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Cyrano4747 posted:Sure but it doesn’t make slapping those stickers around after breaking poo poo any less stupid and ugly. i know you know that stupid and ugly poo poo is just as possible (more possible?) from the bottom up as from the top down, because you and i took the same courses in grad school. things do not have to be a capital c conspiracy to be terrible. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Dec 1, 2018 |
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ChubbyChecker posted:Re: de Gaulle; he and Churchill had quite a buddy cop movie relationship.
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Fangz posted:well let me tell you about the times I was yelled at in school then to prove a point to you strangers on the internet about how I learned the true nature of society It was meant to be a funny story about an adult who got embarrassed because they couldn't answer a child's question. I promise you I wasn't trying to prove any political point with it at all.
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Mr Enderby posted:It was meant to be a funny story about an adult who got embarrassed because they couldn't answer a child's question. I promise you I wasn't trying to prove any political point with it at all. i think we're all on edge due to the political climate, and i hope we can remain friends despite our disagreements
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Mr Enderby posted:It was meant to be a funny story about an adult who got embarrassed because they couldn't answer a child's question. I promise you I wasn't trying to prove any political point with it at all. Sorry, I kinda automatically empathized with poor schmucks that have to do some dumb public facing thing that was never what they signed on to do, reading from a script that these kids don't give a poo poo about anyway, and there's one smartarse kid that just wants to waste everyone's time by making them explain the dubious rationale behind the war on drugs to fifty kids that want to go home
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Fangz posted:Sorry, I kinda automatically empathized with poor schmucks that have to do some dumb public facing thing that was never what they signed on to do, reading from a script that these kids don't give a poo poo about anyway, and there's one smartarse kid that just wants to waste everyone's time by making them explain the dubious rationale behind the war on drugs to fifty kids that want to go home If it's any consolation the met are a pack of shits so wasting their time is good.
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But think of the children.
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I don’t know too much about De Gaulle but I do know that FDR loving hated him so I’m going to go with that.
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Marxist-Jezzinist posted:If it's any consolation the met are a pack of shits so wasting their time is good. Bastards shot chewbacca
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The worst cop sticker I ever came across was given to me by a friend from Sydney, it says COPS ARE TOPS in huge white letters 
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SeanBeansShako posted:Bastards shot chewbacca No, he died with Han when the Falcon crashed on Earth. Indy found them. E: Oops, he didn't. 
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How many medieval castles are poo poo? Like not every podunk impoverished noble can have had the wherewithal to hire a builder who knew what he was doing. Has someone ever compiled numbers on how many of them were just kinda crap as fortifications?
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ChubbyChecker posted:'He felt it was essential to his position before the French people that he should maintain a proud and haughty demeanour towards "perfidious Albion", although in exile, dependent upon our protection and dwelling in our midst. He had to be rude to the British to prove to French eyes that he was not a British puppet. He certainly carried out this policy with perseverance.' This is the crux of it IMO. De Gaulle was horrifyingly rude to all of the other allies and insisted that everything he did was for the Honour of France, which I'm pretty sure is the same thing as the Pride of Charles in his head. He pissed off pretty much every high ranking Allied commander going, only Churchill really liked him and Churchill spend half the war having daft romantic ideas. If you read the quote on Churchill from him you will notice it claims he's always right and Churchill is always wrong. He told Leclerc to disobey orders and make a run for Paris, the demanded a victory parade while fighting was basically still ongoing. He demanded a post war occupation zone the France couldn't really afford and renounced an AMGOT for France until everything was sorted out because he was government enough. He left NATO integrated command because he didn't want to cooperate with people while not leaving NATO because he still wanted everyone to come to his aid if France were attacked. He wouldn't allow the UK to join the EEC because reasons. Nothing he did really helped France in the long run, he just made them feel good. He also seized power in a coup de etat, which people tend to forget. gently caress I hate Charles De Gaulle.
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Schadenboner posted:No, he died with Han when the Falcon crashed on Earth. Indy found them. Less upset at the premise and more at the art
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FrangibleCover posted:Churchill spend all of both wars having daft romantic ideas Fixed that for you
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Trin Tragula posted:Fixed that for you which is why clement atlee admired him.
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aphid_licker posted:How many medieval castles are poo poo? Like not every podunk impoverished noble can have had the wherewithal to hire a builder who knew what he was doing. Has someone ever compiled numbers on how many of them were just kinda crap as fortifications? I wrote some welsh castle posts in the last iteration of the thread - I am just driving up to Bletchley park of all places then will give my big old list of good and crap castles in north wales.
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How did Britain and France go from traditional enemies up to the Napoleonic wars (and beyond?) to firm allies by WW1?
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Vaginal Vagrant posted:How did Britain and France go from traditional enemies up to the Napoleonic wars (and beyond?) to firm allies by WW1? Because Willie 2 hosed up diplomacy.
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ChubbyChecker posted:Because Willie 2 hosed up diplomacy. Process started earlier than that. Mostly to keep ze Germans/Russians in check. They teamed up in the 1850s to try and save the Ottomans in the Crimean War, and talked about intervening in the ACW. They also teamed up to protect their loans in Mexico, although they had a falling out over installing Maximillian. Bismarck was able to get his expansion done while they were at odds with each other, but German naval race and desire for that sausage factory in Tanganyika pushed France and Britain back together pretty quick. Once they managed to settle their colonial borders with each other, that is.
