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Yeah I'm done with it for now, I only brought my poo poo up to give context to why I was so upset about things. Didn't mean to go dominating the conversation.
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Somewhat Heroic posted:Holy poo poo it’s time to ban politichat again. Disagree. It's been relatively civil thus far.
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Nov 8, 2018 04:12
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Nov 8, 2018 04:16
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angryrobots posted:How about we ban using all caps in politichat Dude's name is all caps. I'm pretty sure that's his normal operation.
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Nov 8, 2018 04:20
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Gingerbread House Music posted:Then just back up your argument otherwise with facts from reputable sources. If you can do that, i'll happily admit i was wrong and apologize. ExplodingSims posted:Hey guys, the government doesn't literally have a file marked LGBT Death Plans, Fig. A-G, so things cant be that bad, amirite? This. This facetious statement by Sims is you. You're an idiot if you think otherwise. "No, they don't want to literally gas them in chambers, only remove all legal protections so it's OK for other people to do just about anything up to that without percussion. Also, I'm fine with this. Yeah, let's let employers fire them, landlords evict them, and cities refuse to service them. That's all superficial, don'tcha know?" Stop. Stop now.
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Nov 8, 2018 04:30
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Guess you don't need a uterus to be hysterical. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nov 8, 2018 04:41
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Liquid Communism posted:This is a hell of a position to take in a thread where a fellow poster just noted why the party in power would prefer them dead. Maybe exercise a little empathy and realize that just because you're in a position you believe is insulated enough to be above it all, it doesn't mean there aren't a ton of people in the US with a lot to lose? Forgive my sarcasm, but both my trans friends committed suicide in their early 40’s and as loving weird as it may seem were both staunch highly religious republicans, because California and anti-establishment as weird as it is to wrap your mind around that... Turns out hormones have a good chance of doing some wonderful poo poo to your brain which is why a psychologist is recommended at all times and tone of the reasons trans death is young. So to our trans posters out there, be safe and do everything to a T. Also, both had really hosed up, highly abusive childhoods which both of them point blank said that’s why they didn’t feel comfortable in their own bodies and felt like less of a man so they reassigned. Their plight had nothing to do with a party in power, but hormones and abusive childhoods are a cocktail for disaster, at least in both my friends. Thanks, now I really miss them. 
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Nov 8, 2018 04:43
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Gingerbread House Music posted:Guess you don't need a uterus to be hysterical. For gently caress's sake.
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Nov 8, 2018 04:44
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Oh, sorry. I thought we were just going to rant and shitpost blindly. My bad.
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Nov 8, 2018 04:46
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Nov 8, 2018 04:49
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Gingerbread House Music posted:Guess you don't need a uterus to be hysterical. Jesus christ 
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keykey posted:Forgive my sarcasm, but both my trans friends committed suicide in their early 40’s and as loving weird as it may seem we’re both staunch highly religious republicans, because California and anti-establishment as weird as it is to wrap your mind around that... Turns out hormones have a good chance of doing some wonderful poo poo to your brain which is why a psychologist is recommended at all times and tone of the reasons trans death is young. So to our trans posters out there, be safe and do everything to a T. Also, both had really hosed up, highly abusive childhoods which both of them point blank said that’s why they didn’t feel comfortable in their own bodies and felt like less of a man so they reassigned. Their plight had nothing to do with a party in power, but hormones and abusive childhoods are a cocktail for disaster, at least in both my friends. Thanks, now I really miss them.
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ilkhan posted:The suicide rate along trans- is something obscenely high, like 30x higher than average iirc? Something like that. Be safe trans- goons. And condolences for your friends. I don't know in "x" but it's along the lines of 40% attempt. Almost like being in parts of the country that don't want you to exist/beat you up/attempt to kill you on site (around 40%...geographically? with bad luck) can affect things. In happier news, three states passed the medicaid expansion. Nebraska, Utah, and Idaho. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfJzJZ5BMIQ Like, super surprised by those last two, as someone who grew up until 24 in ID. I guess when people who want insurance vote and the government tries to gently caress you out of it six ways to Sunday through other measures and refusing to adopt the marketplace, even a deeply anti-tax, traditional conservative government populace will find ways to get coverage. I'm stoked about it tbh even though I will never live there again. Queen Combat fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Nov 8, 2018 |
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Nov 8, 2018 04:59
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ilkhan posted:The left has a huge mental break between literally Nazis and historical Nazis. Thinking about trans hunting squads is more of the same. A lot of the poo poo that Trump says is, on a degree of hype level, identical to what the left says In fact, both sides are known to march with tiki torches yelling "Jews will not replace us" so ilkhan is correct once again. But at least he votes to support his party's abhorrent treatment of other US citizens instead of just letting it happen through apathy, and hell - only some of those guys wear swastikas, so basically painting the party that covers for that type of groups as if they're historical nazis instead of just current ones is unfair. "It's just hype, bro" - The guys lynching Emmett Till
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Nov 8, 2018 06:05
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Adiabatic posted:Disagree. It's been relatively civil thus far. *Less than 30 minutes passes.* Gingerbread House Music posted:Guess you don't need a uterus to be hysterical. There's only one person not civil here. Don't ban politics, but maybe keep one person out.
