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Axetrain posted:I could never finish GTA V, the characters and the setting are just so extremely unlikable. Maybe it was because it was coming off the heels of GTA IV (which had some of the most unlikable, insufferable characters ever written) but I found the ones in V weren't that bad. Michael and Frank were at least relatable and I guess Trevor was the Breaking Bad pop culture tie in. Most of the minor and side characters also acted human for the most part. The series does much better when it knows it's satirical and hams it up. The Ballad of Gay Tony at least was able to salvage a bit of what they had built for Liberty City and helped prove that going all Grim Dark Serious Crime Drama Head Up Your Own rear end story telling is not what people play these games for.
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Captain Gordon posted:It was fun watching goons slowly turn into No Mutants Allowed, but I think its time to go back and play a good game, Fallout 76 TODD!!!!!
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Nov 27, 2018 20:31
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also, lol if you can't see why people say FO76 is garbage
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Nov 27, 2018 20:32
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GTA sucks, Saints Row (RIP) forever
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Nov 27, 2018 20:32
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f76 is a bad asset flip. im sorry for my meltdown
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Nov 27, 2018 20:34
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:GTA sucks, Saints Row (RIP) forever
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the only good Saints Row was SR2
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Feels Villeneuve posted:the only good Saints Row was SR2 3 & 4 were still good but 2 was a sloppy masterpiece.
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EVIL Gibson posted:I'm repeating this because I think you need to explain how D2 is not even more gated as BL2. Maybe I'm just looking at it with rose-colored glasses because the drop rates in D2 aren't horrible and you can actually dodge attacks
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Feels Villeneuve posted:the only good Saints Row was SR2 2 and 4,god i wish they'd reboot the series and keep 4's graphics throughout and unfuck 3.
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Nov 27, 2018 20:50
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KrunkMcGrunk posted:also, lol if you can't see why people say FO76 is garbage It's the weirdest attitude to pretend that everybody complaining are just doing it to troll and don't have valid issues.
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Nov 27, 2018 21:12
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Fallout 76 is the best game ever made mad? U MAD??? I BET UR NAD!!1
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KirbyKhan posted:The most effective joke in GTA5 is that they modeled amd recreated the LA subway system in game. It is fully functional. There are no npcs, there is nothing directing you to go in there. Just like the real LA Subway. Not sure what part of LA you commute but the Red Line is a cluttered poo poo hole.
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Nov 27, 2018 21:22
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Yardbomb posted:Nothing wrong with that really, a big logo or other unavoidable "BTW THIS WAS MADE BY" slapped onto things can take away from the otherwise neat looking thing. This holds up until you remember that the only stuff where people are uncomfortable with wearing the branding is for products and companies they should rightfully be ashamed of
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Rinkles posted:feels miserable logging off after working on a workshop May want to use the batteries not included perk card to reduce fusion core weight to .3.
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KrunkMcGrunk posted:also, lol if you can't see why people say FO76 is garbage It's easy to see why FO76 is garbage but that doesn't stop people from having bad opinions about why it's garbage. It also doesn't excuse how goons are seemingly perplexed how people can find fun in this buggy mess even though that's literally how you have to play every single Bethesda game out there.
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s.i.r.e. posted:Not sure what part of LA you commute but the Red Line is a cluttered poo poo hole. What up Purple Line step-brother. Yeah, Red Line gets packed like any other real city. But from the perspective of a satire videogame, that first experience of stumbling into the San Andreas Ktown block subway station, only one NPC sitting next to a wall, was the finest joke made exclusively for me in the game. I hopped over the turnstyle, I think it beeped and like irl nothing happened. A lot of this might be a manufactured fake memory. F76 so bad it makes me think less of all the videogames I have ever played in my life.
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Bholder posted:It's easy to see why FO76 is garbage but that doesn't stop people from having bad opinions about why it's garbage. Theres a ratio of good to bad. This doubles the bad and removes the good. Its not impossible to have fun, you just need an extremely high tolerance for bullshit. Whether or not my reasons for not eating lead paint are valid im still going to mock those who continue to shovel paint flakes into their gullet.
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KirbyKhan posted:What up Purple Line step-brother. Yeah, Red Line gets packed like any other real city. But from the perspective of a satire videogame, that first experience of stumbling into the San Andreas Ktown block subway station, only one NPC sitting next to a wall, was the finest joke made exclusively for me in the game. I hopped over the turnstyle, I think it beeped and like irl nothing happened. I've never been on the Purple so if this is true I'm blown away, but I really shouldn't be considering LA is misery.
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Bholder posted:It's easy to see why FO76 is garbage but that doesn't stop people from having bad opinions about why it's garbage. Not everybody is willing to eat several tons of poo poo just to get to the occasional tasty peanut. Bethesda put out a buggy, asset flipping cash grab and they are getting rightfully roasted for it.
