for a mafia game.
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Oct 14, 2018 18:19
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This game used to be about yelling at people and calling them dumb. What happened?
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Oct 14, 2018 18:21
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Toalpaz posted:To me the significance goes even beyond that, don't forget gaspy had that weird thing with being on Ecco's pm. That might not mean anything, but it also could have meant scum team was shuffled before being paired with the traitor imo. A mark against gaspy and dancer imo. Holy poo poo, did you just sway me with words. ##unvote I'd like to think about this.
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jimmydalad posted:Am I being suspected of being spy? Where has this come from? Do people legitimately think I’m scum? If so, where did it come from? They are saying you are scum, and your scumbuddies helped you. hth.
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Toalpaz posted:To me the significance goes even beyond that, don't forget gaspy had that weird thing with being on Ecco's pm. That might not mean anything, but it also could have meant scum team was shuffled before being paired with the traitor imo. A mark against gaspy and dancer imo. jimmydalad posted:The reason I didn’t investigate Dancer or Ecco was that everyone was focusing on them yesterday and I thought they’d be the focus of night actions. People had suspicions of you yesterday and that’s why I went for you. How the hell was I supposed to know a JOAT was in play or the doctor would target you? I haven’t even heard of a JOAT until today. I can pull of the simple gambit like the one I pulled on you yesterday, but the fact that you assume I can pull off the level of gambit that you’re supposing I can pull off is a compliment, but highly unlikely. argh, these posts are making it hard for me to decide which one is lying scum. Could they both be town?
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CapitalistPig posted:They are saying you are scum, and your scumbuddies helped you. hth. Well, what do you want me to do to prove my identity? Toalpaz has more experience playing the game and making GBS threads nice words out of their rear end to make them look innocent. I’ve been honest throughout with what my intentions have been and all my thought processes for my actions. If you honestly believe all my actions are part of some massive scum conspiracy to get Toalpaz voted off than you are going to lose. I’m saying all this cause punching me is a really loving stupid move and you’ll all look like idiots. I want town to win and each of my points have had their thought processes layed out, even if they may not be the best points. The only reason I came out was to explain why I was suspicious of Cpig’s claim. I did what I thought was beneficial for town. I have no idea what I am doing and people are gonna talk words around me but I swear on my life that I am Town. I am Buffy the Vampire Slayer. She is my flavour claim. I am the gunsmith and I’ve explained exactly how the role I’ve been given works and expanded on it to cover for things like if all scum or only the killer was the one to come back pos. I am town and if you lynch me you’re gonna all look really loving stupid.
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I wasn't necessarily saying you were scum. I was explaining what toal was saying because you seemed confused. Right now I'm honestly getting the feeling you both may be town.
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