Deltarune: Asriel Weird Sciencing Sans out of the computer

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LazyMaybe: Aug 18, 2013; oouagh

The japanese interview from not too long ago with both Toby and ZUN where they both talk about enjoying each other's games and music etc makes the implementation of a grazing system in this game make a lot of sense

# ? Nov 6, 2018 18:29

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Terper: Jun 26, 2012

https://twitter.com/tobyfox/status/1059856695525101568

# ? Nov 6, 2018 19:02

El Burbo: Oct 10, 2012

I think dogs should vote!

# ? Nov 6, 2018 19:07

Pakled: Aug 6, 2011; WE ARE SMART

Deltarune Go to the polls

# ? Nov 6, 2018 19:13

Nyaa: Jan 7, 2010; Like, Nyaa.

You try to vote, but the only choice is Annoying Dog

_{_{your choice doesn�t matter}}

# ? Nov 6, 2018 19:15

The Cheshire Cat: Jun 10, 2008; Fun Shoe

Nyaa posted:

You try to vote, but the only choice is Annoying Dog

_{_{your choice doesn�t matter}}

The good news is that�s what I was going to pick anyway

# ? Nov 6, 2018 19:17

Supersonic Shine: Oct 13, 2012

*insert lukewarm take about how a dog would be a better public servant than anyone running for Congress right now*

# ? Nov 6, 2018 19:23

ThisIsACoolGuy: Nov 2, 2010; Shaped like a friend

Aisu posted:

So, I have a theory on the fluffy good boy that I don't think has shown up yet in the thread, so I figured I'd drop it in.

In the endgame sequence, Toriel notes that Kris, when younger, had a pair of red horns on a headband that have since gone missing. The specific note of the color is striking, since none of the boss monsters have red horns - but Ralsei sure does!

It's possible that a younger Kris still struggling to fit in wore the horns to school and got bullied/teased about them, eventually throwing them in the back of a supply closet in a fit of anger and then leaving them there to get buried under various school supply detritus. That gives Ralsei a physical "base" like the various children's toy Darkeners have, a childhood item that has been discarded and left in the dark.

If so, Ralsei is less Asriel AU and more Little Kris' Ideal Self - a boss monster instead of a human, polite and sweet and smart instead of weird and offputting and doing all the wrong things, etc. The sibling they wish they could have been to Asriel, the kid they wish they could have been to Toriel and Asgore. Add to that the loneliness of being left behind for years and the instinctive connection to and love for Kris, and you get a lonely fluffy prince.

This makes the Kris meta theories potentially even sadder. It's possible this whole thing is meant to be some Labyrinth-ish journey through Kris and Susie's childhoods to teach them about friendship and growing up and so on, and probably Kris should have some feelings about and react to Ralsei turning out to be their childhood OC, but of course Kris just stands there, staring, waiting for your input. You're hijacking their story.

I was going to post this but decided against it.

I think it's a easy confirm too given the intro has you build your ideal body, getting rid of it and then saying you can't choose who you are.

# ? Nov 6, 2018 19:24

Well Manicured Man: Aug 21, 2010; Well Manicured Mort

Supersonic Shine posted:

*insert lukewarm take about how a dog would be a better public servant than anyone running for Congress right now*

quote:

somehow, at the end of the day... a small, white dog became president of the underground. it sleeps on the throne and does absolutely nothing. strangely, it seems this is the best life for everyone.

# ? Nov 6, 2018 19:25

Nyaa: Jan 7, 2010; Like, Nyaa.

I won�t mind if toby go back to black and white color to finish the next game in few months instead.

# ? Nov 6, 2018 19:29

somepartsareme: Mar 10, 2012; Diggle Hell is a Real
(Swingin') Place

Terper posted:

https://twitter.com/tobyfox/status/1059856695525101568

something something, your choices dont matter in this world

# ? Nov 6, 2018 19:32

Owlofcreamcheese: May 22, 2005; Can't post for 9 years!; Buglord

Do you feel like the final game is going to be called deltarune? I feel like deltarune as a name is supposed to be part of the weird fakeout where this was supposed to be presented as a survey for players then "surprise! it's a game!" that is super super half hearted and seems to only exist in the file name and not followed through.

