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VostokProgram posted:It turns out one of my coworkers just has a stockpile of kailh box whites he'll let me borrow so I got the GMMK board that lets you change switches without soldering, let's see how this goes Both of those are good op
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bolind posted:Hello keyboard thread Ended up getting a WASD v2 TKL in super boring black with Cherry Clears as a coworker generously accepted smuggling one home from the US for me. Will report back how it treats me.
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I’m in the market for stabilizers, do people have any strong opinions on which ones are best? I’m replacing the ones currently on my keyboard, and it looks like they are PCB mounted and screwed in. I’ve used the stabs that KBDfans sells and I’ve found that they constantly slip out of my spacebar, causing it to get tilted when I hit a specific side of it. It’s actually very frustrating!
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I'm a fan of GMK screw in and I usually get them from deskcandy to avoid China shipping times. With a bit of Super Lube they're completely smooth and silent. edit: I've heard some PCBs have an issue where the screw head will short something out so I usually put a bit of electrical tape over nearby contacts to be safe.
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Brownie posted:I’ve used the stabs that KBDfans sells and I’ve found that they constantly slip out of my spacebar, causing it to get tilted when I hit a specific side of it. It’s actually very frustrating! I've had a tab key slip off its stem constantly and was considering gluing it but then I read about the "ziploc bag trick" where you cut a small square from the bag and put it between keycap and stem, it helped a lot. It might help with your stabilizer problem. That being said, I don't think the info pool is that deep with regards to stabilizers. Zeal PC released their own overpriced ones but they might just be rebadged GMK stabs. Lots of nerds talk about clipping + lubing stabs so they aren't rattley anymore.. doesn't seem like a big enough deal to me.
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I’m looking to get some zealios for my to build at home keeb. My wife absolutely hates noisy switches so I’m looking to get the Zilents. How silent are they? Cherry Browns are too noisy for her liking.
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Looks like the production date for the Wooting Two keyboards is finally set, if anyone was in on their Kickstarter or pre-orders.
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LochNessMonster posted:I’m looking to get some zealios for my to build at home keeb. My wife absolutely hates noisy switches so I’m looking to get the Zilents. How silent are they? I have a set of Zilents. I liked them very much initially but that board (Melody96) is collecting dust now. But I'm not sure if that's really because of the switches - it's also a very heavy board and has SA keycaps on it, both of which I don't like in hindsight. I went back to a board with MX browns. Buy a few and put them in a sampler to see how they feel with your favorite keycaps imo.
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LochNessMonster posted:I’m looking to get some zealios for my to build at home keeb. My wife absolutely hates noisy switches so I’m looking to get the Zilents. How silent are they? What sound does she dislike, are you bottoming out?
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I’m pretty heavy handed and bottom out constantly on my work keyboard (pok3r with mx browns) which I use occaisionally at home as well. When I type fast and there’s no background noise (music, tv or kids) is when she usually notices it’s too loud for her. I was thinking about ordering the 78g Zilents to prevent bottoming out all the time. Not sure how to retrain myself into not smashing the keys all the time. It’s a habit formed over 20ish years. I touch type with 10 fingers so I’m afraid the force used is 100% from muscle memory. My reasoning was that using really heavy switched might help with that.
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I'm confident it would. I can't not bottom out browns, but am fine with basically anything heavier... With the exception of the spacebar.
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LochNessMonster posted:I’m pretty heavy handed and bottom out constantly on my work keyboard (pok3r with mx browns) which I use occaisionally at home as well. When I type fast and there’s no background noise (music, tv or kids) is when she usually notices it’s too loud for her. I use gateron silent browns at work, same cushions as the zilents, but I can still get them clacking away by doing what you're describing (slamming them down while touch typing).
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Maybe just for clarification, I'm not saying that Zilents are very bad, but I am advocating to try them and possibly compare them to the corresponding Cherrys and Gaterons.
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Use some good, stiff o-rings. It won't full on stop you from bottoming out if you're typing like a jackhammer, but it'll definitely help.
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I keep power bottoming out.
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I bottom out constantly with MX Browns unless I really concentrate on not doing it, but not with Clears. I think it's the fact that the resistance ramps up quickly after the actuation point, it kind of provides a cushion to stop you doing it.
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chippy posted:I bottom out constantly with MX Browns unless I really concentrate on not doing it, but not with Clears. I think it's the fact that the resistance ramps up quickly after the actuation point, it kind of provides a cushion to stop you doing it. That sounds exactly like what I’m doing. Zealios/zilents 78g are just a tad lighter than MX clears right?
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If you want a switch that will help stop you from bottoming out, you might want to look into Hako Royal Clear switches from Input Club. After the bump, the tension ramps up really quickly. It almost feels like the key is punching back up into my fingers. I found them a bit uncomfortable and am now rocking 67g Zilents. Those are really quiet, though, so maybe just go with the 78g ones you're considering and keep bottoming out like me. In an acrylic case on a brass plate, they're quieter than any of the other rubber membranes in my cubicle farm.
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Hot take, if you habitually bottom out even on heavy switches then you should just use a $20 rubber dome keyboard and pour your money into a different hobby. (Actually I find scissor keys are pretty nice for bottom-outers, but it seems like they’re getting rare except on laptops)
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My friends, as is the answer so often, Topre brings you the comfort you seek.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Hot take, if you habitually bottom out even on heavy switches then you should just use a $20 rubber dome keyboard and pour your money into a different hobby. logitech still makes the scissor k740 and it's good
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You sure the K740 is scissor keys? I've never used one, but can't find any reference to it in product descriptions and it looks like a thin-profile rubber dome (which is precisely what's become more popular the last few years in place of scissor keys, but scissor keys are way more tolerable to type on if you bottom out a lot, IMO).
