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Kashuno posted:##vote iPiss 
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Dec 13, 2018 18:04
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Toalpaz posted:Sure enough. I've actually correctly guessed many scum day one based on their first sets of posts and 'content'. I've done it at least 3 times successfully. I think my case against you is legit. I'm being mindful of the fact that AA suggested that FL and you could have been in a fake scum argument. The true prophet. Rest in peace Toal, you did good buddy  As to who I am suspicious of, those who immediately come to mind are AA and Pod. The former made highly questionable decisions towards the end of the day, including an incredibly dubious vote onto someone who was not going to get lynched anytime soon. I’m suspicious of the latter because they were the ones who tried to move the initial vote off of Merk and onto Solus. He was one of the more stubborn votes to swing over onto Merk and I feel like it could have been his hand being forced or his game would’ve blown up. After all, he had said before that Merk was suspicious. It shouldn’t have been so hard for him to jump ship when he realised Solus wasn’t happening. Now that Toal has flipped town, I’m also wondering whether his push onto him was trying to patsy Toal considering he piggybacked off the argument I made which was either ignored or argued against in the case of Toal. Willing to post more thoughts later. At work atm.
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Dec 13, 2018 18:09
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Tired Moritz posted:hey sorry I didnt post that much the last day, I got really distracted with unsolved mysteries. While I do appreciate the vote, I’d like to hear your voice and opinions since you’re pretty much an enigma at this point.
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Dec 13, 2018 18:10
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The thing about the AA vote on me is that 1) I had come up a bit in discussion at that time 2) They made it clear they wouldn't be around 3) The idea of voting someone somewhat on the outside chance of getting lynched paints a target on you. Knowing one of your scumbros was in the top few votees at the time, it'd be nuts to take that risk as scum
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Dec 13, 2018 18:17
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Kashuno posted:The thing about the AA vote on me is that Also solus was at -1, if I was scum I would have hammered solus and have been done with it. My push for Kashuno stands. I don't like his end of day vote on merk and it seemed like the resigned vote of a scum who saw no other out for their scumbro. Anyhow, yeah phone was at 1%, I expressed what I could before my phone died, and then vanished because phone was dead and I was still very much busy with life at that point in time. I forgot it was EST in all honesty deadline was rough for me yesterday. Anyhow, what up IP?
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Dec 13, 2018 18:23
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am I legally allowed to vote IcePhoenix just because they replaced in and because I feel Solus's unhappiness of possibly getting lynched day 1 is from dropping the ball for his scum team?
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Dec 13, 2018 18:33
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Solus didn't full claim but Expressed a pr
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Dec 13, 2018 18:34
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##unvote I have a gut feeling that AA might be third party, but I guess this game might be too small for that?
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Dec 13, 2018 18:34
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Also solus was at -1, if I was scum I would have hammered solus and have been done with it. Defend a person as town and the come in and call ya scum.
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Dec 13, 2018 18:36
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Anyhow, what up IP? I've got a lot of backlog to get through for this game but I am up for the challenge. Tired Moritz posted:##unvote c9 doesn't have 3p does it?
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Dec 13, 2018 18:49
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IcePhoenix posted:I've got a lot of backlog to get through for this game but I am up for the challenge. No lol.
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Dec 13, 2018 18:54
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I guess max does specify it's a variant
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Dec 13, 2018 18:56
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Max posted:Welcome to Sandman Mafia, a fairly standard game of mafia for 12 players. I highly doubt there is a 3P. I think Max has intended this game to be simple and a 3P just muddle things up. I’d rather focus on scum hunting personally.
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Dec 13, 2018 19:26
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Fair warning: I’m likely going to be on a plane when the deadline ends. Either that or just landing and will basically be a zombie.
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Dec 13, 2018 19:35
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ya let's nip the 3p chat in the bud for now. If someone is non-town, why?
