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Tired Moritz posted:luckily for the scum team, I am not. Wow there's enough hedging here to make a fantastic maze! I also still don't see or understand how the comparison to bk is substantiated since he only talks about solus. Murmur Twin posted:Oooh actually as suss as I am on TM I gotta ##vote FL. She: This is interesting as I had forgotten the town call on merk. I had a pretty strong town read on FL for admittedly meta reasons (would a scum FL come in as hot as she did on day 1 in their first game in a while) but I see your point here. That being said I still feel like the rest of their D1 posting, town read on merk aside, was fine from memory? How early did that town read get made by FL?
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Dick Bastardly posted:I mean just look at this. This post and the others that directly follow it from dick are making me feel pretty good about him, they seem to be coming from a genuine place of wanting to puzzle out what happened in day 1 as a replacement. jimmydalad posted:Are you being wilfully ignorant or did you miss the follow-up posts from DB? Ugh more if I was scum defenses, this sucks. I agree with the fact that you were an early merk vote but using it as your first excuse isn't great. Bussing is a thing. IcePhoenix posted:MMT looked better imo as the day went on so I'm gonna walk back from that. Uh so are you calling Huma scum here or what? This is a weird post to make as you reread without making any mention of Huma's actual posts, and also comes off as trying to defend yourself rather than find scum.
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why do people use the phrase hedging so much in this thread? Is it lingo that suddenly got a rush of popularity? if so, can we start using FoS a lot more?
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Flying Leatherman posted:So, re: TM. I'm skipping D1 because there wasn't any serious engagement there and just going to get right into D2. There's plenty of stuff here that doesn't look good. The AA vote comes out of nowhere and then the justification is weak when pressed. The BK read is lazy and looks weird when coupled with TM's initial read on Solus - like, there are a few posts in which the thread of the conversation is "Solus did stuff that I think is scummy, but BK only posted 10 times and then replaced out, so it's probably BK", and that's just a weird conclusion that doesn't follow from the thought line. Ok I disagree with this post a lot wow. You're excusing a lot on the basis of "well they didn't go after me so" and that's either self conscious scum or overly charitable town. (Unlike mmt I don't necessarily think this is the golden goose scum slip) Setting aside their lack of jumping on you, would you think they were scum? I also don't understand where the missing word was supposed to go? ~~~ IcePhoenix posted:I'm glad you've demonstrated the ability to follow the conversation, beet. Agree with the sentiment here but also this is too easy of a tack to take as a replacement ostensibly catching up. ~~~ Flying Leatherman posted:"the only other way TM's alignment call..." So, like, the two possibilities: Oh here it is. No, disagree, assumes too much about scum motivations or strategies. Like I could see this in a vacuum as an overthinking townie but excusing TM for that alone is a bit much.
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IcePhoenix posted:Currently leaning MMT but I have a ways to go (including rereading this day) so I'm not going to put down a vote yet IcePhoenix posted:MMT looked better imo as the day went on so I'm gonna walk back from that. IcePhoenix posted:I'm glad you've demonstrated the ability to follow the conversation, beet. IcePhoenix posted:oh I got back up to speed this morning like I said I would IcePhoenix posted:annnd....read my posts? This is the net sum of IP's big catchup that he references with his last two posts: a non read on Huma and an inactivity callout on beet. This doesn't do anything at all to change my mind about solus from day 1!
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Dec 15, 2018 07:50
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##vote icephoenix Other persons of interest: Tired Moritz AA FL Beet Town reads: MMT Dick Neutral: Everyone else unless I missed someone, I'm tired and this bar is about to close
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Dec 15, 2018 07:52
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Ugh, I really should’ve done better keeping up with the thread. I have to get ready for a flight now. I don’t know if I’m confident enough to throw down a vote.
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IcePhoenix posted:oh I got back up to speed this morning like I said I would Oh you did? Really? Wow. This is awkward.
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Maaaaan I mean honestly the emotional appeal thing is the only reason I lean town on Sol/IP, I’m now remember long how strongly I felt they were scum for a majority of d1 so I’m trying to leave myself open to it. I’m still way more suss on TM/FL tho.
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I’m gonna throw a vote down on TM because of their criminal inactivity yesterday and generally their gameplay is making me ??? About to get on plane so yay. See you tomorrow
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Dec 15, 2018 10:49
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Dec 15, 2018 10:50
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sounds like some lazy voting. but it makes sense with how dull this day is I will gladly die tonight, but I have to reassure everyone that I'm town, and I hope you have some other theories and you'll not be empty of cases tomorrow.
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##vote IcePhoenix sorry, brah. Solus' turbo suspicion behavior is too strong for me
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Podima posted:Oh here it is. No, disagree, assumes too much about scum motivations or strategies. Like I could see this in a vacuum as an overthinking townie but excusing TM for that alone is a bit much. Fair enough, maybe I'm giving that too much weight. I think I'm still more leery of IP today. I discussed it a bit earlier, then his next three posts after that add nothing of value: they never responded to me about who else they thought was scum, still asked beet to share their thoughts, and then deflected when Dick prompted for content. That doesn't work for me, coupled with the interactions from yesterday. ##vote IP Tired Moritz posted:sounds like some lazy voting. but it makes sense with how dull this day is huh this feels like a real overreaction to one vote?
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Flying Leatherman posted:
I might be too busy to comment any further, so in order to reduce the chances of waking up to find myself lynched without the chance to speak up, I might as well say what I have on my mind before it's late.