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FrangibleCover posted:This is the crux of it IMO. De Gaulle was horrifyingly rude to all of the other allies and insisted that everything he did was for the Honour of France, which I'm pretty sure is the same thing as the Pride of Charles in his head. He pissed off pretty much every high ranking Allied commander going, only Churchill really liked him and Churchill spend half the war having daft romantic ideas. If you read the quote on Churchill from him you will notice it claims he's always right and Churchill is always wrong. He told Leclerc to disobey orders and make a run for Paris, the demanded a victory parade while fighting was basically still ongoing. He demanded a post war occupation zone the France couldn't really afford and renounced an AMGOT for France until everything was sorted out because he was government enough. He left NATO integrated command because he didn't want to cooperate with people while not leaving NATO because he still wanted everyone to come to his aid if France were attacked. He wouldn't allow the UK to join the EEC because reasons. Nothing he did really helped France in the long run, he just made them feel good. Yeah, he was an rear end in a top hat, but his genocide victims aren't counted in millions, unlike Churchill's and Stalin's.
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HEY GUNS posted:which is why clement atlee admired him. Clem was our best and most overrated prime minister all at once
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lenoon posted:I wrote some welsh castle posts in the last iteration of the thread - I am just driving up to Bletchley park of all places then will give my big old list of good and crap castles in north wales. Beaumaris is superb, I don't think I've ever seen a castle that would be easier to defend pre-Gunpowder. Harlech was decent too but honestly you could whack a picket fence around that hill and it would still be a pain in the arse to assault. I don't think I went to many crap ones up there, but I will say that Cardiff Castle is pretty uninspiring in design. ChubbyChecker posted:Yeah, he was an rear end in a top hat, but his genocide victims aren't counted in millions, unlike Churchill's and Stalin's. Are we doing the Bengal Famine thing again? Let's do a quick recap of events in 1943: Japan: - Sank much of the coastal shipping in the Bay of Bengal, preventing food movement along the coastal routes and reducing fishing capacity - Occupied Burma, the traditional source of extra food for Bengal --- Thereby forced the movement of troops and supplies to the Indian border, further disrupting normal trade patterns Churchill: - Did nothing I'm not saying he should have done nothing and I'm sure there were things that could have been done to help but equivocating him to Stalin is kinda unfair.
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Marxist-Jezzinist posted:Clem was our best and most overrated prime minister all at once edit: this may be the most extreme version of that thing where the two male leads beat each other up and then they're friends that i've ever seen HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 12:15 on Dec 2, 2018 |
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HEY GUNS posted:i love that while he's making GBS threads his guts out at gallipoli he has the time to think "the dude who came up with this isn't afraid to THINK BIG" haha
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It’s astounding to me that Attlee still thought of him as “my Winston” after Churchill pitched his hilariously unsuccessful Labour=Gestapo idea in order to counter “hey let’s establish the state you fought for” with “let’s get back to the misery of the 30s”
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And yet, still one of our better PM's compared to the chodes that followed. The best thing about him was he personally saw the poo poo show that is war from the ground up and knew the consequences.
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lenoon posted:It’s astounding to me that Attlee still thought of him as “my Winston”
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Just the Duke of Buckingham and his mother playing some pranks. 
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Mr Enderby posted:Just the Duke of Buckingham and his mother playing some pranks. also if i wanted to grab a coffee with you while i was in the uk, where would i send the email
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HEY GUNS posted:also if i wanted to grab a coffee with you while i was in the uk, where would i send the email It's a gmail domain, the username is... Mr Enderby fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Dec 2, 2018 |
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this ties into the thing squalid, cyrano, and i were talking about where there's this period from the late 19th century to somewhere around the 70s where everyone on all political sides keeps confusing "a large idea" with "a good idea"
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HEY GUNS posted:this ties into the thing squalid, cyrano, and i were talking about where there's this period from the late 19th century to somewhere around the 70s where everyone on all political sides keeps confusing "a large idea" with "a good idea" For some reason this post reminds me of those crazy '50s geoengineering projects that I can't remember the details of. Let's dig a canal with nuclear explosions! C'mon guys, it'll be awesome!
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StandardVC10 posted:For some reason this post reminds me of those crazy '50s geoengineering projects that I can't remember the details of. Weren't they going to build a harbor in Alaska that way too?
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Project Plowshare "peaceful nuclear explosions" is making me smile
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HEY GUNS posted:this ties into the thing squalid, cyrano, and i were talking about where there's this period from the late 19th century to somewhere around the 70s where everyone on all political sides keeps confusing "a large idea" with "a good idea" My personal favourite version: The groundnut scheme. Attlee was one of the very few member of the labour government at the time who were friendly towards tories despite all working together during the war - this is of course also the time of Bevan’s great Vermin speech. People may be complicated but tories still (usually) wankers.
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lenoon posted:My personal favourite version: The groundnut scheme. GotLag posted:"peaceful nuclear explosions" HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Dec 2, 2018 |
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HEY GUNS posted:hell yes. someone in i think italy wanted to drain the med and farm on the resulting land. big dyke energy Do you mean Atlantropa ?
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