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GrandpaPants posted:David Hyde Pierce apparently likes the Mignolaverse because he did do a voice for The Amazing Screw-on Head, which deserved more than its pilot. Yeah the amazing screw on head ruled
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If you want to see David Hyde Pierce in a very different role check out this movie The Perfect Host. It's a pretty solid movie but it's mostly a showcase for Pierce to act like a psycho
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Oct 17, 2018 22:35
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Frasier dude is cool with me. We had a Frasier appreciation thread in TGRS for awhile iirc. My favorite thing about it though is the tight writing. When I was 12 or so I would download the scripts and deconstruct them. Wannabe Screenwriter Kid KM was so cute and ambitious. 
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Oct 17, 2018 22:55
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food court bailiff posted:You post this idiotic hot take every time Frasier comes up in any thread as if Mel wasn't a conniving manipulator who talked Niles into multiple unnecessary cosmetic surgeries and violates HIPAA several times in her introductory episode. Oh thank god I was sure I’d read that exact post verbatim and was wondering if I’d gone insane.
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Oct 17, 2018 23:44
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 I remember watching Fridays, dimly, since I was generally baked. Besides Michael Richards "# 1 with a bullet" "gag", I recall a couple of other bits. One was a skit about two guys who were transphibians, wearing prosthetic grills and big eyes. They just spent five minutes asking to be understood and accepted, but were treated as creepy weirdos. Another was an African explorer bit where the token black guy on the cast asks a white guy in a pith helmet: "What island is this?" "The Island of Yumama" "Say what? " Tedious reaches for edgy racial humor follow. Pretty much everyone agreed the show was feeble and if you didn't have HBO, the only thing on Fridays after the news.
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Oct 17, 2018 23:48
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Push El Burrito posted:Let's just all agree his best role was in Wet Hot American Summer. exquisite tea posted:That’s true for most of the WHAS cast really.  Archer and Leslie Knope are exceptions to prove the rule. But if we bring it to TV and the Netflix WHAS, then that's probably the best H. Jon Benjamin live action role.
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Oct 18, 2018 00:16
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food court bailiff posted:You post this idiotic hot take every time Frasier comes up in any thread as if Mel wasn't a conniving manipulator who talked Niles into multiple unnecessary cosmetic surgeries and violates HIPAA several times in her introductory episode. Ah yes, violating HIPAA. That tried and true sitcom "bad guy" trope. And Niles chose to get the surgeries as a way to get close to her because he didn't have the courage to ask her out. Frasier even points this exact thing out to him. If you want we can rewatch the show together. Seems like you're remembering things wrong. edit: Yeah, on a reread it came off a lot more mean and unironic than intended. I'll still invite you to watch the show again. Getting a bunch of goons to have rewatch might be fun. Solice Kirsk has a new favorite as of 00:57 on Oct 18, 2018 |
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Oct 18, 2018 00:36
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Solice Kirsk posted:Ah yes, violating HIPAA. That tried and true sitcom "bad guy" trope.
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Oct 18, 2018 00:41
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Solice Kirsk posted:But I get it, you don't like Mel. I guess strong accomplished independent women aren't your thing. My heart feels for you food court bailiff, and you have my pity. This is a loving insane thing to say in response to someone disagreeing with your opinion about a TV character.
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Oct 18, 2018 00:47
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Ariong posted:This is a loving insane thing to say in response to someone disagreeing with your opinion about a TV character. Eh, it was meant to be absurdist. I'm not as good of a writer as they had on Frasier.
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Oct 18, 2018 00:48
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I think they probably had more than one.