# ? Nov 6, 2018 19:39

Electric Phantasm: Apr 7, 2011; YOSPOS

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

Do you feel like the final game is going to be called deltarune? I feel like deltarune as a name is supposed to be part of the weird fakeout where this was supposed to be presented as a survey for players then "surprise! it's a game!" that is super super half hearted and seems to only exist in the file name and not followed through.

It's gonna be called Undertale Hard Mode.

# ? Nov 6, 2018 19:43

Lunatic Sledge: Jun 8, 2013; choose your own horror isekai sci-fi Souls-like urban fantasy gamer simulator adventure

or don't?

Undertale 2: Twin Sans

edit: Sans of Liberty

# ? Nov 6, 2018 19:46

Filthy Haiku: Oct 22, 2010; i am shattering like glass

but at least
i have

springy ride

Electric Phantasm posted:

It's gonna be called Undertale Hard Mode.

Undertale: Big Oof edition

# ? Nov 6, 2018 19:53

ThisIsACoolGuy: Nov 2, 2010; Shaped like a friend

https://twitter.com/KenjuTE/status/1059879643157852161

My friend did a art so I'm sharing it now

# ? Nov 6, 2018 19:55

Hwurmp: May 20, 2005

Lunatic Sledge posted:

Undertale 2: Twin Sans

edit: Sans of Liberty

Guns of the Papyrus

# ? Nov 6, 2018 19:56

Nyaa: Jan 7, 2010; Like, Nyaa.

It will be call Nude Alert: Anagram Edition

# ? Nov 6, 2018 20:01

Electric Phantasm: Apr 7, 2011; YOSPOS

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

https://twitter.com/KenjuTE/status/1059879643157852161

My friend did a art so I'm sharing it now

Tell your friend they did good.

# ? Nov 6, 2018 20:02

Hogama: Sep 3, 2011

Really Pants posted:

Gun's of the Papyrus

# ? Nov 6, 2018 20:02

GunnerJ: Aug 1, 2005; Do you think this is funny?

Kinda think it's unavoidable that the last scene is supposed to invoke the Undertale genocide ending. Like, Kris's eye glows red. Evil red eyes have nothing to do with Pie Theory and self harm. Not saying this means Kris is Chara or anything, just that the connection thematically for the presumed audience of Undertale players is unavoidable and probably intended.

Also do we still really need spoiler tags.

# ? Nov 6, 2018 20:02

McFrugal: Oct 11, 2003

Aisu posted:

So, I have a theory on the fluffy good boy that I don't think has shown up yet in the thread, so I figured I'd drop it in.

In the endgame sequence, Toriel notes that Kris, when younger, had a pair of red horns on a headband that have since gone missing. The specific note of the color is striking, since none of the boss monsters have red horns - but Ralsei sure does!

It's possible that a younger Kris still struggling to fit in wore the horns to school and got bullied/teased about them, eventually throwing them in the back of a supply closet in a fit of anger and then leaving them there to get buried under various school supply detritus. That gives Ralsei a physical "base" like the various children's toy Darkeners have, a childhood item that has been discarded and left in the dark.

If so, Ralsei is less Asriel AU and more Little Kris' Ideal Self - a boss monster instead of a human, polite and sweet and smart instead of weird and offputting and doing all the wrong things, etc. The sibling they wish they could have been to Asriel, the kid they wish they could have been to Toriel and Asgore. Add to that the loneliness of being left behind for years and the instinctive connection to and love for Kris, and you get a lonely fluffy prince.

This makes the Kris meta theories potentially even sadder. It's possible this whole thing is meant to be some Labyrinth-ish journey through Kris and Susie's childhoods to teach them about friendship and growing up and so on, and probably Kris should have some feelings about and react to Ralsei turning out to be their childhood OC, but of course Kris just stands there, staring, waiting for your input. You're hijacking their story.

