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Harlock posted:This feels weird to say but I dont even know if the Daleks would even mesh with the atmosphere and tone of this Doctor. Insofar as the season has gone I think you're probably 100% right. None of the Doctor's big bads would really fit in honestly, it's just not grim enough.
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Orv posted:Insofar as the season has gone I think you're probably 100% right. None of the Doctor's big bads would really fit in honestly, it's just not grim enough. Time to roll oit the Chumblies
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Nov 16, 2018 06:57
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Oh god, that reminds me of the lifesize cutout of captain jack i sent someone for dr who secret santa a few years back
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Nov 16, 2018 12:34
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Orv posted:Insofar as the season has gone I think you're probably 100% right. None of the Doctor's big bads would really fit in honestly, it's just not grim enough. Sontarans, except they are ALL Strax.
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Nov 16, 2018 13:26
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Dongicus posted:Bill+nardole > current group you motherfucker
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Wheat Loaf posted:Sontarans, except they are ALL Strax. I'm down with this.
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BSam posted:dr who secret santa  I knew I meant to do something
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Wheat Loaf posted:Sontarans, except they are ALL Strax. Going with my earlier idea of a small-scale returning alien: Sontarans, except it's just Strax. To be serious, I feel like there's potential in a story with a single Sontaran as a villain, but I don't know what the plot would be since we've already had an episode that was basically Predator.
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A Christmas episode this year would reveal that Meadowhall does indeed house the gateway to hell in DecemberThe_Doctor posted:Ah, it was Paul McGann’s birthday yesterday! I will always appreciate the fact that he now plays an evil doctor in Holby City. I dunno what he did exactly but he's a big rotter on there
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McDragon posted:A Christmas episode this year would reveal that Meadowhall does indeed house the gateway to hell in December I believe his character gave someone brain damage in order to stop them disrupting his research. He'd make a decent Who antagonist.
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McDragon posted:A Christmas episode this year would reveal that Meadowhall does indeed house the gateway to hell in December Just December?
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Cleretic posted:Going with my earlier idea of a small-scale returning alien: Sontarans, except it's just Strax. The first two Sontaran stories are just a single Sontaran as the villain, mostly because they just had the one mask. In fact, I think the only other classic Sontaran stories involve the goofy tall ones.
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Soothing Vapors posted:you motherfucker graham is very good do not get me wrong
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Cleretic posted:Going with my earlier idea of a small-scale returning alien: Sontarans, except it's just Strax. You just reminded me that series 4 had an episode where the antagonist was a techbro from the states who wasn't as smart as he thought he was, who attempted to conquer the world using self-driving cars in the interests of his interplanetary travel fixation. truly rtd was a prophet of our age
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Not only that, it was in a Helen Raynor story, just a year after she'd been raked through the coals for the impossible task of trying to write Daleks in Manhattan.
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Bicyclops posted:In fact, I think the only other classic Sontaran stories involve the goofy tall ones. Yes, it's half and half: "The Time Warrior" and "The Sontaran Experiment" had the same short Sontarans; "The Invasion of Time" and "The Two Doctors" have the ones that are vulnerable against deckchairs.
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TinTower posted:Just December? It just opens in December and lets all the evil out for the year
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Whybird posted:You just reminded me that series 4 had an episode where the antagonist was a techbro from the states who wasn't as smart as he thought he was, who attempted to conquer the world using self-driving cars in the interests of his interplanetary travel fixation. I've softened a lot on that two-parter. It's written by the same woman who wrote Daleks in Manhattan and it has some similar "trying to do too much" going on, but at least it isn't quite so bizarrely badly designed and terrible at understanding its setting. It is really fun to watch the Doctor goad the little tech bro genius, even if all the clone batch stuff is nonsense. I still think, though, that the RTD years, it's a huge waste to do a Sontaran two-parter and not have the cliffhanger being David Tennant, after stopping the Sontaran fleet, realiize it was a set-up and say "Oh no. Oh no! It's the Rutans!" It's exactly the kind of silly, over-the-top nonsense twist he was so good at making fun.
