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Caffeinated Jerkoff posted:If you're not looking to get into the tournament scene for a fighting game, you probably shouldn't worry about what the pro players say. Imo this applies doubly to Smash, where you have to disable like 1/3 of the mechanics for tournament play
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You also shouldn't listen to anyone whose words have to penetrate the soupy cloud of body odor that permeates all professional Smash players
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Caffeinated Jerkoff posted:If you're not looking to get into the tournament scene for a fighting game, you probably shouldn't worry about what the pro players say. Imo this applies doubly to Smash, where you have to disable like 1/3 of the mechanics for tournament play Please please please please listen to this everyone.
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Dec 2, 2018 23:12
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Caffeinated Jerkoff posted:If you're not looking to get into the tournament scene for a fighting game, you probably shouldn't worry about what the pro players say. Imo this applies doubly to Smash, where you have to disable like 1/3 of the mechanics for tournament play This goes for a lot of multiplayer stuff. If you're not interested in playing competitively, there's no need to concern yourself with all the hubbub up there. Just play how you want.
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Dec 2, 2018 23:17
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otoh it's not like not going to tournaments suddenly makes input reading CPUs less annoying to play against
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Dr. Fetus posted:This goes for a lot of multiplayer stuff. If you're not interested in playing competitively, there's no need to concern yourself with all the hubbub up there. Just play how you want. b-but what if i'm playing wrong?? 
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Caffeinated Jerkoff posted:If you're not looking to get into the tournament scene for a fighting game, you probably shouldn't worry about what the pro players say. Of course you can have fun without being optimal, just pointing out that the AI has things that make it undesirable as the "single player"component. If they had smash run in there, I'd probably have bought the game, but the game seems to mostly consist of classic style 1v1s, even world of light isn't that compelling outside of the trailer, consisting of themed 1v1s. As it is, it's just a lot of continuous effort where you have to get good to see the next level, which isn't something I want to do all the time. I miss the old adventure side scrolling mode, something about side scrolling with a real fighting game is really fun, think tekken force. The weaker mobs make the parts with rival fights more impactful.
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bushisms.txt posted:Of course you can have fun without being optimal, just pointing out that the AI has things that make it undesirable as the "single player"component. If they had smash run in there, I'd probably have bought the game, but the game seems to mostly consist of classic style 1v1s, even world of light isn't that compelling outside of the trailer, consisting of themed 1v1s. As it is, it's just a lot of continuous effort where you have to get good to see the next level, which isn't something I want to do all the time.
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Dec 2, 2018 23:28
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Gamecube fighting games had the best single player modes between SSB Melee and Soul Calibur 2.
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lol ‘professional smash brothers’
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I'm confused I thought it still had a side-scrolling adventure mode or whatever
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Dec 2, 2018 23:32
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Mak0rz posted:I'm confused I thought it still had a side-scrolling adventure mode or whatever World of Light has exactly one platforming section
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jivjov posted:World of Light has exactly one platforming section Wow that's kind of hosed up imo I'll still play the poo poo out of it though
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bushisms.txt posted:I think it's just fighting games are fun when you know the opponent isn't reading your inputs. Not to mention most "pros" recommend not playing against the Smash ai above level 4 because the ai will teach you bad habits. this is extra funny because at 4 or below the cpu just stands there like a punching bag
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Have the kirby lore masters talked about how close the final smash boss looks to the void thing?  Noticed the dark wing\shadows are the same shape as the bloody eye. Your Computer posted:this is extra funny because at 4 or below the cpu just stands there like a punching bag Yeah that's the point. You're supposed to just work on launchers and stuff. Any more than that and the ai starts doing un player like things.
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bushisms.txt posted:Yeah that's the point. You're supposed to just work on launchers and stuff. Any more than that and the ai starts doing un player like things. I know, but at that point just tell people to stick to training mode y'know? anyway don't listen to any of those people, smash cpu is fun
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Smash is more of a party game that unfortunately just attracted an overlap of the most rabid nintendo fans and the most disgusting fighting game players. Distill those two down to a thick smelly sludge and you have the smash community.
