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Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013




Based on history, his ML algorithms seem to have targeting Firetrucks down cold.

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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

https://twitter.com/markbspiegel/status/1069413277476769794

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

lot going on here

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

It's gonna be like those fainter goats, along comes a cop car and every tesla just slams into the curb

tenderjerk
Nov 6, 2008

this is smart, with fire trucks this ensures a tesla battery is immediately right next to a water hose and flame retardant materials

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


Sir Tonk posted:

lot going on here

it was posted 10 months ago too, when the idea of a $35k Tesla was even more laughable than it currently is.

Wachter
Mar 23, 2007

You and whose knees?

I'm not surprised by the Roko's Basilisk/$TSLA crossover since they're the same thing*.

    In the future, there will be godlike AI/car.
    AI/car will save the world.
    This will definitely, 100% happen because, uhhhhh, reasons, and anyone who disagrees is a dangerous idiot.
    You must love AI/car.
    You must devote your life's work and finances to causing AI/car to come into being.
    Those who do not will face eternal torture in a simulation/be crushed against a fire truck.

*e: see also Star Citizen

Morphix
May 21, 2003

by Reene

Esquire has always had really good writers working for it. You just gotta ignore the lifestyle bullshit.

nice to see a gentlemans mags making GBS threads on Musk, because you know the fucker thumbs through it and GQ religiously.

tenderjerk
Nov 6, 2008

https://twitter.com/AskDrStupid/status/1069487332972220417

Dezinus
Jun 4, 2006

How unsightly.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TeslaOpinion/status/1069421645016653824

quote:

DETROIT — General Motors Co. (NYSE: GM) dealers delivered 694,638 vehicles in the third quarter of 2018 in the United States, with average transaction prices (ATPs) rising about $700 per unit year over year to a new third quarter record of $35,974.
🤔

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Morphix posted:

Esquire has always had really good writers working for it. You just gotta ignore the lifestyle bullshit.

nice to see a gentlemans mags making GBS threads on Musk, because you know the fucker thumbs through it and GQ religiously.

It's refreshing also to see such critical media coverage of Musk and his companies when previously it was all glowing.

Lote
Aug 5, 2001

Place your bets

tenderjerk posted:

this is smart, with fire trucks this ensures a tesla battery is immediately right next to a water hose and flame retardant materials

Water makes lithium fires worse because it splits off the hydrogen from oxygen so it turns the water into an accelerant.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Lote posted:

Water makes lithium fires worse because it splits off the hydrogen from oxygen so it turns the water into an accelerant.

Elon really did think of everything, dang.

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
Someone in the both green and amber thread posted a video last week, of 1/16th of a Tesla battery being transferred to a hot rod by some enthusiasts. Naturally the whole thing burned down right there on video. Flaming batteries flying off like bottle rockets, shooting giant fireballs up on the roof and on other cars in all directions, leaving the engine bay a smoldering heap of black ash and melted battery holes in the pavement.

When the fire trucks arrived they appeared to immediately spray it with their hose and the fire went right out. Was that not water?

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
No, there are specifically chemical fire extinguishers that use powder compounds for exactly that sort of fire. You don't put water on a lithium fire unless you want to level the block.

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.


Ok which one of you has a Silver Model S in central texas plated with, “UWATTM8?”

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
Yeah but it was not an extinguisher, they used their hose in the video

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Dumb Lowtax posted:

Yeah but it was not an extinguisher, they used their hose in the video

Yeah, I just rewatched it, it looks like they were just using it on the remnants of the fire, they don't show them hosing down the igniting lithium packs with water.

For ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdDi1haA71Q&t=186s

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
Is there no lithium left in them by that point?

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
Well, if they were doused in water without exploding, I'd say not enough to matter.

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop

Man that drawing with both Grimes and Banks :lol:

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009

infernal machines posted:

Well, if they were doused in water without exploding, I'd say not enough to matter.

For lithium-ion batteries in an EV, the ideal NHTSA guideline is let the fucker burn and just contain the surrounding area. Which works for parking lots, it doesn't work as well with fires on roadways.So water in massive quantities is going to be the likely treatment. There are various things that are preferred but you're unlikely to them them have on hand in enough quantity for a full battery pack fire. For smaller batteries, foam extinguishers are better, but for a car fire that isn't at an airport you just won't have that much foam. Generally for lithium-ion batteries, the lithium salts used react less violently with water than metallic lithium would. And using water has the advantage of cooling the cells surrounding the fire which can reduce thermal runaway.

The big issue with using water is that you need a lot of it. More than usual for a car fire which can present logistical issues. And you have to keep an eye on it. The fire can start back up again pretty quickly. One of the Tesla's that caught fire was thought to be put out at the scene and loaded onto a tow truck. Which the fire started again. And thought to be put out again. Where it reignited at the junkyard. So one of the ways they are handling this is looking at the car through thermal imaging to make sure the battery packs are cooled.

Thomamelas has issued a correction as of 19:47 on Dec 3, 2018

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
huh

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy
Musk so desperately wants to be Hank Scorpio but who is his Homer Simpson?

ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013



Hank Scorpio has good benefits.

Baxate
Feb 1, 2011

has there been any news on the result of that 200mil November loan repayment? will that not be made public until the next quarter?

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Baxate posted:

has there been any news on the result of that 200mil November loan repayment? will that not be made public until the next quarter?

Tesla had to pay since the conversion price was $560 a share.

Baxate
Feb 1, 2011

etalian posted:

Tesla had to pay since the conversion price was $560 a share.

oh I thought this was the $360 one and the big one next year was $560

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Baxate posted:

oh I thought this was the $360 one and the big one next year was $560

Reposting this link and handy chart

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-musk-debt-explainer/teslas-u-turn-puts-it-back-at-square-one-on-cash-idUSKCN1LD0CY

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



https://twitter.com/OsmanParvez/status/1069664493553180672

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPU8992gL1E

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

what

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Still makes me laugh how Tesla did frameless car doors.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

the windows don't close all the way any more, so that they don't freeze the door closed

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


infernal machines posted:

the windows don't close all the way any more, so that they don't freeze the door closed

it's a very tesla way to fix the issue

MokBa
Jun 8, 2006

If you see something suspicious, bomb it!

oh my god who let these people build cars and how can we as a society stop them

Lote
Aug 5, 2001

Place your bets

MokBa posted:

oh my god who let these people build cars and how can we as a society stop them

Free range, artisanal cars

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop

MokBa posted:

oh my god who let these people build cars and how can we as a society stop them

:thermidor:

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


MokBa posted:

oh my god who let these people build cars and how can we as a society stop them

Just start painting firetrucks onto brick walls.

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Muscle Wizard
Jul 28, 2011

by sebmojo

MokBa posted:

oh my god who let these people build cars and how can we as a society stop them

seems like the kind of problem that solves itself really

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