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sandoz
Jan 29, 2009


um excuse me posted:

Do any manual cars come with an electronic hand brake? Because oops if they do.

yeah the new Si does, but the always-on hill hold system works perfectly

only thing i will miss is handbrake turns at 10mph in the snow i guess

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Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!

STR posted:

somethingsomething Chrysler FWD transmissions :v:

NVT series is quite stout. :colbert:

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

MetaJew posted:


Can I get a citation or link for the legality in Texas. I want to start an argument with my coworker.

https://texas.public.law/statutes/tex._transp._code_section_545.406

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!

code:
Texas Transportation Code 
Sec. 545.406 
Coasting
    (a) An operator moving on a downgrade may not coast with the gears or transmission of the vehicle in neutral.
    (b) An operator of a truck, tractor, or bus moving on a downgrade may not coast with the clutch disengaged.
Oh boy. I can see the thread now. He's going to argue that because he's coasting on flat ground and not downhill, it's not illegal.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

MetaJew posted:

code:
Texas Transportation Code 
Sec. 545.406 
Coasting
    (a) An operator moving on a downgrade may not coast with the gears or transmission of the vehicle in neutral.
    (b) An operator of a truck, tractor, or bus moving on a downgrade may not coast with the clutch disengaged.
Oh boy. I can see the thread now. He's going to argue that because he's coasting on flat ground and not downhill, it's not illegal.

So heading up to the stoplight one needs to downshift into first and some how hold it there until stationary?

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

STR posted:

I think Nissan (and maybe Toyota) are the only ones selling pickups with manuals here, and only on their smaller offerings. At least Nissan will let you option a Frontier with a V6 and 6 speed. :getin: If Toyota's still offering anything with one, it's very likely a poverty spec Tacoma.


I only discovered this about a week ago, but you can still buy a Dodge Ram with the 6.7L I6 diesel and a 6speed manual.

I’d imagine that the take rate must be rapidly approaching zero percent. I don’t think I’ve ever seen one in the wild.

StormDrain
May 22, 2003

Thirteen Letter

Colostomy Bag posted:

So heading up to the stoplight one needs to downshift into first and some how hold it there until stationary?

Only if it’s downhill.

Seriously how would this be enforced?

StormDrain
May 22, 2003

Thirteen Letter

MrYenko posted:

I only discovered this about a week ago, but you can still buy a Dodge Ram with the 6.7L I6 diesel and a 6speed manual.

I’d imagine that the take rate must be rapidly approaching zero percent. I don’t think I’ve ever seen one in the wild.

Is it still detuned from the auto version? I don’t think they could warranty the clutch at full whack.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


MrYenko posted:

I only discovered this about a week ago, but you can still buy a Dodge Ram with the 6.7L I6 diesel and a 6speed manual.

I’d imagine that the take rate must be rapidly approaching zero percent. I don’t think I’ve ever seen one in the wild.

The take rate better be fuckin zero because the G56 transmission is a garbage, even more so than the 65RFE which is pretty much just a hosed up torqueflite

Ordering a ram 2500/3500 with the G56 manual limits you to 350hp/660ftlbs. Ordering it with the 68RFE limits you to 370hp/800ft/lbs. You need to order the Aisin 6 speed to get the full 410hp/930ft/lbs

StormDrain posted:

Is it still detuned from the auto version? I don’t think they could warranty the clutch at full whack.

It's not the clutch, it's the aluminum case of the G56 that twists and allows gears to interface in all sorts of naughty ways.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

StormDrain posted:

Is it still detuned from the auto version? I don’t think they could warranty the clutch at full whack.

Quite a bit.

quote:

The 6.7L Cummins® Turbo Diesel engine delivers 385 horsepower and 930 lb-ft of torque when paired with the Aisin Six-speed automatic transmission; 370 horsepower and 800 lb-ft of torque when paired with the Six-speed automatic 68RFE transmission; 350 horsepower and 660 lb-ft of torque when paired with the Six-speed manual G56 transmission.

:eyepop:

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


MrYenko posted:

Quite a bit.


:eyepop:

You can't tune it much before the clutch slips, either. The clutch torque holding margin is razor thin to stop you from lunching the trans if you hork on it.

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!

Colostomy Bag posted:

So heading up to the stoplight one needs to downshift into first and some how hold it there until stationary?

No, as an example, we're going southbound on a feeder road and our office is just after a stop light, on the right. The speedlimit is 50 MPH. He will be driving, in 5 or 6th gear at 55-60 MPH, go through the light, and then put it into neutral, let out the clutch, and coast the half-mile or so to the entrance to our office.

When he leaves the parking garage, he'll lug it around in third gear.

Hugh G. Rectum
Mar 1, 2011

MetaJew posted:

No, as an example, we're going southbound on a feeder road and our office is just after a stop light, on the right. The speedlimit is 50 MPH. He will be driving, in 5 or 6th gear at 55-60 MPH, go through the light, and then put it into neutral, let out the clutch, and coast the half-mile or so to the entrance to our office.