Hey quit stealing my thunder :mad:

McFrugal posted:

If there's some twist with Ralsei it could be that he's not even a real person.
What if the Dark World is a world created from the make-believe wishes of children? Playing pretend with a deck of cards and chess/checkers, or... a headband with red horns on it. Ralsei is who Kris wishes they could be(but you can't choose who you are), while the Card Kingdom is one created by the imagination of all the other kids. Ralsei's kingdom is empty because Kris didn't make up any friends to go along with him. Or maybe it's empty because Kris doesn't have any friends.

Kris discarded the headband. The games got locked up in the unused classroom. The Dark World is sealed away.

I guess I'll spoiler tag it this time.

# ? Nov 6, 2018 20:10

Terper: Jun 26, 2012

Supersonic Shine posted:

*insert lukewarm take about how a dog would be a better public servant than anyone running for Congress right now*

somepartsareme posted:

something something, your choices dont matter in this world

I hope these lovely takes doesn't mean you aren't voting (if you're American)

# ? Nov 6, 2018 20:27

Magitek: Feb 20, 2008; That's not jolly.
That's not jolly at all!

Terper posted:

https://twitter.com/tobyfox/status/1059856695525101568

@FoxNews retweeted: PROOF of voter fraud! Bleeding heart millennial is allowed to bring DOG to vote! We need stronger voter ID laws!!

# ? Nov 6, 2018 20:28

Frankston: Jul 27, 2010

ThaumPenguin posted:

I found Scarlet Forest to be pretty wonderful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LT30cG29Bs

There's just something about it that's... cozy and inviting, while also invoking a sense of adventure

This really reminded me of Oxenfree.

# ? Nov 6, 2018 20:33

ThaumPenguin: Oct 9, 2013

GunnerJ posted:

Kinda think it's unavoidable that the last scene is supposed to invoke the Undertale genocide ending. Like, Kris's eye glows red. Evil red eyes have nothing to do with Pie Theory and self harm. Not saying this means Kris is Chara or anything, just that the connection thematically for the presumed audience of Undertale players is unavoidable and probably intended.

Also do we still really need spoiler tags.

# ? Nov 6, 2018 20:38

Nyaa: Jan 7, 2010; Like, Nyaa.

That look like poop.

# ? Nov 6, 2018 20:42

ThaumPenguin: Oct 9, 2013

Nyaa posted:

That look like poop.

Apparently nobody's uploaded a pic of the deltarune pie yet so I had to make do

# ? Nov 6, 2018 20:43

Supersonic Shine: Oct 13, 2012

Terper posted:

I hope these lovely takes doesn't mean you aren't voting (if you're American)

Excuse you, my takes are mediocre, not lovely. Also, I�ve already voted.

Going back on topic, if that theory about Raslei being young Kris�s ideal self comes true (and it�s a drat solid theory, despite what I�m about to say), I expect an absolute deluge of jokes about Raslei being Kris�s fursona.

# ? Nov 6, 2018 21:01

Space Cadet Omoly: Jan 15, 2014; ~Groovy~

Supersonic Shine posted:

Excuse you, my takes are mediocre, not lovely. Also, I�ve already voted.

Going back on topic, if that theory about Raslei being young Kris�s ideal self comes true (and it�s a drat solid theory, despite what I�m about to say), I expect an absolute deluge of jokes about Raslei being Kris�s fursona.

I was already thinking that, I just didn't want to be the first to say it out loud.

# ? Nov 6, 2018 21:06

Thompsons: Aug 28, 2008; Ask me about onklunk extraction.

I like how half of the twitter art I see for Ralsei can't seem to decide if he has just paws or walks around with little booties on. I mean I just naturally assumed he had boots to go with the Paddington look of 'big coat, big hat.'

# ? Nov 6, 2018 21:22

RabidWeasel: Aug 4, 2007; Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!

Supersonic Shine posted:

Excuse you, my takes are mediocre, not lovely. Also, I�ve already voted.

