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Klyith posted:you realize that if they do zen2 with integrated GPU, it would either need to be a custom respin or put the iGPU on the I/O chip? If it is a respin I doubt it would be on their list yet. If it were on the I/O that means 14nm, so cramming a RX56½ and the zen2 chip in one package seems difficult. 1/4 of Rome's IO die with 20CUs works out to just ~200mm2, the bigger issue is feeding the iGPU.
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Icept posted:Anyone think AMD is going to follow Intels footsteps and do a Ryzen 9 this next generation? They should just go full ham and release Ryzen 11, or 11.01 / 11+, since we're apparently back to  90s marketing
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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NewFatMike posted:If this is real This is wank material for everyone other than Intel. But it can only be taken with an ocean of salt. it's just TOO good.
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I really hope next-gen Vega consumer cards support SR-IOV because I have absolutely no idea what I'd do with all these cores other than virtualizing multiple OSes on one computer.  e: typo eames fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Dec 3, 2018 |
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eames posted:I really hope next-gen Vega consumer carts support SR-IOV because I have absolutely no idea what I'd do with all these cores other than virtualizing multiple OSes on one computer. That's my hope, get a beefy $400 graphics card and AFK missions and quests in various games in a half dozen potato-mode VMs. Or do really cool accelerated video over RDP without needing to shell for a headless compute card.
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I really hope that Ryzen 5 3600 is real 8c/16t at $170 is nuts
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With better AVX performance, it's going to be a beast, if that core count holds up.
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NewFatMike posted:If this is real That product stack 
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NewFatMike posted:If this is real 3700x oc to 5ghz and i will jump all over that.
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All those '?' at the end for TR. Its like viewing the stats for a final boss. So uhh...3800x Black is a mega roided up 2950x for like half the price...on AM4???
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Duron is...back? That alone is too good to be true TBH, as that'd mean AMD marketing pulled their head out their rear end. My issues are the two 28nm CPUs (why? This would have to be OEM exclusive because they're absolutely trounced by the theoretical Duron 300GE for +5$, also lol at those clockspeeds!), the fact the Athlons and Durons are not locked parts (maybe AMD said gently caress it now that MSI hosed up?), complete lack of 6 core parts (lmao, what?), the insanity of a 1280 CU Navi iGPU (without a fast framebuffer what the gently caress is even the point?), the oddity that is the 3600G (what is the point of disabling hyperthreading?) and the insane binning going on (X-class cpus are noticably faster now, not just slightly faster). Also Ryzen 9 but that's not impossible to believe when Intel just went i9. EDIT: Also dat Athlon 340GE. Exact same price as the Athlon 200GE, yet unlocked and 3 times the compute units. Absolute slaughter on the low end. EmpyreanFlux fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Dec 3, 2018 |
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It seems unlikely that we will see a 16C that can hit a typical turbo of 4.9GHz, a thing that currently does not exist for any price, for $500. If AMD is clocking chips that high I'd expect to see the 8C at least at $350, probably higher, and the 16C double that. It seems really unlikely that we will see a 64-core Threadripper running at 5GHz base, a thing that is so far off the map currently as to be laughable, for any price let alone the approximate price of the current 4.2GHz 32-core. e: even if with the die shrink they could get from 4.2 to 5.0 without increasing power consumption you're talking about doubling core count in a chip that already has a 250W TDP so good luck running that without a 360mm AIO or a custom loop. e2: also yeah why would they entirely axe 6-cores? In general this chart seems out there on core counts, most people don't really have a good use for 8 yet and they're supposedly going to make 16 the new standard? Eletriarnation fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Dec 3, 2018 |
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EmpyreanFlux posted:Duron is...back? That alone is too good to be true TBH, as that'd mean AMD marketing pulled their head out their rear end. 28nm might be glofo wafer agreement chip that they dump next to the ET atari cartridges.
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Have I said how much I like this thread ripper? MacOS VM: 
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Eletriarnation posted:e2: also yeah why would they entirely axe 6-cores? In general this chart seems out there on core counts, most people don't really have a good use for 8 yet and they're supposedly going to make 16 the new standard? Yeah, if AMD is bringing 16c/32t parts to AM4 I would expect them to slot above the current products and overlap with low-end TR somewhat.