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Oct 18, 2018 01:16
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You will rue the day
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Oct 18, 2018 01:22
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Krispy Wafer posted:Some actors just play terrible people really good. Attacking people is never cool but I admit I'm kinda amused at the idea of somebody doing it because they think GoT was a documentary and couldn't understand how Joff came back to life. Also, I knew he retired because he's probably got gently caress off money now but I thought it was because he was tired of it/didn't want to be pigeonholed into roles, you got a link for the assaults? e: someone addressed this, i left the tab open lemonadesweetheart posted:I hate Ross so much but almost everyone in Friends is terrible. Comedy Central in Ireland (and probably UK) shows it on a loop 24 hours a day. It's horrible. I used to like it and watch it when I was younger but now everything seems so dated and even more horrible than I remember it being. Why does it feel dated to you? I just did a rewatch of Seinfeld recently and, technology and fashions (can't decide which dates it more, tbh) aside, it still feels really, really modern. Like it almost feels like it's a "90s nostalgia sitcom" that's currently still in production. I don't know if it's the writing, camera-crap, whatever. Demon Of The Fall posted:Wasn't there an episode where the reverend dad looks under his? another? kids bed and he finds like a machete and grenades, lmao. This was the kid who was troubled because he listened to rock and roll or some crap. That show had some great satanic panic-type episodes. It's hard to believe Frank Reynold's was the better father. Milo and POTUS has a new favorite as of 01:59 on Oct 18, 2018 |
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My mom and sister loved 7th Heaven, and I remember them having the worst musical episode ever. Musical episodes in the first place are probably super hard to pull off well, but theirs would be in competition for outright worst.
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Oct 18, 2018 01:54
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Calaveron posted:You will rue the day fun fact: he only ever said that once on frasier
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Oct 18, 2018 01:55
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somepartsareme posted:fun fact: he only ever said that once on frasier I don’t care, Niles' gotta have it
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Oct 18, 2018 02:00
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bobjr posted:My mom and sister loved 7th Heaven, and I remember them having the worst musical episode ever. Musical episodes in the first place are probably super hard to pull off well, but theirs would be in competition for outright worst. Was Buffy the start of the bad late 90s musical episode trend, or did it start somewhere else?
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Oct 18, 2018 02:21
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Arivia posted:Was Buffy the start of the bad late 90s musical episode trend, or did it start somewhere else? Daria had one if I remember correctly. Eta: The Daria one aired in 1999, the Buffy one aired in 2001.
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Oct 18, 2018 02:30
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Ally McBeal had one in 1999, and the Simpsons did a clip show / musical episode in 1998. And I doubt either of those were the first.
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Oct 18, 2018 02:43
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They tried a whole tv show in the 80s. https://youtu.be/HPk966PuQNE
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purple death ray posted:They dubbed over the actors voice with Niles for the movie. I heard David Hyde Pierce thought it was stupid as the actor sounded almost the same & I think DHP didn't return to voice him in HellBoy 2 The story is, Pierce asked to listen to the original line readings so he'd have a baseline, and he was confused because Doug Jones' performance was perfectly fine and asked "Why am I here?" He tried to hew closely to Jones' readings, refused screen credit, didn't do any publicity. It was a stand up move.
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Oct 18, 2018 02:52
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rodbeard posted:They tried a whole tv show in the 80s. https://youtu.be/HPk966PuQNE I was going to say, big deal there's a musical show now, but this is uh....spectacularly terrible. Wow.
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Oct 18, 2018 04:01
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Musical episodes are great. 
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Oct 18, 2018 04:03
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A lot of the better shows are the ones with exactly one song per episode. Or more or less. The secret is a fuckload of band and theatre geeks and Broadway diehards go on to make TV shows.
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Oct 18, 2018 04:21
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Tiggum posted:Musical episodes are great. Yes, everyone singing annoyingly for no reason is fun. (Musical episodes are only good for people who love musicals. If a show I liked had a musical ep, I would straight up skip it. Musicals annoy me to no end. The singing always takes me out of the story.) Edit: (if it had a decent story to start with. Most musicals don't.) DicktheCat has a new favorite as of 04:33 on Oct 18, 2018 |
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Maxwell Lord posted:The story is, Pierce asked to listen to the original line readings so he'd have a baseline, and he was confused because Doug Jones' performance was perfectly fine and asked "Why am I here?" He tried to hew closely to Jones' readings, refused screen credit, didn't do any publicity. It was a stand up move. This is why Lily Tomlin wasn't Edna Mode in "The Incredibles": she heard Brad Bird do the voice and said "what do you need me for?"