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bushisms.txt posted:Of course you can have fun without being optimal, just pointing out that the AI has things that make it undesirable as the "single player"component. If they had smash run in there, I'd probably have bought the game, but the game seems to mostly consist of classic style 1v1s, even world of light isn't that compelling outside of the trailer, consisting of themed 1v1s. As it is, it's just a lot of continuous effort where you have to get good to see the next level, which isn't something I want to do all the time. this is both severely overestimating the difficulty of the AI in Adventure Mode and severely underestimating the variety on display from the spirit battles.
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MUSCULAR BEAVER posted:Smash is more of a party game this is a completely meaningless statement fyi the game is meant to be played in a lot of different ways. Augus fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Dec 2, 2018 |
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Augus posted:this is a completely meaningless statement fyi Not really? Party games have a rather easy definition. It’s not like niche
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smash is categorically not a fighting game because i can actually play and enjoy it QED
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CharlestheHammer posted:Not really? okay, define party games for me in a manner that excludes Street Fighter but includes Wii Sports Boxing
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I don't see the difference between equipping spirits in SBU and equipping stickers in Brawl. Can someone explain?
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Dec 3, 2018 00:01
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Fun Times! posted:I don't see the difference between equipping spirits in SBU and equipping stickers in the last game. Can someone explain? Stickers weren't in the last game.
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Augus posted:okay, define party games for me in a manner that excludes Street Fighter but includes Wii Sports Boxing You can have fun playing boxing casual. It is impossible to do that with SF.
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Mak0rz posted:smash is categorically not a fighting game because i can actually play and enjoy it QED 
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CharlestheHammer posted:You can have fun playing boxing casual. It is impossible to do that with SF. I played Street Fighter II casually when I was 8 and had fun.
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CharlestheHammer posted:You can have fun playing boxing casual. It is impossible to do that with SF. drat, i better go back in time and tell little kid me that i wasn't actually having fun playing sf2
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MUSCULAR BEAVER posted:Smash is more of a party game that unfortunately just attracted an overlap of the most rabid nintendo fans and the most disgusting fighting game players. Distill those two down to a thick smelly sludge and you have the smash community. Found the bad
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Brother Entropy posted:drat, i better go back in time and tell little kid me that i wasn't actually having fun playing sf2 I mean why ruin it for you. Sometimes the lie is better.
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Augus posted:okay, define party games for me in a manner that excludes Street Fighter but includes Wii Sports Boxing
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jivjov posted:Stickers weren't in the last game. Sorry I'm out of the loop. But what's the difference? Not trying to be a dick just genuinely confused.
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Fun Times! posted:Sorry I'm out of the loop. But what's the difference? Not trying to be a dick just genuinely confused. they're basically stickers except not useless and with mechanics to level them up and upgrade them
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It’s really cool that Sakurai is such a great developer that he tricked people who hate fighting games into playing and enjoying a fighting game.
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My grandmother can pick up Wii Sports Boxing and basically understand what's happening. That's absolutely not true of Street Fighter.
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Heath posted:My grandmother can pick up Wii Sports Boxing and basically understand what's happening. That's absolutely not true of Street Fighter. You press the button to punch the dude
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Augus posted:It’s really cool that Sakurai is such a great developer that he tricked people who hate fighting games into playing and enjoying a fighting game. Smash is definitely not a fighting game. I don’t particularly like Smash but it’s fans have to contort it into some insane knots to get it to sort of look like one.
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Augus posted:this is both severely overestimating the difficulty of the AI in Adventure Mode and severely underestimating the variety on display from the spirit battles. How did you read all that and think what I want is difficulty? I want the mechanical variety, not just mutators.
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Heath posted:My grandmother can pick up Wii Sports Boxing and basically understand what's happening. That's absolutely not true of Street Fighter. I mean, if you find two people who flail around on the controller/fight stick they can still have fun and may even accidentally discover stuff like footsies on their own. The big problem with these games has always been reliably getting those two people together in the same room or lobby.
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