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Nov 8, 2018 06:14
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keykey posted:Forgive my sarcasm, but both my trans friends committed suicide in their early 40’s and as loving weird as it may seem were both staunch highly religious republicans, because California and anti-establishment as weird as it is to wrap your mind around that... Turns out hormones have a good chance of doing some wonderful poo poo to your brain which is why a psychologist is recommended at all times and tone of the reasons trans death is young. So to our trans posters out there, be safe and do everything to a T. Also, both had really hosed up, highly abusive childhoods which both of them point blank said that’s why they didn’t feel comfortable in their own bodies and felt like less of a man so they reassigned. Their plight had nothing to do with a party in power, but hormones and abusive childhoods are a cocktail for disaster, at least in both my friends. Thanks, now I really miss them. I'm sorry to hear that. My sarcasm detector's a bit toasty right now, so I wasn't really sure if that was a good faith post. 
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Dropped $240 (w/shipping) at Rockauto today. New front quickstruts. Moog, which surprisingly wasn't the most expensive option (motherfucking Monroe was). If I'd gone Gabriel I would have saved about $15/corner, and get a mail in rebate for a 1/2" impact wrench, but it'd be air powered, with unknown specs. If it was electric, maybe... It's coming UPS, but going to my PO Box (my post office accepts packages from all carriers for me, so long as I switch up the addressing slightly for non-USPS stuff). They're gonna hate me when that heavy box comes in. I'm so used to Rockauto using Fedex that I had it sent there out of habit; UPS will actually leave poo poo at my door (unlike Fedex), so I really should have had it sent to the apartment. OTOH the shipping rate dropped by $5 or so since it's going to a commercial address. CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Plus Beto, while he lost, put up a hell of a showing and showed himself to be the kind of person you want as a Presidential candidate. You got Gillam in Florida also stood up well. 2020 isnt just going to be the same Clinton shitshow - you have progressive and viable candidates that most certainly can beat Trump. Also it's quite clear the majority of the USA wants more of a centerish policy platform and the younger Dems are willing to run on that. Beto won almost all of the big cities and a shitload of lesser populated areas (mostly along the border), which is a hell of a showing for someone that up until the midterms, was relatively unknown. And he's from my home town, which makes me proud. sniff Pretty shocked he became known nationwide though. Cruz is known because of his presidential bid and gnashing with Trump, but not for much else. everdave posted:Hate to ask more questions but is it worth it to pay a lot more and stay near French Quarter / Bourbon Street or in the day and age of uber is it ok to stay by airport? We are talking about hundreds of dollars difference (New Orleans) Groupon man. You can find French Quarter and CBD rooms for <$100/night (some under $80 in the Quarter - you'll sleep much better in the CBD though). Hotel Tonight is good too, but often for 1 night at a time. Uber will likely eat up any savings. If you stay in the CBD, you can easily walk to the quarter and forego all driving. Just remember not to walk out of the quarter with any open containers (can't go past Canal St... really a block before, but nobody will hassle you until you hit Canal). Even if you don't do Groupon, the La Quinta on Camp St probably has the most affordable rack rate in the CBD (parking is $25/day at the closest garage next to them though.. wound up having to park there when we stayed down the street  but you have in and out privileges and they seemed like one of the cheaper garages).Uber surges like a motherfucker in the quarter too, so that 9 miles will be $rape$... and the streets are narrow + jammed with people in the heart of it, so it winds up being faster to just walk to at least Canal St or something to meet them. everdave posted:Cool I will look. Not going to be there for 2 days. You have to valet your car there, unless you find a parking garage and walk a bit. I walked past it several times, the line just to get into the valets was horrible. Looked like a really nice place tho. Also, it's not too far from Cafe Du Monde. Their coffee (if you like chicory) and beignets are the perfect cure for a hangover, so long as you go during off peak times. Cash only and you pay when you order (the waitstaff go through a cafeteria-style line to get your order, and pay out of their pocket at the end of the line, just like a cafeteria customer.. crazy scene in there). CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Fender Anarchist - I admire you for coming out like you have and I hope everything goes well. This. Congrats on coming out FA, it's one of the most difficult things I ever did. ... I did have to chuckle out loud at "caught a case of the genders". Today's been kicking me in the nuts all day, I needed a chuckle. (e: I should mention I chuckled because of the phrasing, if it wasn't obvious) Queen Combat posted:Yeah, let's let employers fire them, landlords evict them, and cities refuse to service them. That's all superficial, don'tcha know?" This is still all legal in Texas, unless a city has passed laws specifically banning such practices. Only a handful have. Which, of course, Texas tried to ban cities from doing so (IIRC got struck down by the supreme court? not entirely sure). randomidiot fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Nov 8, 2018 |
