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Cocoa Crispies posted:everyone who pays real money for virtual goods needs mental health care lol real money is a virtual good 
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Dec 2, 2018 21:01
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Hungry posted:
get gud
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Dec 2, 2018 21:16
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MizPiz posted:You should at least have access to the Paris missions its not
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Dec 2, 2018 21:26
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:The psychological aspect of it isn't restricted to video games. People put unhealthily personal investments into fashion, home decor, and all sorts of other stuff. Yeah I'm not disagreeing with you; that earlier post was to point out that it's odd to try and categorize spending money on "virtual items" as a unique kind of insanity when people buy all kinds of dumb poo poo for the same brokebrain reasons (but with different fluff text) and try to convince themselves their preferred flavor of koolaid is the only valid choice. PoopOnaShoe posted:lol real money is a virtual good value is an abstract idea, and an artificial one based on arbitrary logic at that.
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Dec 2, 2018 21:30
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Homeless Friend posted:XP-50 in War Thunder is the best internet gold I've ever spent. too bad it's the grindiest piece of poo poo game around
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Dec 2, 2018 21:36
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420 Gank Mid posted:get gud The game was incredibly easy. Unrevealed aliens pose zero danger because they don't act. So, any good strategy will incorporate this by minimizing unit moves into unrevealed terrain until all currently visible aliens have been defeated. For the purposes of any particular firefight, the unrevealed aliens just don't exist yet. The player knows that nothing is going to come unexpectedly out of an unobserved part of the map. I don't have the technical video game design vocabulary to describe this other than to say it's loving bullshit. It almost single-handedly ruined my enjoyment of the game because it meant I was playing against a now-visible series of artificial mechanics rather than the illusion of organic behavior. This feels like something a lot of games struggle with. Affect is often lost as soon as mechanics become visible, unless those mechanics are very carefully designed.
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Dec 2, 2018 21:37
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i think it's more of a presentation issue, having the AI play by different rules is fine, but some people really don't like how those cheating fucks just scurry into cover the second you see them. bastards! which is fine if you just have the player on board with the enemy playing by different rules, but XCOM at no point sells this difference to the player, gives some kind of verisimilitude-based reason for how it could work the way it does. which really galls the players who are not on board with the fact that the game actually has vastly different rules for the player vs the AI, even though it pretends it doesn't.
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Dec 2, 2018 21:50
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as a side note i love XCOM EU/EW but can't stand XCOM2 and some day i'm gonna play the latter enough to figure out why the sequel rubs me the wrong way so intensely. the flubbed art direction doesn't help things.
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Dec 2, 2018 21:52
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Hungry posted:The game was incredibly easy. yeah, it's dumb that metagaming like this is the only valuable strategy
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Dec 2, 2018 21:54
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Dec 2, 2018 21:55
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Hell same
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Dec 2, 2018 21:55
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I dont mind the scurry to cover because its basically just saving ai dev budget on pretending they were in cover the whole time rather than having every alien always be combat ready. Xcom does kinda degenerate into action denial uber alles (the same as pretty much any game where you're not explicitly trying to stop it)
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Dec 2, 2018 22:19
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Hungry posted:I'd kill for a game which captures the feeling and tone of the original X-Com but isn't glacially slow like Xenonauts or dumb like the X-Com remake. i think xenonauts might be what youre looking for. i see it on steam from time to time and all the reviews say its basically a remake of the original x-com but with more base building and set in the 80's https://store.steampowered.com/app/223830/Xenonauts/ Pener Kropoopkin posted:Suikoden 2 is great because the biggest, baddest, mass-murdering sonofabitch in the whole series built up to be the main antagonist was anticlimactically killed 2/3s of the way through the story. that boss fight owned and the trap they set for him was simple and cool. for the guy playing this for the first time, just a tip: switch out characters from time to time because you will want a more rounded roster for this fight. also if you luck out and get that stupid squirrel keep hanging around in the area he has 5 friends who join up. they don't count toward the 108 stars
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Dec 2, 2018 22:22
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Hungry posted:The game was incredibly easy. maybe it's an XCOM:EU or unmodded thing but I definitely had pods come strolling along into an existing firefight and suddenly make things complicated. flanking's pretty easy with concealment too but lmao at any mention of verisimilitude
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Dec 2, 2018 22:46
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xcom 2 gives good jihad. killing all the collaborating civilians on a map with high explosives is the optimal strategy.
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Dec 2, 2018 22:49
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A Handed Missus posted:too bad it's the grindiest piece of poo poo game around Luckily low tier, like 1-3 I'd say, is where all the fun of the game is. In arcade at least. owning people in italian shitheaps in tier 1/2 or w/e might be the most fun I've ever had in warthunder lol Homeless Friend has issued a correction as of 23:13 on Dec 2, 2018 |
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Dec 2, 2018 23:10
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Uncle Wemus posted:Mass effect 3 and dragon age 2 soured me so bad on bioware. I managed to beat inquisition but hated every character and didnt enjoy anything. Didnt even bother with andromeda.
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Dec 2, 2018 23:11
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Lt. Danger posted:maybe it's an XCOM:EU or unmodded thing but I definitely had pods come strolling along into an existing firefight and suddenly make things complicated. flanking's pretty easy with concealment too You're correct in that EU and XCOM2 both have unseen aliens patrolling and occasionally blundering into the middle of a firefight. That movement is what the "I hear something moving!!" sound-wave indicators show, giving a rough direction of where the aliens are from the nearest soldier. The most bullshit AI-cheating is actually a corner-case of interaction between bugs, where an enemy can see you but you can't see them (normally line-of-sight is always supposed to be reciprocal between any two given non-invisible units), due to some other stupid glitch that spawns them inside a rock or under the map, so their AI is already 'active' before you see them and the game has no idea where to put them until the patrol script decides it's time to move. So what the player sees is a patrol group that just pops up out of nowhere during the alien turn, plays a glitchy dash-to-cover animation which often involves teleporting halfway across the map and/or getting stuck running in mid-air before snapping to cover; then all 3 new enemies immediately take a free turn where they can move to flank+shoot your soldiers. Supposedly it was fixed in EW but I've seen it happen even with XCOM2+expansion.