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Dec 15, 2018 13:49
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I’ll allow it. ##vote tm
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hambeet posted:hmmm tm or ip freely. I swear you’re the single mafia player I have the most trouble reading  Like I have a scum vibe off beet but I can’t tell if your play this game is normal for you or not 
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Dec 15, 2018 14:46
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I'm a bit light on posting this game, but real life's collided a bit more than usual.
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I thought MMT would have better cases by now.
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Tired Moritz posted:I thought MMT would have better cases by now. I’m one-for-one this game, what’ve you done?
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Podima posted:This is the net sum of IP's big catchup that he references with his last two posts: a non read on Huma and an inactivity callout on beet. This doesn't do anything at all to change my mind about solus from day 1! That was a scum read on humalong, not null. Sorry for not being clear about it. The fight was the main point, with the possible bussing going with it. But my stronger read now is to ##vote beet as he still hasn't generated any content.
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Murmur Twin posted:I’m one-for-one this game, what’ve you done? well it's gonna one scum and one townie, cause im town!!! but seriously though, I figured that there would be more discussion about the other active players that actually interacted with merk than just going with me. I guess it makes sense that scum would post a lot less now that they're one down, but I dont like this sudden drop of action.
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Dec 15, 2018 16:46
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jimmydalad posted:I’m gonna throw a vote down on TM because of their criminal inactivity yesterday and generally their gameplay is making me ??? Just going to point out that after beating the drum all day for me, this is a pretty weak pivot elsewhere after nobody bit on it. At least respond to my stuff! Not voteable right now but raises an eyebrow depending on what happens with TM.
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Murmur Twin posted:Maaaaan I mean honestly the emotional appeal thing is the only reason I lean town on Sol/IP, I’m now remember long how strongly I felt they were scum for a majority of d1 so I’m trying to leave myself open to it. How do you feel now that IP confirmed all they have is reads on Humalong re: merk's comments, and an inactivity based read on beet?
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Just reread beet. There's nuggets of something like cases in the poo poo, or maybe it's just corn. He's at least reading along even if he's not on fire with powerful cases. I think beet is a red herring at this point, I feel like scum beet would be forcing themselves into more activity versus this, but it's a gut read that I'm not intent on. They're low on my priority list and I'm suspicious of people like IP making that one of their cornerstones today with quite a lot to work with otherwise.
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Podima posted:How do you feel now that IP confirmed all they have is reads on Humalong re: merk's comments, and an inactivity based read on beet? What? That's not my read at all. Stop trying to misrepresent my case.
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Ok, fair, a "no content" read on beet - but that's superficial, there's stuff there I saw during my reread just this morning.
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I was talking about Humalong, not beet, but thanks for confirming that you're trying to undermine both my reads 
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IcePhoenix posted:That was a scum read on humalong, not null. Sorry for not being clear about it. The fight was the main point, with the possible bussing going with it. I'm talking about your vote on beet here.
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Someone asked for my read on Kashuno: a quick reread in between transporting inmates and I see a lot of quick posts and someone posting while sick. The last minute hammer is a good way to buy town cred, because if Kash had held out on voting and we had a no-lunch there would be a big target on him and anyone else who failed to vote. So that’s null for me. Beyond that Kash has voted for jimmy and...that’s about it. I’m sticking with a neutral read for now. I don’t know if I like the IP vote, but I like the beet vote even less. I’ll ##vote TM for right now because that’s my strongest scum read at the moment.
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I’ll be back when I can, I’d switch to IP if that’s the consensus vote. Don’t think I would switch to beet just yet though.
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It's funny, I was going to go back and re-read IP but I decided to read d1 again and I think I changed my mind independent of IP's posts this game.merk posted:If I was scum, though, I'd be trying to get us to think about lynching solus because he is low hanging fruit. It feels like too easy of a case because he's not being very careful with his words (which I think Toal implied earlier re: meta). It's kind of like a willie_dee lynch, at least that's how it feels right now. I just can't imagine a world where scum Merk sticks his neck out this much to prevent a town Solus execution. Like if Solus had been town, Merk could have easily just gone along with the vote and probably convince us to execute town. Instead, he tried really hard to move the vote off of Solus and onto Toal/Hum and (at least imo) ended up looking really scummy as a result. I really don't think Merk would play that hard simply to move the vote from one town onto another. ##vote ip Podima posted:How do you feel now that IP confirmed all they have is reads on Humalong re: merk's comments, and an inactivity based read on beet? Yeah I re-read the Humalong case and it feels like a scum fake-case to me. That said, even if it's legit, if we're really playing the "I think Merk named 2 scum and a town" game, I'm pretty sure that Hum (who he was trying to kill) comes out looking better than IP (who he was trying to save)
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Clarification: because as much as I want to believe Solus was frustrated about almost being killed day 1 again because of meta, it does make sense scum would be mad. Especially if they are The Godfather (if there is one) and merk threw himself in front of the train as a lowly goon. (IP replaced Solus right??? God I hope that’s right)
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merk posted:My biggest scum fault is that I do not bus my teammates and, instead, do everything I can to keep them alive. 
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Lol yeah that’s been in my head most of this game day
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Mr. Humalong posted:Lol yeah that’s been in my head most of this game day It’s so perfect because then it allows scum to come in today and try “yeah but look how he said that and then bussed Humalong so hard!!!”
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gently caress I want to vote IP but I’m afraid of being wrong and scum hammers town And I might be under 10 posts still Ah gently caress it ##vote IP if I’m wrong y’all can kill me tomorrow, I think we are still in a good spot with one scum gone day 1.
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