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Nov 27, 2018 21:42
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Fallout 76 : gamedevs roasting on an open fire....
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browsers castle posted:Bethesda is good at what they do. Lmaolmao
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ZeusCannon posted:Lmaolmao I mean, the only reason anyone is still taking up with their poo poo is because they are still the best when it comes to open world design.
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Bholder posted:I mean, the only reason anyone is still taking up with their poo poo is because they are still the best when it comes to open world design. This would maybe have been a true post in 2010.
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Bholder posted:I mean, the only reason anyone is still taking up with their poo poo is because they are still the best when it comes to open world design. Stockholm Syndrome
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checked for myself: for purposes of damage boosting by perk, the .308 pipe pistol still counts as a pistol not rifle when you change the stock from a grip (despite this changing the name of the gun to "rifle"). haven't tested other guns yet. pretty sure fo4 handled it differently. happy about the stash increase. dumping stimpacks to make space felt gross. Tenzarin posted:May want to use the batteries not included perk card to reduce fusion core weight to .3. good to know, thanks (the perk's actually called batteries included just fyi)
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Feels Villeneuve posted:This would maybe have been a true post in 2010. that's true. and i think that's also part of why people put up with bugs in bethesda's games. their games were a known quantity and they broke a lot of ground in creating a seemless world to explore. which was a very hard thing to find pre-2010 in a single-player game. but other studios have caught up. and bethesda's flaws are become more apparent when there are competitors to compared their work to. i mean, i loved FO3 when it came out, but New Vegas quickly overtook it in my mind, because i saw all the things FO3 lacked or didn't get right. also FO76 is pretty full of re-used assets and bugs from their old games and its pretty light on gameplay systems--all things which could have been addressed if the game were given more development time. maybe it's not true that bethesda put in half-effort with FO76, but the way the game released, it sure feels like it. and it feels like they don't care about the source material or making a good product for their audience, so they're getting hammered for it. KrunkMcGrunk fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Nov 27, 2018 |
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EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A GAME DISC INTO THE SLOT. ITS FALLOUT 76 AND ITS A CARDBOARD DISK AND I THINK I JUST BROKE MY COMPUTER gently caress
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Bholder posted:It's easy to see why FO76 is garbage but that doesn't stop people from having bad opinions about why it's garbage. Alright, I'll bite. What are the bad opinions about Fallout 76 being garbage?
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browsers castle posted:Bethesda is good at what they do. fuckin up? 
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If they somehow get through the GRRM novel sized list of bugs and fix them all, the in-game systems will still be broken on a fundamental level. It just (doesn't) work.
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KrunkMcGrunk posted:that's true. and i think that's also part of why people put up with bugs in bethesda's games. their games were a known quantity and they broke a lot of ground in creating a seemless world to explore. which was a very hard thing to find pre-2010 in a single-player game. They didn't though. Open world games are big right now but none of them are that comparable to Bethesda's titles. Most of them tend to follow the Ubisoft formula which just litters the worldmap with really surface level busywork to make it bigger. Games like New Vegas and Witcher 3 are not built around the open world, in fact I would argue it's the weakest part in both games, it just meant to funnel you to the good part of those games: the quests which are dynamic, well written and actually give some life to the game, without them those games would be really shallow. There are some really deep intricacies that even I don't understand when it comes to the differences because even Bethesda games rely greatly on quests and collectibles, but I guess the best way to explain is that with Bethesda games it really feels like they design the world first then put the story elements into it rather than the other way around. It's one of the reasons I can think of why one of things people boast about when playing Bethesda games is to ignore the main quest for 100 hours.
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Gobblecoque posted:Alright, I'll bite. What are the bad opinions about Fallout 76 being garbage? Look man, I know you mean well. But this thread is 95% people that have never played the game and are just laughing at it. Because a bad game is a funny joke? I guess? I'm having a hard time imagining the type of person that would like, full on belly laugh at the thought of a game being bad. "OMG THERES A BUG LMAAAAAAOOOOOOO" like what?
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Gobblecoque posted:Alright, I'll bite. What are the bad opinions about Fallout 76 being garbage? NPCs won't make it better for one
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Bethesda is not a competitive developer anymore. Open World/RPGlite systems are the backbone of every game from Far cry to God of War to RDR to Horizon Zero Dawn. These games are better looking, with better mini games, better characters and combat and writing and design. In every way Bethesda is outdone. As an RPG their games do not compete with cdpr, obsidian, and haven't for a long time. There's just nothing they excel at, and it's becoming very obvious, and they either should hang up their Dev hats or completely overhaul. Instead they seem hell-bent on puttering along just as they have been.
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