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trapped mouse posted:Africa colonized the hell out of Portugal though.
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I almost missed the a so for a second I thought there was a big patch of jam all over the middle east.
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Poil posted:I almost missed the a so for a second I thought there was a big patch of jam all over the middle east.
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Nov 7, 2018 21:55
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I'm playing a Timurids -> Mughals game, and finally got around to fighting the Ottomans, who rivaled me fairly early on. Built up a good sized army and was proceeding to wreck the Ottos when their allies, the French, showed up. They didn't turn the tide, but did manage to win a battle or two and unsiege some provinces before I could counter-counterattack, whereupon the French armies started heading west--to regroup, I thought. However, they didn't come back. When I reached Istanbul, the Frenchies were nowhere to be seen. Far as I can tell, they just packed up and left. The question is: why? They weren't at war with anyone else, and they still had 100k+ soldiers. They were low on manpower, but that's never stopped the AI before. They were also having some revolts back home due to the wars of religion disaster (I think that's what it's called, it's France-specific), but nothing that looked particularly dangerous from what little I could see under the fog of war. Anyone seen AI behavior like this, or have any idea what happened? I'm certainly not complaining, but eventually I'm going to have to fight them again, and I'd like to know what to expect.
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Nov 8, 2018 00:18
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 I love league wars, always chaos. 
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jwalrus posted:I'm playing a Timurids -> Mughals game, and finally got around to fighting the Ottomans, who rivaled me fairly early on. Built up a good sized army and was proceeding to wreck the Ottos when their allies, the French, showed up. They didn't turn the tide, but did manage to win a battle or two and unsiege some provinces before I could counter-counterattack, whereupon the French armies started heading west--to regroup, I thought. However, they didn't come back. When I reached Istanbul, the Frenchies were nowhere to be seen. Far as I can tell, they just packed up and left. The AI has a really weird way of prioritising what its troops do, as far as I can tell the logic basically breaks down like this: 1. Locate the most vulnerable enemy army in the entire world compared to my own army size. 2. Mash my armies into that army even if it means completely ignoring enemy forts and larger enemy armies and going thousands of miles away from my own territory which is now undefended because I sent all my armies into the rear end end of nowhere. 3. If there aren't any armies I can actually reach and defeat, then seige some random fort with an 80k stack. Under no circumstances fight the troops seiging you or your ally's provinces.
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Nov 8, 2018 00:36
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jwalrus posted:I'm playing a Timurids -> Mughals game, and finally got around to fighting the Ottomans, who rivaled me fairly early on. Built up a good sized army and was proceeding to wreck the Ottos when their allies, the French, showed up. They didn't turn the tide, but did manage to win a battle or two and unsiege some provinces before I could counter-counterattack, whereupon the French armies started heading west--to regroup, I thought. However, they didn't come back. When I reached Istanbul, the Frenchies were nowhere to be seen. Far as I can tell, they just packed up and left. It was probably the rebels. The AI dropping everything to run off and fight some minor rebellion is not surprising at all.
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Nov 8, 2018 00:37
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 Help, I need the empire malice to keep my vassal addiction under control.
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Nov 8, 2018 00:57
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Dirk the Average posted:Spain didn't seem to colonize Africa. That's at least a bit odd. Also Denmark has inherited Norway but not Sweden.
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Nov 8, 2018 01:05
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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RabidWeasel posted:The AI has a really weird way of prioritising what its troops do, as far as I can tell the logic basically breaks down like this: Don't forget the all-important "sign a million access treaties and then play peekaboo on my enemy's border".
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Nov 8, 2018 03:26
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PittTheElder posted:Also Denmark has inherited Norway but not Sweden. this is like every 1 out of 3 games i feel
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Nov 8, 2018 03:31
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I'm having a revolt from a tag that doesn't exist according to the wiki, Atjehan  I'm tempted to let them win, just to find out what they are, though they'll probably just be some generic east indies thang
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Nov 8, 2018 04:23
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oddium posted:this is like every 1 out of 3 games i feel At least. It's very common. Sweden frequently has the power to break free from the PU but Norway does not, and Sweden and Norway only rarely ally and try to declare independence together.
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Nov 8, 2018 06:36
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:At least. It's very common. Sweden frequently has the power to break free from the PU but Norway does not, and Sweden and Norway only rarely ally and try to declare independence together.
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Nov 8, 2018 07:33
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Deceitful Penguin posted:It's not just that; that "Historical Friends" modifier is absurd; Denmark can be left as a single province and Norway will still not go over into disloyalty. It's rather irritating too, because there's a buncha Norwegian events that never really happen because they happen way, way too late. Historical!
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Nov 8, 2018 07:44
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THE BAR posted:Historical! Why not add a real custom new world option? Add Atlantis in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean? Mu? Colonizable Antarctic? Alt-History Start dates? Better and more mission trees, maybe even dynamic ones tied to ideas? maybe even bring back the ole 1399 lol
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Nov 8, 2018 07:49
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Add Atlantis in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean? Mu? Unfortunately, it seems like this mod is dead.
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Nov 8, 2018 08:05
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I'm trying to do the holy trinity achievement - what can be done to counteract the liberty desire while being a small country? Not counting Knights, Teutons and Livonians, the plan is to no-cb vassalize Byz and get their cores back from the OE, as well as transferring Naples with the age ability as that's just too tempting. That's 5 vassals, 3 of which must be marches, and the Pope has 5 provinces; can't wait to vassalize TO and LO cause they eventually get eaten and are a bitch and a half to recreate (especially LO). So it is likely I will have at least 3 vassals at a time, most of which are bigger than me. Any tricks?