When he leaves the parking garage, he'll lug it around in third gear.

God dammit I've got a friend who does this same thing and it drives me up the wall. Even worse he sucks rear end at rev-matching so he will throw it into gear without using the throttle at all with a huge lurch. If he had just left it in gear he wouldn't have had to rev match at all! He also will rev it to the moon and slip the clutch until he's going nearly 20mph too. I've tried to teach him how to do it properly so many loving times but it just won't stick. He'll do it right for like 10 minutes before going back to his old ways. Even worse he's convinced that letting it coast in neutral idling is using less gas than engine braking down a hill. Just talking about it is getting me frustrated.

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
I can't heel toe. Im the terrible driver. I engine brake until the revs drop below 2k, use the brake the rest of the way, then downshift and rev match after I get off the brake.

I've tried learning but I always end up stabbing the brake when I go to blip the throttle.

um excuse me fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Nov 17, 2018

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
You probably just need a gas pedal extension or riser, a lot of cars are loving difficult or downright impossible to do consistently in deep braking with stock pedal placement.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
Subaru hasn't changed pedal placement much over the years but i have not driven a current wrx. It's def pedal placement and foot size and footwear dependant. I could not heel toe an older mustang very well and have big feet. In my subaru, it's a bit of a reach barefoot, i don't get great feel in boots, and I actually prefer my thin soled running shoes to puma speedcats because they're wider.

jamal fucked around with this message at 08:33 on Nov 17, 2018

MikeyTsi
Jan 11, 2009

Powershift posted:

how about maybe shut the gently caress up, the UK and US both suck rear end




apparently customer added 27 liters of coolant to the crank case, a new record.

My milkshake, brings the mechanics to the yard, drat right, it's broken AF.

Previa_fun
Nov 10, 2004

um excuse me posted:

I can't heel toe. Im the terrible driver. I engine brake until the revs drop below 2k, use the brake the rest of the way, then downshift and rev match after I get off the brake.

I've tried learning but I always end up stabbing the brake when I go to blip the throttle.

Heel toe is a lot more applicable to a track environment where you're already on the brakes hard anyway.

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

um excuse me posted:

Do any manual cars come with an electronic hand brake? Because oops if they do.

I would suspect that any manual car with an electronic park brake also has hill assist

Wrar
Sep 9, 2002


Soiled Meat

jamal posted:

Subaru hasn't changed pedal placement much over the years but i have not driven a current wrx. It's def pedal placement and foot size and footwear dependant. I could not heel toe an older mustang very well and have big feet. In my subaru, it's a bit of a reach barefoot, i don't get great feel in boots, and I actually prefer my thin soled running shoes to puma speedcats because they're wider.

Ford is notorious about placing the gas pedal much lower than the brake pedal. There are aftermarket parts to either raise it or widen it.

I'm partial to Mazda and Honda pedal boxes myself, and BMWs tend to be very good too.

Wrar fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Nov 17, 2018

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


MikeyTsi posted:

My milkshake, brings the mechanics to the yard, drat right, it's broken AF.

And mechs like 'i hope it's not yours'

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.



Humphreys posted:

And mechs like 'i hope it's not yours'

I could fix it, but I'd have to charge.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Guinness posted:

Is this the poo poo that Smart ForTwos have for their poo poo-rear end transmission?

I swear those dreadful pieces of crap feel like a drunk toddler trying to drive a stick for the first time.

They are terrible for so many reasons, but their horrendous "automated manual" transmission is absolutely the worst. Probably made worse by the fact that the only ones I've driven have all been abused Car2Gos, but still.

Even a brand-new 1st gen smart car shifted like that. Those gearboxes are positively dangerous.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


drgitlin posted:

Even a brand-new 1st gen smart car shifted like that. Those gearboxes are positively dangerous.

They have got to be the most hateful car to drive ever. Add to that the Car2go business model of charging by the minute which encourages you to cane on it as hard as you can and it's like sado-masochism in car form.

Shrapnig
Jan 21, 2005

jamal posted:

Subaru hasn't changed pedal placement much over the years but i have not driven a current wrx. It's def pedal placement and foot size and footwear dependant. I could not heel toe an older mustang very well and have big feet. In my subaru, it's a bit of a reach barefoot, i don't get great feel in boots, and I actually prefer my thin soled running shoes to puma speedcats because they're wider.

My '11 WRX and current '15 STI feel pretty much the same as far as pedal distance. It's absolutely footwear dependent though. I stalled the car a couple times in one day a few weeks ago and I didn't do anything different other than wearing a pair of shoes I hadn't worn in months that made me feel like I was putting more pressure on the clutch than I actually was for some reason.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


https://i.imgur.com/yNNT27r.mp4

"I can't believe so many people showed up to see me drive down this completely unused road!"

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

It's always a black Grand Cherokee.

Always.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Powershift posted:

https://i.imgur.com/yNNT27r.mp4

"I can't believe so many people showed up to see me drive down this completely unused road!"