Going back on topic, if that theory about Raslei being young Kris�s ideal self comes true (and it�s a drat solid theory, despite what I�m about to say), I expect an absolute deluge of jokes about Raslei being Kris�s fursona.

I mean you can do worse in life than wanting to be smart and diligent and nice to everyone and ask for nothing in return other than maybe some reciprocated affection, and also a goddamn adorable fluffy goat like the rest of your family rather than a weird human made out of blood

This whole angle puts Ralsei's personality in a fairly depressing light, he's so goddamn needy (in a sweet way) that it's difficult to imagine how sad and lonely Kris must have been

# ? Nov 6, 2018 21:22

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

Well at the start of the game, Kris still seems sad and lonely. I don't think the idealized self is from too far in the past.

# ? Nov 6, 2018 21:26

nine-gear crow: Aug 10, 2013

Thompsons posted:

I like how half of the twitter art I see for Ralsei can't seem to decide if he has just paws or walks around with little booties on. I mean I just naturally assumed he had boots to go with the Paddington look of 'big coat, big hat.'

The sprite implies it�s a pair of pointy toe boots, however the reveal at the end of Chapter 1 throws that into question. Is he a white goat in black boots? Or would his feet be white too if he stood fully in the light? The world my never know

Also the boots complete the whole wizard look he�s got going on...

# ? Nov 6, 2018 21:27

GunnerJ: Aug 1, 2005; Do you think this is funny?

RabidWeasel posted:

This whole angle puts Ralsei's personality in a fairly depressing light, he's so goddamn needy (in a sweet way) that it's difficult to imagine how sad and lonely Kris must have been

The only flaw I see in the theory, as the oldest of two sons, is that "desperation for acknowledgement and approval from a cool older brother" tends to involve more being an annoying poo poo to get a rise out of your older brother than groveling deference.

Edit: Or maybe it's just that I wasn't cool??? :pwn:

# ? Nov 6, 2018 21:28

Nyaa: Jan 7, 2010; Like, Nyaa.

I think it�s call inferiority complex instead of depression.

# ? Nov 6, 2018 21:32

Average Bear: Apr 4, 2010

Sans Undertale nude

# ? Nov 6, 2018 21:47

Average Bear: Apr 4, 2010

How to delete posts

# ? Nov 6, 2018 21:47

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

The lack of interest and withdrawal from their family and classmates indicates depression because Kris doesn't take pleasure or have opinions about things. We can see that from the lack of objects in the room, awards or otherwise. Inability to play piano like they once could may be a sign. No hobbies because nothing makes them happy. The only trait we're aware of throughout the game outside of the make belief world is that Kris likes pie and is shy, but doesn't even take a slice before collapsing into bed exhausted.

An inferiority complex would typically be hinted at via 2nd place trophies in decor, Kris sharing the same interests in Asriel, wanting to be just like him, etc. I think that Kris's issues are deeper then that, and if Kris really had an inferiority complex it would be mostly resolved by their brother leaving or shown by a competitive aspect of their personality at school.

# ? Nov 6, 2018 21:51

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Space Cadet Omoly: Jan 15, 2014; ~Groovy~

GunnerJ posted:

The only flaw I see in the theory, as the oldest of two sons, is that "desperation for acknowledgement and approval from a cool older brother" tends to involve more being an annoying poo poo to get a rise out of your older brother than groveling deference.

Edit: Or maybe it's just that I wasn't cool???

Different people handle the quest for sibling love and support in different ways. From what we've seen though yeah, in real life Kris often was more creepy and annoying than cute. He pulled mean pranks, he had trouble talking to people, he always wanted to hang out with the older kids because it was hard for him to connect to anyone other than his brother, among many other red flags for social maladjustment. Ralsei is less "What Kris was actually like as a kid" and more "what Kris wishes he was like as a child" which is: Sweet, social, eager to help, and just the cutest most lovable little monster ever :3:

(and not a gross human full of blood).

Nyaa posted:

I think it’s call inferiority complex instead of depression.

If I had money to bet, I would put a thousand down on Kris having both of those things.

# ? Nov 6, 2018 21:51

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