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Dec 2, 2018 23:20
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Lt. Danger posted:maybe it's an XCOM:EU or unmodded thing but I definitely had pods come strolling along into an existing firefight and suddenly make things complicated. flanking's pretty easy with concealment too pods can patrol around before you trigger them, but they use a completely different logic compared to the normal rules, and can easily hoof it halfway across the map in one turn. i think they teleport too, rather than moving over all tiles inbetween.
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Dec 2, 2018 23:21
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Putting aside the quest bloat and simplified combat, Inquisition has a solid cast and plot and the areas were beautifully crafted. It kicks 2’s butt and has a better story than Origins. I don’t get the hate.
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Dec 2, 2018 23:24
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nothing's more akward than sending your ranger to cut down some fool, only for him to get sight on like 3 pods.
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Dec 2, 2018 23:26
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snoremac posted:Putting aside the quest bloat and simplified combat, Inquisition has a solid cast and plot and the areas were beautifully crafted. It kicks 2’s butt and has a better story than Origins. I don’t get the hate. Well being better than Dragon Age 2 was a pretty low bar in all fairness, what a trainwreck DA2 was.... Inquisition makes up for weaknesses such as being able to sucker punch the smug elf party member or visit French MILF land.
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Dec 2, 2018 23:31
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snoremac posted:Putting aside the quest bloat and simplified combat, Inquisition has a solid cast and plot and the areas were beautifully crafted. It kicks 2’s butt and has a better story than Origins. I don’t get the hate. Well as you say, aside from the terrible combat and questing it's a perfectly okay RPG
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Dec 2, 2018 23:34
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etalian posted:Well being better than Dragon Age 2 was a pretty low bar in all fairness, what a trainwreck DA2 was.... Tell me more about French milf land
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Dec 2, 2018 23:35
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Tell me more about French milf land The game has knock-off france and in one of the main quests you have to bang MILFs to win support for the inquisition.
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Dec 2, 2018 23:39
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i could not for the life of me get into DA:I and I loved DA:O and even liked 2. the environments and graphics and poo poo were great, but the combat just felt broken, there was no orderly flow to everything, it felt like chaos and i hardly felt like i had control of it. that's what i liked so much about DAO and 2, pause, survey the landscape, decide how i wanna combo off, etc. i'm sure i'll try DA:I again and get frustrated around the same point again
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Dec 2, 2018 23:39
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ShriekingMarxist posted:i could not for the life of me get into DA:I and I loved DA:O and even liked 2. I'm not sure how many times you could survey exactly the same warehouse/cave in DA2 also for me DA2 was an absolute mess and 3 was fine
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Dec 2, 2018 23:42
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cargo cult posted:they havent made anything as good as BG2. inquisition was loving awful the gameplay is paper thin and 90% of the content is just running around in WoW-zones with pointless fetch quests and no dialogue or plot. their only good game since shadows of amn was DA:O. Shadows of amn is maybe the best game ever made so whatever i guess mass effect 2 was genuinely good and also a complete fluke
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Dec 2, 2018 23:43
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snoremac posted:Putting aside the quest bloat and simplified combat, Inquisition has a solid cast and plot and the areas were beautifully crafted. It kicks 2’s butt and has a better story than Origins. I don’t get the hate.
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Dec 2, 2018 23:43
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the whole ME series is great wtf
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Dec 2, 2018 23:45
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ShriekingMarxist posted:the whole ME series is great wtf 3 sucks rear end
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Dec 2, 2018 23:45
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oh yeah they hid the real ending of the game in DLC which i refused to play after the total slog the main game was. if you think about BG2 like every plot development or encounter with irenicus or his flunkies like the vampires takes place in a unique environment with its own side stuff, like spellhold, the drow city and hell.
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how as BG2 enhanced anyway?
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Yinlock posted:3 sucks rear end I liked it despite all the nerd whining about the ending even though you can tell the really ran out of time and money on the final few levels. Also for the record Miranda was the best waifu
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Dec 2, 2018 23:52
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okay look, there were some unfortunate narrative choices, but the gameplay is rock solid, there's so many awesome combat bros moments with Garrus, Wrex, et al, and the last mission before the ending is fantastic.
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Dec 2, 2018 23:52
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ShriekingMarxist posted:okay look, there were some unfortunate narrative choices, but the gameplay is rock solid, there's so many awesome combat bros moments with Garrus, Wrex, et al, and the last mission before the ending is fantastic. Also kill yourself if you don't help your Krogan Bros out and decided to side with Salarians to fake the cure.
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Dec 2, 2018 23:53
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cargo cult posted:oh yeah they hid the real ending of the game in DLC which i refused to play after the total slog the main game was. if you think about BG2 like every plot development or encounter with irenicus or his flunkies like the vampires takes place in a unique environment with its own side stuff, like spellhold, the drow city and hell. I agree the main villain (Cyranthhhdus or whatever) did suck.
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etalian posted:Also kill yourself if you don't help your Krogan Bros out and decided to side with Salarians to fake the cure.  loving space nazi Salarians
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