That was Indy 500 winner Alexander Rossi driving the Honda truck, to boot

Shrapnig
Jan 21, 2005

The timing of it and where the Jeep was on the road makes me wonder if they were there trying to film the jump(officially) and the truck was further right than anticipated on said jump.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
nah, standard baja shitshow

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

So where's the video of the crowd dragging dumbass out of his Jeep and murdering him?

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe

Finger Prince posted:

They have got to be the most hateful car to drive ever. Add to that the Car2go business model of charging by the minute which encourages you to cane on it as hard as you can and it's like sado-masochism in car form.

Last summer people kept abandoning those Car2Go Smarts on my street. I saw one on the way to work in the morning that had been left out on the rain for 2 days with the windows rolled down all the way.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

Chris Knight posted:

Last summer people kept abandoning those Car2Go Smarts on my street. I saw one on the way to work in the morning that had been left out on the rain for 2 days with the windows rolled down all the way.

One of the local tow yards has the contract for Car2Go, they have a special rack setup in the corner of their yard where they shelve all the smashed ForTwos.

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



Thief posted:

edit: also fwiw the honda oddessy was banned from online play in the recent forza game's multiplayer because people were griefing with it's insane engine options

In nyc at least the (((Honda Odyssey))) is known as the Hasid vehicle of choice for whatever reason

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Finger Prince posted:

They have got to be the most hateful car to drive ever. Add to that the Car2go business model of charging by the minute which encourages you to cane on it as hard as you can and it's like sado-masochism in car form.

In Austin, they did away with those pieces of crap, and replaced them with more expensive crap. Mercedes CLAs and GLAs only.

They also have a contract with the city to tow on sight if you park in a Car2Go space on a public street. Learned that one the hard way (thank gently caress before the tow truck showed up... I used a space for <5 minutes to make a delivery, came out to find a cop... he told me I can park wherever the hell I want for a few minutes if I have a delivery sign and aren't a dick, EXCEPT for those spaces - they have absolutely no leeway unless the vehicle operator shows up before the tow truck).

Powershift posted:

https://i.imgur.com/yNNT27r.mp4

"I can't believe so many people showed up to see me drive down this completely unused road!"

That mirror got some hella distance!

MrYenko posted:

I only discovered this about a week ago, but you can still buy a Dodge Ram with the 6.7L I6 diesel and a 6speed manual.

I’d imagine that the take rate must be rapidly approaching zero percent. I don’t think I’ve ever seen one in the wild.

poo poo, I completely forgot about that. I think you have to basically do a stripper model to get the combo, though, right? Plus all the massive detuning they do.

What transmission did they use in the V10 Ram? I wonder if it would hold up to the full 900+ ft/lbs... or if the gears would :frogout: the moment you stomped it.

I also forgot Ram now sells the 1500 with a diesel. Apparently a neighbor has one. Walked past it yesterday while it was idling (he'd just parked, I think)... "huh, that doesn't look like a 2500, why does it sound like a diesel?", then saw the 1500 and EcoDiesel tags. fake edit: just googled, been available since the 2014 year model :stare: - I've never seen one before.

It was surprisingly quiet.

MetaJew posted:

No, as an example, we're going southbound on a feeder road and our office is just after a stop light, on the right. The speedlimit is 50 MPH. He will be driving, in 5 or 6th gear at 55-60 MPH, go through the light, and then put it into neutral, let out the clutch, and coast the half-mile or so to the entrance to our office.

He's wasting gas if it's anything with electronic fuel injection. If he'd just leave it in gear and coast the half mile, giving it a little gas when needed, the ECU will cut fuel entirely while coasting until you get below a set RPM. And yes, this will be in his owner's manual.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Powershift posted:

https://i.imgur.com/yNNT27r.mp4

"I can't believe so many people showed up to see me drive down this completely unused road!"

The morons in the Jeep almost got death proof-ed right there

Saukkis
May 16, 2003

Unless I'm on the inside curve pointing straight at oncoming traffic the high beams stay on and I laugh at your puny protest flashes.
I am Most Important Man. Most Important Man in the World.

STR posted:

He's wasting gas if it's anything with electronic fuel injection. If he'd just leave it in gear and coast the half mile, giving it a little gas when needed, the ECU will cut fuel entirely while coasting until you get below a set RPM. And yes, this will be in his owner's manual.

I'm not sure if that applies always. I have a 2002 model Saab 9-3 with the fancier Trionic 7 ECU and based on the OBD-II data it doesn't seem to cut fuel flow. ODB is still showing fuel flow when I'm engine braking and if I disengage clutch the fuel flow reduces.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


I hadn't seen a new silverado with a chrome bumper yet



uhghhghghhhgh

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

i think the hood on that is taller than my car's roof

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the poi
Oct 24, 2004

turbo volvo, wooooo!
Grimey Drawer

Sagebrush posted:

i think the hood on that is taller than my car's roof

How in the world are you supposed to drive that. Look at that dude's eyeline, he can't see poo poo for like 40 feet in front of the hood.

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