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The fact that most of the main cast of Buffy can't sing really didn't help sell it for me.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:A lot of the better shows are the ones with exactly one song per episode. Or more or less. Bob's Burgers has at least one song every show and it's perfect.
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Push El Burrito posted:Bob's Burgers has at least one song every show and it's perfect. You know, I just mentioned upthread that I dislike musicals, but I actually like the Bob's Burgers songs. They add instead of distracting. An exception for everything.
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Great Metal Jesus posted:The fact that most of the main cast of Buffy can't sing really didn't help sell it for me. At least they covered for that. "I think this line's mostly filler"
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EvilGenius posted:Do you think the producers told her to never wear a bra, or was it her decision? I... suppose it didn't start any puberty in me because I don't remember anything like that. DicktheCat posted:Yes, everyone singing annoyingly for no reason is fun. It's actually nice when done well, does take a bit of getting used to. Crazy Ex-Girlfriend pulls it off, the one in Buffy worked, the Daria one didn't really do it for me.
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I haven't seen it all yet but I think a moment in Crazy Ex Girlfriend that worked fairly well was her pole dancing on the party bus, because a lot of the songs are mostly in her head so you assume that this is another of those sequences, then in the aftermath you realise that no, she actually did that and it's like "Shiiiiiiiit...."
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purple death ray posted:If you want to see David Hyde Pierce in a very different role check out this movie The Perfect Host. It's a pretty solid movie but it's mostly a showcase for Pierce to act like a psycho I disagree strongly with this--watch The Perfect Host if you want to see David Hyde Pierce play the exact same role but, like, in a Halloween episode of Frasier where Niles Crane goes insane. (It's actually been a long time since I've seen TPH but that's how I remember it. )
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BioEnchanted posted:I haven't seen it all yet but I think a moment in Crazy Ex Girlfriend that worked fairly well was her pole dancing on the party bus, because a lot of the songs are mostly in her head so you assume that this is another of those sequences, then in the aftermath you realise that no, she actually did that and it's like "Shiiiiiiiit...." It's a fine balance between her (and then others`) interpretation of things that are really going on, and commentary on the same things. Clearly I'm a Good Person isn't entirely what's going on in her head, what with other people's reactions. There's always an ironic undertone that serves as kind of like a Greek choir.
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I also like that she isn't just generally crazy as a descriptor, she genuinely has a lot of issues that are causing her problems in her life. I like when the bartender reads her and Josh the riot act and is just like "Wow, you are both terrible people aren't you? Well you too clusterfucks have fun because you deserve each other and not in a good way..."
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Oct 18, 2018 05:22
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It's surprisingly good on mental illness and many other things. One last season to go...
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Oct 18, 2018 05:32
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I really need to pick up on that show. I haven't seen the whole thing but the Scrubs musical episode seemed to do it pretty well. I think it depends on whether the cast actually has singing chops and whether they know to play to their strengths. (there's a reason a lot of shows that have regular singing parts have a different singing voice for characters. Sometimes this can get obvious. Recess made a joke about how Mikey's singing voice sounds completely different from his regular one)
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I really need to pick up on that show. I'm gonna get around to continuing watching it soon, I just never got around to continuing after the episode with the song "You Stupid Bitch"
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BioEnchanted posted:I'm gonna get around to continuing watching it soon, I just never got around to continuing after the episode with the song "You Stupid Bitch" It gets even better, but also heavier.
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Just a few years before the Buffy musical episode, Xena had one (maybe two by that point). I think even the Hercules show did a bit of a musical number episode at some point, too. At the time, the Xena musical episode seemed to have a LOT of attention put on it as a pretty out there thing. I don't know if Herc/Xena aged poorly, but I will always think that a lot of Xena's pop culture status waned when Buffy came out and became such a mainstream/cult character. That's a thing that I think is sort of strange because a lot of what Buffy was famous for sort of trailblazing, it felt like Xena was doing first around the same time in a B5/DS9 sort of way.
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