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Dec 13, 2018 19:55
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Looking back at the votes on MMT then the shift to Solus and Merk The most suspicious votes are beets and FLs FL for that real weak departure from MMT to something rather innocuous on Huma. But beet more than FL for their series of convictionless votes. Seems like they were just following heat on MMT and toal and then ended up on merk at deadline, but no explanations really in between. Some vague snipes and a lot of jokes. ##vote beet Would still vote Kash, and while MMT is probably unlikely for scum at this junction her/FL remain a point of contention in my mind.
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Dec 13, 2018 20:14
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Thoughts on my case for Pod? I feel like his previous actions come under a new light now that Toal and Merk have flipped.
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Dec 13, 2018 20:16
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Anytime beet isn't in the top 5 posters he's sus, IMO
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Dec 13, 2018 20:17
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jimmydalad posted:I’m suspicious of the latter because they were the ones who tried to move the initial vote off of Merk and onto Solus. He was one of the more stubborn votes to swing over onto Merk and I feel like it could have been his hand being forced or his game would’ve blown up. After all, he had said before that Merk was suspicious. It shouldn’t have been so hard for him to jump ship when he realised Solus wasn’t happening. I feel like this is really weak logic. You can desperately want something to happen and not be happy when you have to give it up. Especially if sus on someone but not feeling like there's a strong case. I'll reread pod tho
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Dec 13, 2018 20:28
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jimmydalad posted:Thoughts on my case for Pod? I feel like his previous actions come under a new light now that Toal and Merk have flipped. Looking back I actually don't see where you made a case. In fact you call out MMT for a cliché meta read on Pod. The only interaction with Pod I saw is where Pod had asked for some response and you explained, but I don't see where you actively cased him. You also advocated for toal's lunch after kind of fizzling off mmt. And were pretty strongly on solus from what I can tell prior to their appeal. I did find Pod to be a bit frantic around deadline, but that's mostly because their response to my kash case and vote was a wet fart. All things considered, I'm not opposed to looking there, I just don't see where you actually made an effort to toss suspicion there until today.
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Dec 13, 2018 20:28
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Looking back I actually don't see where you made a case. In fact you call out MMT for a cliché meta read on Pod. I meant that I feel that Pod and his actions should probably be looked at under a new light after we now know that Toalpaz was town and that Merk was scum. He was the figurehead of the voteswings against Toalpaz as well as Solus. I feel like the latter one is especially susicious considering Merk was close to getting lynched before Pod came in and moved the vote onto Solus. It took a very strong effort to get the vote back onto Merk and it all came in at the last second. Podima posted:OK I'm here. I still have major issues with Toal but would also vote merk or Solus in a heartbeat today. I'm gonna do one more quick reread of those three to gather my thoughts fresh as I admit I got a bit personally irritated at Toal which is probably overshadowing things. Podima posted:Toal I feel like in these posts he voices willingness and support for a Merk lynch. Then, when push comes to shove and it’s clear that the Solus vote isn’t happening because MMT and I flat out stated we refused to vote for him while Toalpaz wasn’t moving his vote away from Merk, he is still hesitant and trying to make a case on someone who at that point had effectively quit the game. It felt like much more effort was needed to sway Pod than there should have been based on what he had posted in the thread. Kashuno posted:I feel like this is really weak logic. You can desperately want something to happen and not be happy when you have to give it up. Especially if sus on someone but not feeling like there's a strong case. The thing is though he had stated before that he would vote out Merk “in a heartbeat” and still fought hard against the vote when it was moving back towards Merk. His actions feel like they run counter to what he had stated previously. In general, I think he’s looking murky today and definitely one of the people I’m most suspicious of.
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Dec 13, 2018 20:48
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Ugh, closed out my case tab. Anyhow, regarding pod. I am marginally salty that he dismisses my cases without much actual real explanation or effort, but regarding his opinions on toal, solus and merk, he at least took the time to address them in a way that doesn't seem artificial. There is some dissonance though and I think that is curious. The "in a heartbeat" and the "solus as patsy" remark on his assessment of merk don't vibe with how the day plays out, but he did actually explain conviction. Another thing of note is that he seems to just be catch-up playing. All of his posts as far as I can tell happen within in 1 hour on 12/11 and 2 hours on 12/12 so I think he just gave us a hot take grab bag more than anything. I don't think it's a smoking gun, but I would lik ehim to explain the in a heartbeat and then his reluctance to vote merk.
