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People forget about the 'trick' part of it Today, TP, tomorrow, molotovs
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pushpins posted:I feel like this thread has lost its focus and I want to bring back a Halloween classic i mean, be fair, there is a direct response to this in the article and it tells the guy off for being miserly and says "just shut up and give them candy so they don't show up with pitchforks" so like, sure the letter is dumb, but its also an obvious set up for a huge spike i grew up in the heart of the burbs and i remember after moving to a more metropolitan area i was surprised by trick-or-treaters in cars from all over the city. at first i didn't like it either because i always saw it as a community thing: like, do it in your own neighborhood/community cuz that's part of the fun. you learn the area, meet the people, can walk instead of drive, etc. then i learned that i was just thinking like a privileged douche and just let the families do whatever cuz who gives a poo poo and not everyone has the same background as i did. like seriously, who loving cares. its kids showing up for candy in costumes.
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Oct 31, 2018 17:31
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The only thing I don't understand is parents that stalk-drive down the street with their kids. It's like, either park+walk with them or let them be free, don't half measure that poo poo.
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Retromancer posted:The only thing I don't understand is parents that stalk-drive down the street with their kids. dude its kinda cold out there.
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Oct 31, 2018 17:46
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Retromancer posted:This is where the pushback against leftism comes from though. People are miserable in their jobs and think that the only way to keep the populace working is to keep threatening their lives on a daily basis unless they work, and therefore if you didn't have to work everyone would sit around and sponge all day, and the idea of this drives a lot of people nuts. It's where the welfare queen narrative came from and it's the narrative behind dismantling even the most basic social safety net programs like food aid. It's deeply ingrained in our culture and I don't know how you dismantle that. The thing is that a lot of work is completely useless bullshit. The guy who writes intrusive popup ads to advertise fart apps isn't providing some vital social value that we'd be missing out on if he lounged around all day instead. In fact, capitalism is tying him up with wasted work when he could provide far more value to society if he were freed from the profit motive and could instead spend that time doing unprofitable work such as volunteering. On the other hand, there are plenty of people sitting around and sponging all day - it's just that they're not poor. There's plenty of rich failsons sitting around in do-nothing jobs that exist only to get them out of the house so they can leech off the family fortune from the comfort of their own private office.
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Oct 31, 2018 17:52
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General Dog posted:So the government needs to be the one turning the knobs? The people need to be turning the knobs, via democratic processes. What we have now is a bourgie dictatorship.
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Oct 31, 2018 17:54
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the answer to the American fetishization of labor is the imposition of labor laws and a safety net that allow people to gently caress off for years at a time, anything else is basically inconceivable given the degree to which the entire US political system and discourse is built on feeling spiteful about other poor people most of my friends are uneducated, apolitical laborers and they vote democrat but the only political topic that engenders actual passion is disability or welfare because they know a fat person on it / their racist stepfather insists all homeless people are part of criminal begging rings and make a thousand dollars a day. that kind of inextricable bile rotting inside them can't be talked out of them
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Oct 31, 2018 17:55
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Dreddout posted:To the anime appraisal mines with you, citizen there's another one i can't find where it's a person talking about how they have panic attacks at the grocery store and are looking forward to running the fire department after the revolution
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Oct 31, 2018 18:19
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RaySmuckles posted:dude It's sixty in upstate New York
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Oct 31, 2018 18:50
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Main Paineframe posted:The thing is that a lot of work is completely useless bullshit. The guy who writes intrusive popup ads to advertise fart apps isn't providing some vital social value that we'd be missing out on if he lounged around all day instead. In fact, capitalism is tying him up with wasted work when he could provide far more value to society if he were freed from the profit motive and could instead spend that time doing unprofitable work such as volunteering. Yea I was watching a documentary on the f-35 and it's depressing to watch probably top level engineers and billions of dollars being put towards a murder machine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPvzEr33maM
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Oct 31, 2018 21:05
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:It's sixty in upstate New York unsung benefit of climate change: easier to trick-or-treat in skimpy costumes
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Oct 31, 2018 21:08
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pushpins posted:Yea I was watching a documentary on the f-35 and it's depressing to watch probably top level engineers and billions of dollars being put towards a murder machine does it soften the blow or make it worse that it's not even a very good murder machine
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Oct 31, 2018 21:39
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World War Mammories posted:unsung benefit of climate change: easier to trick-or-treat in skimpy costumes uh only children trick or treat 
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Oct 31, 2018 21:47
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General Dog posted:So the government needs to be the one turning the knobs? Actually for starters, requirement #1 is that the capital itself isn't turning the knobs (as it mostly is now), as it'll inherently seek to consolidate and grow itself infinitely to form a featureless sphere of wealth growing as fast as physically possible, as incompatible this is with providing any utility for nonzero part of the society, incompatible with maintaining the environment over long term horizon, etc. You can make anyone in particular being in control sound scary or immoral but it's pretty clear the current arrangement doesn't and cannot work and it'll kill everyone if it's going to keep going. So yeah, until someone comes up with a better idea, I'm okay with "the gubbirmint" or "the pyorple" because while I'm sure there's a million ways that could go wrong, at least there's also ways it could go right, unlike what we have right now, which simply cannot.