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My opinion is that bottoming out is bad. My browns aren't anywhere near as bad as what I deal with when it came to my reds. The reds have no feedback and it's just like BONG here's the bottom, even with some o rings it just felt bad and honestly after awhile if I'm angry typing my fingers stat to hurt. At home my browns handle my typing like a champ but I don't want to bring the browns into the office.. I'd get stares.
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Eric the Mauve posted:You sure the K740 is scissor keys? I've never used one, but can't find any reference to it in product descriptions and it looks like a thin-profile rubber dome (which is precisely what's become more popular the last few years in place of scissor keys, but scissor keys are way more tolerable to type on if you bottom out a lot, IMO). you're probably right, but it has minimal rubbery feel imo. I also wish scissor keys would become trendy tho
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emdash posted:you're probably right, but it has minimal rubbery feel imo. I also wish scissor keys would become trendy tho me breaking my scissor switch keyboard that I had for 12 or so years was what brought me into this money pit of a hobby
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I'm heavy handed on the keyboard, but mx clears and now 78g zealios have helped a lot. My new massdrop CTRL seems louder with the zealios though because there's pinging echoing through the keyboard body or something.
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tater_salad posted:My opinion is that bottoming out is bad. My browns aren't anywhere near as bad as what I deal with when it came to my reds. The reds have no feedback and it's just like BONG here's the bottom, even with some o rings it just felt bad and honestly after awhile if I'm angry typing my fingers stat to hurt.
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mrking posted:I'm heavy handed on the keyboard, but mx clears and now 78g zealios have helped a lot. My new massdrop CTRL seems louder with the zealios though because there's pinging echoing through the keyboard body or something. Since its design is derived from the k-type, it's probably the exact same design flaw: there's considerable empty space below the pcb, with some space above it as well, which allows certain noises to resonate in the case like a musical instrument. A number of people have put craft foam underneath the pcb (2mm thickness fits almost perfectly), some have gone for specialty sound-deadening materials, and I've seen even crazier people put that liquid rubber head gasket stuff all over the backing plate to add more mass. I've also seen somebody talking about laser-cutting more foam to perfectly fit around the switches on the top side. I just put the craft foam in the bottom and that helps, but it's still a little loud for what it is. rarbatrol fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Dec 5, 2018 |
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How stupid am I if I get that space grey mac keyboard for my windows PC that i'll also be playing videogames on? I'd really like a nice high quality keyboard to type on and be able to clean almost instantly.
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I used my new GMMK with my friend's box whites and some SA profile caps and I have to say that the GMMK is a really cool board, although there are some things I don't like about this setup: 1. I just don't like box whites, the fake actuation noise (they're like blues) doesn't sound good, especially compared to the nice sound of my caps hitting the baseplate 2. Using high profile caps with a bare keyboard looks loving hilarious, you have these huge caps and then this big area around the bottom where you just see the switches For #1 I'm going to try out another friend's zealios to see if I want to buy them. But for #2 I want to find some way to make or buy a shroud or a cover plate or something that will make the GMMK look a little more like a normal keyboard by covering up the base of the keys. Maybe something translucent so that light can still shine through. Anyone got ideas?
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https://kotaku.com/this-official-star-wars-keycap-set-leans-towards-the-da-1830887269
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buglord posted:How stupid am I if I get that space grey mac keyboard for my windows PC that i'll also be playing videogames on? I'd really like a nice high quality keyboard to type on and be able to clean almost instantly. That thing's got no key travel but if you think that's a benefit so you can clean it easier then go nuts. There are a ton of keyboards out there that have drainage channels to be spill resistant, I'd consider that a bit more important than being flat enough to wipe down. VostokProgram posted:For #1 I'm going to try out another friend's zealios to see if I want to buy them. But for #2 I want to find some way to make or buy a shroud or a cover plate or something that will make the GMMK look a little more like a normal keyboard by covering up the base of the keys. Maybe something translucent so that light can still shine through. Anyone got ideas? I don't know if you'll have much luck with this, I've used a redragon vara and velocifire vm01 as doner boards partly because I didn't like the floating key thing. The redragon has a plate that's sunken into a case that surrounds the edge, the vm01 has an actual plastic cover like a normal keyboard.
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can someone identify this keyboard? It looks like the exact same PCB layout as the Razer BlackWidow Elite but with a different legend and volume dial
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Das Keyboard 5Q
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thanks, has anyone tried it out and all the cloud notification stuff? Easy to set up, or hard? Im wondering if razer is actually using the same pcb, a lot of stuff lines up exactly the same. There are only so many ways you can arrange the media keys, but its awfully close. Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Dec 7, 2018 |
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Cloud software? For a keeb?
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It's poo poo
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Don Lapre posted:It's poo poo
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VostokProgram posted:I used my new GMMK with my friend's box whites and some SA profile caps and I have to say that the GMMK is a really cool board, although there are some things I don't like about this setup: This is really weird to me because Box Whites use a totally different and distinctly much more snappy click mechanism than Blues do to actually generate the sound you hear when pressing the switch. It's definitely true that you can sorta hover the switch around the action point and actuate it without making the click at all if you don't let it reset all the way back up though. (I'm currently using box whites on the Massdrop CTRL board and think they sound exceptionally chunking with SA caps on them).
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