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Most things were federally illegal under the definition (and trickle down umbrella) of Title IX protections that basically made gender conformity unenforceable, because gender conformity enforcement could basically became a form of sexual harassment. It was all executive interpretation. The harassment (firing because an AFAB presents as male or AMAB presents as female, or how NB or fluid people decide to) is inherently sexual in nature due to how society defines male and female, (and also why gender is a societal construct by its definition, that's not a takedown of gender or anything like pundits claim, it's just how communication works! A group decides to agree on a thing! That's a social construct!). You're looking at someone, saying whether or not they have certain secondary sexual characteristics, and judging their presentation based on that. Makes sense, and is why title IX applied. Trump is literally stripping those protections with that memo. That memo wasn't just a drat statement, it was a physical, real, effective attack. This isn't a hypothetical, it already happened. You can see why people are upset. Yes, title IX is specific to education institutions, but school is (should be) the backbone of society, and many departments carbon-copy those regulations wholesale. Because there are no laws offering specific protections, individual department policies have been what are carrying and allowing people to live in a society. And this just gives the areas that are looking for an excuse to create a new exclusionary norm a figurehead policy that starts and affects from the ground up. It's a literal "won't somebody think of the children?" scenario, but because the children are tomorrow's country and policymakers and thinkers. Yeah, places were already being lovely, like they had been (your Texas examples). But laws reflect the people, and the people are directly affected by institutional policy first. The cops get you because the gas station you were robbing called them first type of deal. People make the laws what they are. Queen Combat fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Nov 8, 2018 |
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STR posted:Cruz is known because of his presidential bid and gnashing with Trump, but not for much else. And maybe being the zodiac killer.
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Queen Combat posted:Yeah, places were already being lovely, like they had been (your Texas examples). But laws reflect the people, and the people are directly affected by institutional policy first. The cops get you because the gas station you were robbing called them first type of deal. People make the laws what they are. Only semi related, but ever since I put a rainbow Beto sticker on my car, I've noticed a lot more, I guess the best way to say it is, cop activity once I get into the suburb I live in. I get tailed a lot more, and I got pulled over for the first time in a decade the other day. Why? "You didn't signal long enough for that lane change". I give 3 full flashes before I start to change lanes, and 1-2 flashes after (I look like loving grandpa in that regard). I took it as a "you got my attention with that sticker, I'm gonna make sure everything is legal here for a bullshit reason since I have nothing better to do" stop. All my tags are current, all my lights work, my car is 100% legal, I just drive one of the only cars in town with peeling paint (probably one of the worst looking cars registered in town). Probably doesn't help that I'm driving a beater in an upper middle class city, in one of the most conservative counties in TX (I'm in the Austin area, but the counties and suburbs surrounding it are redder than Satan's ballsack after being curb stomped with spiked heels). Thankfully I only live less than a mile into this city. The rent difference between here and a mile down the road is astounding, though (several hundred a month just because the address is "Austin"). If I'm out of the house, I'm doing a hair under the speed limit into Austin for that ~1 mile and trying to recall every word my drivers' ed teacher told me some 25 years ago. randomidiot fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Nov 8, 2018 |
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mariooncrack posted:And maybe being the zodiac killer. What's this maybe poo poo?
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Voting is NOT mandatory even in Australia. What the law requires is for you to attend a polling booth and get your name marked off. You can draw dicks on the ballot paper if you want. You can vote for Lord Buckethead and then let your vote expire. All that fun and we still have the privledge of choosing between two fuckwits (if we actually tick a box).
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ExplodingSims posted:Hey guys, the government doesn't literally have a file marked LGBT Death Plans, Fig. A-G, so things cant be that bad, amirite? Seriously. The fact that the gubbmint is trying to change anyone's legal gender definition in THE LAND OF THE FREE, HOME OF THE BRAVE should be getting any true patriot's blood pressure up and questioning just what the hell is going on.