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Oct 31, 2018 21:53
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Frog Act posted:uh only children trick or treat I don't think they're trick or treating for candy
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Kobayashi posted:I don't think they're trick or treating for candy smell my feet isnt a threat for some people
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Oct 31, 2018 22:05
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pushpins posted:Yea I was watching a documentary on the f-35 and it's depressing to watch probably top level engineers and billions of dollars being put towards a murder machine quote:"By 2014, the program was $163 billion over budget [and] seven years behind schedule" 
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Oct 31, 2018 23:14
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it's 2018 and I'm pretty sure that failson plane can't even shoot its gun yet look at this dumbass piece of poo poo: 
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Oct 31, 2018 23:15
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Turns out trying to replace 4 different planes with vastly different mission profiles with 1 airframe is really dumb. Who knew? Like you read the initial concepts of what they wanted the F35 to be and it sounds like the fever dream of someone who played too much mechwarrior. Retromancer has issued a correction as of 23:25 on Oct 31, 2018 |
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Oct 31, 2018 23:22
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Retromancer posted:Like you read the initial concepts of what they wanted the F35 to be and it sounds like the fever dream of someone who played too much mechwarrior. This but then later someone who never was able to play Steel Battalion as a kid got into the mix along the line, too.
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Oct 31, 2018 23:31
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the stupidest thing about the f35 is that it has a human pilot lmao at having organic components in your murder machine
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Oct 31, 2018 23:36
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Dead Beef posted:the stupidest thing about the f35 is that it has a human pilot The stupidest thing about the F-35 is literally everything about it.
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Oct 31, 2018 23:47
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the f-35 is if elon musk designed a military jet
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Nov 1, 2018 00:00
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with one button the chinese dark army will shut off all the machines so it's a moot point anyway pretty pretty cool how we let isreal start this global cyber war with our technology
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Shear Modulus posted:the f-35 is if elon musk designed a military jet
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it's great how we went from mostly shut in nerds building amazing mindblowing poo poo, like a plane, a fridge or an MRI or even getting people to the moon, to rich outspoken i love science nerds pretending to be geniuses while ruining absolutely everything they can lay their gaze on.
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Retromancer posted:This is where the pushback against leftism comes from though. People are miserable in their jobs and think that the only way to keep the populace working is to keep threatening their lives on a daily basis unless they work, and therefore if you didn't have to work everyone would sit around and sponge all day, and the idea of this drives a lot of people nuts. It's where the welfare queen narrative came from and it's the narrative behind dismantling even the most basic social safety net programs like food aid. It's deeply ingrained in our culture and I don't know how you dismantle that. This didn't really hit me until I was talking to some voters on my way back from canvassing today. I brought up the topic of UBI, and I could not dislodge them from the idea that people have to have an existential threat of starvation and homelessness to want to work. I quit my job two months ago because I couldn't stand working as a cashier anymore. I hate not working though, and while I concede that there are some people who would just lay around and sponge, I can't imagine the proportion of those folks are as high as the number of anecdotal welfare sponges I hear about. It seems like everyone has a story about it and I don't have a clue where that comes from. Is anyone familiar with papers on the subject? I'd like to read some academic works on attitudes toward work and unemployment.
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reagan ('s handlers) are widely regarded as inventing the welfare queen myth
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Dead Beef posted:the stupidest thing about the f35 is that it has a human pilot Hell yeah, I mailed a copy of a Bolo book to DARPA and they gave me thirty million dollars, I just have to duct tape a Glock to a Roomba sometime in the next six years
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Frog Act posted:uh only children trick or treat  in finding this again, I discovered that it's the last comic tim kreider made before 9/11, which is kind of funny, I guess
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F-35 is great, I'm all for making the US military into a giant, lazy, paper tiger
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World War Mammories posted:
I just realized the kid is shirtless, tattooed, and is wearing a speedo, and has a spiked collar. I have seen this comic like 40 times.
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Imagine F-35 money being spent on other things The F-35 of public healthcare The F-35 of feeding the hungry The F-35 of __________
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Nov 1, 2018 02:21
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I don't recall which thread it was in but someone said something like "Vietnam was when the military-industrial complex realized that it's more profitable to lose wars than to win them" and it's been bouncing around my head ever since
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Nov 1, 2018 02:35
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Woof Blitzer posted:Imagine F-35 money being spent on other things Public healthcare but medical examines have glitches that have caused the deaths of multiple doctors and patients
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Nov 1, 2018 02:36
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Retromancer posted:Turns out trying to replace 4 different planes with vastly different mission profiles with 1 airframe is really dumb. Who knew? More like a 12 year-old who is having fun smashing lego's together, but actually controls 100's of billions of dollar's and man-hours.
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Nov 1, 2018 02:38
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:More like a 12 year-old who is having fun smashing lego's together, but actually controls 100's of billions of dollar's and man-hours. it is basically this if the kid was also a mil tech nerd. "this is my super plane where it's a bomber that is also an air superiority fighter and it has VTOL and stealth and does CAS missions."
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No plane in history has had so many cigarette lighter ports.
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Retromancer posted:it is basically this if the kid was also a mil tech nerd. Also supersonic.
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