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Bicyclops posted:I've softened a lot on that two-parter. It's written by the same woman who wrote Daleks in Manhattan and it has some similar "trying to do too much" going on, but at least it isn't quite so bizarrely badly designed and terrible at understanding its setting. It is really fun to watch the Doctor goad the little tech bro genius, even if all the clone batch stuff is nonsense. But Martha was in that episode? 
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"...Dad being Brad."  These guys will never be able to resist the Big Finish Lunches.
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There's some cool stuff in that Sontaran two-parter, and a lot a lot a lot of nonsense. But as far as I'm concerned its biggest crime is the crazy lighting.  
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Yeah, not that Helen Raynor's writing is strong, but the direction really, really doesn't help either of her two-parters.
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Has the full version of the memo where Sydney Newman suggested a female doctor ever resurfaced? I remember seeing longer excerpts in an old making of book, and in addition to the lady doc idea there were also notes about deemphasising over the top lethal alien threats (plus some harsh words about the violence of JNT era), making the TARDIS crew a kind of family unit, and doing more historical adventures with an educational bent. The reboot we have now is very similar to the reboot he suggested in the late 80s.
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The_Doctor posted:Only twice by my count? Sycorax and the Racnoss ship? The special after that had the Doctor use the TARDIS to change the weather, leading him to comment "one of these days it'll snow for real." They might be mixing it up with that.
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Nov 17, 2018 02:48
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It was ballast from the Titanic.
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Bicyclops posted:Yeah, not that Helen Raynor's writing is strong, but the direction really, really doesn't help either of her two-parters. RTDera.txt
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Everybody is entitled to their opinion but I don't know how people could have not enjoyed the Sontaran 2-parter in season 4, it's great. The Sontarans do a haka for God's sake! They call Bradley Walsh "dad"
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After The War posted:RTDera.txt Yeah.
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I love the crazy lighting in the Sontaran two-parter. If not in Doctor Who, then where?
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:I love the crazy lighting in the Sontaran two-parter. If not in Doctor Who, then where? That nightclub in Hitchhiker's where wall nozzles spray sweat on you while robots scream at you to dance? I do remember the lighting looking pretty bomb in the sequence where Martha gets out of that bathtub though. And I respect that it was a valiant attempt to make a lovely looking factory look less poo poo. But no, for the most part, no.
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The lighting was all very Joel Schumacher’s Batman.
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Ok, I finally nailed down my problem with this new Doctor (and its a criticism of the writing, not the Jodie). I can’t remember if it’s a canonical description of Ozma of Oz, but the phrase “she is Good, but not always Nice” is stuck in my memory. And to me that’s important for the Doctor. I know Jodie can nail it, so I want the writers to give it to her. I like her happy optimism, but I want to see more of the danger of thwarting it. She came close, in this last episode, but I want to see why you should not cross her.
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Oh, I actually genuinely enjoyed the Sontaran two-parter, I just think it's brilliant that RTD somehow managed to predict Elon Musk.
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navyjack posted:Ok, I finally nailed down my problem with this new Doctor (and its a criticism of the writing, not the Jodie). I can’t remember if it’s a canonical description of Ozma of Oz, but the phrase “she is Good, but not always Nice” is stuck in my memory. And to me that’s important for the Doctor. I know Jodie can nail it, so I want the writers to give it to her. I like her happy optimism, but I want to see more of the danger of thwarting it. She came close, in this last episode, but I want to see why you should not cross her. After, like, four doctors who were constantly on the verge of an apocalyptic loss of temper (which, don't get me wrong, I enjoyed), I'm actually kind of glad they've backed off in favor of something different.
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I feel like there’s a bit of a Five embodiment. Almost generically nice, three companions...
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The_Doctor posted:I feel like there’s a bit of a Five embodiment. Almost generically nice, three companions... Yeah, I think there are some comparisons to be made (though having watched some Five stuff recently, he's a lot more brittle around the edges than I remember). To me, what exemplifies Thirteen so far is that she's just so drat happy to be alive and doing Doctor stuff with her new best friends. Which, coming off of Twelve's desire to just be done with everything at the end, is a really interesting direction to move in. I love it, but I do agree that I'd like to see more of what makes this particular Doctor tick.
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