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Nov 8, 2018 10:32
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use your mana to develop their provinces
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Nov 8, 2018 10:55
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Prav posted:use your mana to develop their provinces Yeah, but won't that make it worse in the long run? Doesn't total development count (negatively) as well, or is it just military strength?
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Nov 8, 2018 11:04
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Tbh I think you're going about it wrong - especially since the Livonians are far away, I can't see how you would vassalize them early regardless. I would guarantee/ally them early, expand as much as possible in Italy, France, etc. Create a situation where anyone BUT you is less likely to see them as easy money, until you're strong enough to keep them in check. It doesn't look like there's a time limit to the achievement, so as long as you're lucky and don't screw around, you should probably be fine. You also might want to join (stay in?) the HRE to make northward expansion easier.
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Nov 8, 2018 14:17
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TO and LO are both inclined to get conquered early and since they aren’t primary nations of any culture (iirc) they can potentially lose all their cores and become unreleasable
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Nov 8, 2018 14:34
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skasion posted:TO and LO are both inclined to get conquered early and since they aren’t primary nations of any culture (iirc) they can potentially lose all their cores and become unreleasable Indeed. LO is even worse as they are prussian culture with no prussian culture provinces so to revive them in case they are conquered you have just 50 years and have to culture convert one of the provinces to Prussia. It's a pain in the rear end!
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Nov 8, 2018 14:39
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Wouldn't no-CBing them when they've lost their first war work? The Teutons lose half their provinces to an unavoidable event now, which is all kinds of stupid, but probably makes this easier to time?
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Nov 8, 2018 14:44
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Declare war on Genoa to take their Crimean provinces, this gets you a border with Lithuania, get allies, wreck Lithuania to get a path to the LO so you can guarantee them. Austria/Bohemia are good allies for this, with the Crimean provinces you might be close enough to get Muscowy on board too.
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Nov 8, 2018 14:59
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PittTheElder posted:Also Denmark has inherited Norway but not Sweden. Inheritance is a single roll under the junior partner's size +/- a few modifiers, and it's one roll for all partners, so yeah it's simply way more possible to inherit Norway than Sweden (and you'll never see inheriting Sweden without inheriting Norway as well.)
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oddium posted:this is like every 1 out of 3 games i feel Weird, I almost always see one of two outcomes; either Sweden frees itself and promptly devours Norway (with Norway either free or a PU Junior, it seems to make little difference), or it doesn't and Denmark eventually inherits or integrates both. PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Nov 9, 2018 |
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Nov 9, 2018 00:29
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Deceitful Penguin posted:I'm having a revolt from a tag that doesn't exist according to the wiki, Atjehan Is it in Northern Sumatra? If so, it is probably Aceh. The wiki lists them as a formable nation from revolts.
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canepazzo posted:Yeah, but won't that make it worse in the long run? Doesn't total development count (negatively) as well, or is it just military strength? it's a short-term solution to a short-term problem. use your vassals to grow yourself.
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So I know this a corner case type thing but I don't think that native colonies that convert to Catholicism should be affected by the Treaty of Tordesillas or at least there should be the option to petition to the Pope to repeal it in a given region.
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Nov 9, 2018 11:11
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Getting the annual itch to play some EU4, is Dharma worth picking up? Steam reviews are all negative saying it broke all kinds of poo poo, is that true and is it just the expansion stuff broken or does it break stuff outside India if you have it?
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Nov 9, 2018 16:39
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FlyingCowOfDoom posted:Getting the annual itch to play some EU4, is Dharma worth picking up? Steam reviews are all negative saying it broke all kinds of poo poo, is that true and is it just the expansion stuff broken or does it break stuff outside India if you have it? It's just bads being bad. Playing around in India is A++ and the reform system is deece. The revolt management is sweet too. The only issue I have with it is the selling of asian provinces to europeans, which is the most unfun mechanic ever. Having to sail over to Europe to finish wars for single provinces is okay if you need to do it once, but my current Bharat game I'm now on my 13th war to liberate an asian coastal province from the perfidious europeans. I ended up conquering land in Europe just so I could station poo poo over there between wars.
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FlyingCowOfDoom posted:Getting the annual itch to play some EU4, is Dharma worth picking up? Steam reviews are all negative saying it broke all kinds of poo poo, is that true and is it just the expansion stuff broken or does it break stuff outside India if you have it? It's great, and the thing people disliked most about it, not being able to convert territories, has been mostly alleviated with the religious ideas change.
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Buying land in trade company regions needs to have much more stringent requirements. Like make it the finisher for expansion ideas or something. Near the end of the game you end up with literally every shithole OPM in Europe has their own trade company just because tech gives them colonial range around the entire world. Alternative solution: drastically reduce the colonial range you get from late game tech so that the Papal State can't reach Indonesia just from that.
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Cynic Jester posted:It's just bads being bad. Playing around in India is A++ and the reform system is deece. The revolt management is sweet too. The only issue I have with it is the selling of asian provinces to europeans, which is the most unfun mechanic ever. Having to sail over to Europe to finish wars for single provinces is okay if you need to do it once, but my current Bharat game I'm now on my 13th war to liberate an asian coastal province from the perfidious europeans. I ended up conquering land in Europe just so I could station poo poo over there between wars. The problem here is that the warscore and AI peace logic systems are rancid lovely balls rather than anything else.
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I havent bought Dharma because of the "Euros buying land in Asia for no good reason" issue. I'm trying really hard to speak with my wallet but on the other hand I want the expansion anyway.
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"Euros buying land in Asia for no good reason" tho is amazing when they buy land right next to Ming 
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