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NewFatMike posted:If this is real I call bullshit. No business person would copy the contents of a perfectly good excel file to the main email body. Case closed.
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If AMD corporate spreadsheets look like that, I'm buying all the AMD stock.
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karoshi posted:I call bullshit. No business person would copy the contents of a perfectly good excel file to the main email body. Case closed. What if I use PROC PRINT and ODS to display SAS data sets directly into an email?
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48c/96t at 5.0ghz? Yeah I’m not holding my breath
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Deuce posted:48c/96t at 5.0ghz? Yeah I’m not holding my breath Maybe with phase change cooling? 
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Deuce posted:48c/96t at 5.0ghz? Yeah I’m not holding my breath Not holding my breath but if it's only one core turbo per chiplet, why not.
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I mean, if a customer wants it, they'll build it. Or they *can* build it, with the chiplet design and IO die separate, they can rope in the semi-custom guys into the loop. Rory Read was actually secretly a loving genius. That's not a sentence I ever thought I'd type.
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The pricing and crazy number of different SKUs and naming schemes is what makes me skeptical as well.
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MaxxBot posted:The pricing and crazy number of different SKUs and naming schemes is what makes me skeptical as well. Yeah it’s def bs. Duron and Black Editions lol. Also I doubt AMD even has any of those clocks remotely dialed in for Zen2 yet, let alone a whole dang stack.
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Arzachel posted:Not holding my breath but if it's only one core turbo per chiplet, why not. The all core base is 4.5Ghz though, and on a 48C/96T chip? Lmao, that's fantasy. Like, 5.0Ghz turbo is within reason but a lot of these base clocks for core count are absurd. A 20CU APU? On dual channel DDR4? Are we loving serious? Even if they have the general idea right, with the top half of the stack on 7nm and APU plus bottom on 12nm, the whole chart reads like the wildest red team fantasy.
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EmpyreanFlux posted:Duron is...back? That alone is too good to be true TBH, as that'd mean AMD marketing pulled their head out their rear end. wargames posted:28nm might be glofo wafer agreement chip that they dump next to the ET atari cartridges. actually i can think of a use case, new rasberry pie type chips for the micro super low power cpus?
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I don't care about number of cores and think that roadmap as a whole looks pretty fake, but if they can actually deliver those clockspeeds even if core count remains unchanged, I might be getting a 3700x or even the 3800x if it exists and reaches 5ghz boost  Seems a bit too good to be true, though
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wargames posted:actually i can think of a use case, new rasberry pie type chips for the micro super low power cpus? 4.6Ghz, 28nm, Construction Cores, super low power.
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Looking at the picture with fresh eyes, it does look a little too good to be true. Still hoping for 32C/64T upgrade next year.ratbert90 posted:Have I said how much I like this thread ripper? How did you get/is it running? I've been wanting to set up a Mac VM for a while. Equal parts for fun and for work stuff.
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I mean the odds are pretty good for a reasonably priced 32-core TR but I don't know about 5GHz.
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NewFatMike posted:Looking at the picture with fresh eyes, it does look a little too good to be true. Still hoping for 32C/64T upgrade next year. I have two RX560's (MSI works out of the box in MacOS, my XFX causes the VM to reboot.) I followed this guide: https://github.com/kholia/OSX-KVM The VM is set to auto-login and start synergy when started. All I have to do is switch inputs on my 3rd monitor.  There isn't any limitations as far as I can see. Far easier to get up and running, I can update like normal, and everything works.
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Lmao at anyone giving that amateur hour fabrication any credence whatsoever. It's bullshit and you all know it.
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2019 will bring a single core, 500mhz Ryzen
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:2019 will bring a single core, 500mhz Ryzen
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:Lmao at anyone giving that amateur hour fabrication any credence whatsoever. It's bullshit and you all know it. Sometimes it's nice to daydream about winning the lottery.
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Oh, well in that case Ryzen 4700X 8/16 6GHz boost* $299.99 *non-exotic cooling (480mm chiller)
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EmpyreanFlux posted:4.6Ghz, 28nm, Construction Cores, super low power. i mean the ghz is off for a super low power cpu but the raspberry pi 3 b+ has hit the limit of the 40nm process next process is what 32 or 28nm.
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