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Dec 13, 2018 21:03
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Lumpen: Town AA, Lovable Town Superstar & Super Genius Probably MMT after how the day ended and her push on merk Likely Town IP, emotional appeal isn't an alignment tell, but looking at the push on solus and alluding to a pr, it's not unreasonable to think they are probably town Null Everyone else Curious FL Pod Scum Kash Beet
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Dec 13, 2018 21:18
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why am I scum again?
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Dec 13, 2018 21:21
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Kashuno posted:why am I scum again? In short: Your brief appearance and self-excuse for a lack of reads, but more than that your willingness to vote someone and THEN say, "sorry, don't really have any reads or opinions" and vanish. Then I really feel that you were holding out for a no lunch. Saw that as impossible and dunked merk, as stated this morning.
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Dec 13, 2018 21:25
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:In short: Why would it have been impossible to hold out? I hammered merk myself
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Dec 13, 2018 21:27
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scum hammered a lot so I dont think that's a good point
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Dec 13, 2018 21:36
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Kashuno posted:Why would it have been impossible to hold out? Lol I guess I hadn't thought that out... you would have just stalled it if you were the scum. It was 2 mins til. I'll see myself out for now  I mean... you could have done it for cred, but yeahhhh... I see now how this isnt the smartest case I've ever made. Beet case stands!
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Dec 13, 2018 21:37
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Tired Moritz posted:scum hammered a lot so I dont think that's a good point If I was holing out for a no lynch I couldve easily just said "hey I fell back asleep from my medicine sorry I afk'd at deadline" But I didn't. I showed up and hammered
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Dec 13, 2018 21:38
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Lol I guess I hadn't thought that out... you would have just stalled it if you were the scum. It was 2 mins til. I'll see myself out for now 
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Dec 13, 2018 21:39
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Hey I am sitting on a plane that will take off soon and am visiting family for a long weekend but will stay on top of this best as I'm able. Can someone please look at the timestamps of AA's posts at the end of d1? Can't easily retrieve from mobile but he stretched that 1% pretty far to push back at the merk execution.
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Dec 13, 2018 22:29
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Blame Samsung for having a really efficient 1%. I was up for 13 minutes after I notified you that I was at 1% and then phone died for good, and it wasn't a stream of posts at that 1% I think there were 3 or 4, 2 in close proximity towards the end of that 13 minute block. 
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Dec 13, 2018 22:40
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BK has requested a replacement, fyi
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Dec 13, 2018 23:22
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Max posted:BK has requested a replacement, fyi Denied.
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Dec 13, 2018 23:58
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Mr. Humalong posted:Denied. We've got like 2 replacements lined up though. Seems kind of scummy to deny players, scumalong!!!!  this is an obvious joke, just in case you read this and go, A-HA, I've caught this sonuvabitch dead to rights.
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Dec 14, 2018 00:00
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Kashuno posted:If I was holing out for a no lynch I couldve easily just said "hey I fell back asleep from my medicine sorry I afk'd at deadline" And now youre using the fact that you hammered as a defense... Mmmm
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Dec 14, 2018 00:22
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(had a night of work > company party so I'm probably going to sleep sooner than later today)Tired Moritz posted:And now youre using the fact that you hammered as a defense... Mmmm It's a fair defense. We were one minute away from a no-lynch and instead killed a scum, because of Kash. It's not irrelevant. I mean maaaaybe scum is playing the long con? But I have to imagine they would have preferred the no-lynch. TM, who scum?
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Dec 14, 2018 00:43
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BottleKnight, probably.
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Dec 14, 2018 00:49
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Tired Moritz posted:BottleKnight, probably. What makes you think that?
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Dec 14, 2018 01:01
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They have 10 posts, and then they afked for the rest of the day, and then they asked for a replacement. Sounds like someone that doesnt want to play scum imo
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