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Nov 8, 2018 11:24
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Gingerbread House Music posted:Guess you don't need a uterus to be hysterical. I mean... You're not good, but you're better than that...
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Nov 8, 2018 12:09
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meatpimp posted:I mean... You're not good, but you're better than that... Why bother when the people you're talking to can't even bother to try speaking like adults?
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Nov 8, 2018 12:26
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Gingerbread House Music posted:Why bother when the people you're talking to can't even bother to try speaking like adults? Perhaps this isn't the place for you and your earnest well thought out and researched posting? We'll miss you, don't forget to write.
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Nov 8, 2018 12:37
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nm posted:*Less than 30 minutes passes.* That'll teach me to decree everything's fine then immediately go to bed.
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The Royal Nonesuch posted:actual photograph of Adiabatic right now but with a .458 lott or whatever Wow don't doxx me and my beautiful hair, bro.
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Adiabatic posted:That'll teach me to decree everything's fine then immediately go to bed. It's okay, everything's fine.
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BraveUlysses posted:So you don't vote at all? You seemingly lack the ability to differentiate bad candidates from good because they're politicians but not all things we vote on are politicians running for office... So you'd be fine with me voting for Trump I suppose. Funny how that works, I'm an idiot for not voting, but if I voted for a candidate YOU don't like I'm even worse lol. Go ahead and think what you want I really don't care, I was just defending people like myself that chose not to vote this time  Also I'm going to teach my son to do whatever he feels like doing and I'm not going to hold it against him either way 
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Applebees Appetizer posted:So you'd be fine with me voting for Trump I suppose. Funny how that works, I'm an idiot for not voting, but if I voted for a candidate YOU don't like I'm even worse lol. I don't care how you vote, I think you should vote, though. It's a civic responsibility, even though it may seem unnecessary or without merit. As another election comes and goes and the results are the opposite of what the majority of the actual voters voted, it will put more pressure on "the system" to encourage reform.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Seriously. The fact that the gubbmint is trying to change anyone's legal gender definition in THE LAND OF THE FREE, HOME OF THE BRAVE should be getting any true patriot's blood pressure up and questioning just what the hell is going on. The MAGA chuds have co-opted the term "patriot". Any website or FB group advocating a societal regression to the 1950s does so in the name of "patriotism". I can't wait for the Boomers to die off.
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meatpimp posted:I don't care how you vote, I think you should vote, though. It's a civic responsibility, even though it may seem unnecessary or without merit. As another election comes and goes and the results are the opposite of what the majority of the actual voters voted, it will put more pressure on "the system" to encourage reform. I can appreciate that. What I don't appreciate is the hypocrites demanding me to vote and then criticizing me for voting left or right, calling me a Nazi or a special snowflake and how dare I vote for Dems/Rep. Lol I can't win.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:I can appreciate that. What I don't appreciate is the hypocrites demanding me to vote and then criticizing me for voting left or right, calling me a Nazi or a special snowflake and how dare I vote for Dems/Rep. Lol I can't win. I would personally appreciate less divisiveness on both sides, and more attempts at understanding why people think the way they do. However, intolerant folk will immediately jump down my throat about doing so and it's become a "Do I really care about this enough to spend the time to fight with someone about it" question. So little time and so many things I want to get done...
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You forgot "wasted vote", for when you vote for a third-party candidate.
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Adiabatic posted:I would personally appreciate less divisiveness on both sides, and more attempts at understanding why people think the way they do. However, intolerant folk will immediately jump down my throat about doing so and it's become a "Do I really care about this enough to spend the time to fight with someone about it" question. Agreed. It's got to the point where my wife and I refuse to discuss politics with anyone and nip it in the bud right away, not doing it. Dagen H posted:You forgot "wasted vote", for when you vote for a third-party candidate. Haha yes I did, thank you sir
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Queen Combat posted:Most things were federally illegal under the definition (and trickle down umbrella) of Title IX protections that basically made gender conformity unenforceable, because gender conformity enforcement could basically became a form of sexual harassment. It was all executive interpretation. The harassment (firing because an AFAB presents as male or AMAB presents as female, or how NB or fluid people decide to) is inherently sexual in nature due to how society defines male and female, (and also why gender is a societal construct by its definition, that's not a takedown of gender or anything like pundits claim, it's just how communication works! A group decides to agree on a thing! That's a social construct!). You're looking at someone, saying whether or not they have certain secondary sexual characteristics, and judging their presentation based on that. Makes sense, and is why title IX applied. The irony of title IX is that it's about 2 lines of statute that the court has blown way way WAY the gently caress out of proportion.
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