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Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Sketchie posted:

If you're willing to put in a bit of work, you could just make separate save files and play through the game 5 times to get all routes as Anime. Then do it all over again for Michiru.

I'm actually considering just downloading a 100% save so I can NG+ an opposite relationship route with Michiru and maybe show off the seeecret eeeending

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Psycho Knight
Jan 19, 2017

"Being a fangame and not bound to a rating, Pokemon Reborn is able to expand more on topics such as death and the extreme dangers Pokemon could pose. These topics...are treated with the respect such a subject deserves."

Let's throw a Medicham into a volcano and make it give the T2 thumbs up!

mateo360 posted:

I pretty sure it was suppose to be the same. here is mine. It's the same one they show on the back of the box.

Huh, here's the one that I got.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

I don't have the card, but I remember I got Iron Reaver Soul Stealer.

In other news, I literally just finished writing out the third update, hooray. Update after that's gonna be shorter, so I can build my backlog back up.

Psycho Knight
Jan 19, 2017

"Being a fangame and not bound to a rating, Pokemon Reborn is able to expand more on topics such as death and the extreme dangers Pokemon could pose. These topics...are treated with the respect such a subject deserves."

Let's throw a Medicham into a volcano and make it give the T2 thumbs up!

Waffleman_ posted:

I don't have the card, but I remember I got Iron Reaver Soul Stealer.

In other news, I literally just finished writing out the third update, hooray. Update after that's gonna be shorter, so I can build my backlog back up.

Now I'm starting to wonder where the hell this card came from then. I don't recall buying this game used. Maybe it's a regional difference or something. Or a packaging issue. Oh well, not like it matters either way.


Re-reading the updates in more detail, Kagome comes off as kind of a dick in this. It's been a long time since I played this, but I didn't remember her being so nonchalant about another person from her time appearing in that era. At this point she should have some understanding of why she can pass through the well, so knowing that someone else got pulled in through a similar method raises a ton of questions that should really be concerning to everyone. Instead, they all just kind of come off as "Well, let's see if we can send you back home I guess. Nothing better to do right now."

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

I think part of that is that the game kinda tries pretty hard to be agnostic of the actual specific plot of the series. I mean, spoiler alert: there's Naraku, but the game never goes beyond broad character strokes.

Psycho Knight
Jan 19, 2017

"Being a fangame and not bound to a rating, Pokemon Reborn is able to expand more on topics such as death and the extreme dangers Pokemon could pose. These topics...are treated with the respect such a subject deserves."

Let's throw a Medicham into a volcano and make it give the T2 thumbs up!

Waffleman_ posted:

I think part of that is that the game kinda tries pretty hard to be agnostic of the actual specific plot of the series. I mean, spoiler alert: there's Naraku, but the game never goes beyond broad character strokes.

The bane of every anime based game: Rigid compliance with canon. Sword Art Online games are a terrible example of that too I think. That's a series that kind of baffles my mind.

Naraku isn't much of a spoiler. It's a fan service game, he has a contractual obligation to appear. Not like there's any other major antagonists that could fill in.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Yeah, the only real thing connecting this game to any specific point in the series is what characters do and do not show up. (Kanna and Kikyo are hanging out, no weird baby or Band of Seven)

Waffleman_ fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Dec 5, 2018

Edvarius
Aug 23, 2013
Probably for the best. Running into an ancient undead Japanese cyborg tank probably would have broken Kururugi's mind.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Psycho Knight posted:

Not like there's any other major antagonists that could fill in.

Also just wait a couple updates.

Psycho Knight
Jan 19, 2017

"Being a fangame and not bound to a rating, Pokemon Reborn is able to expand more on topics such as death and the extreme dangers Pokemon could pose. These topics...are treated with the respect such a subject deserves."

Let's throw a Medicham into a volcano and make it give the T2 thumbs up!

Waffleman_ posted:

Also just wait a couple updates.

Oh, crap. I don't like that ominous warning. I'm forgetting something important, aren't I?


Edvarius posted:

Probably for the best. Running into an ancient undead Japanese cyborg tank probably would have broken Kururugi's mind.

That guy had a cool design though. Four of that group were just dudes in various types of face paint. Undead Japanese cyborg tank at least stood out.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Psycho Knight posted:

Oh, crap. I don't like that ominous warning. I'm forgetting something important, aren't I?

Let's just say there are

original characters

Rastan Beeza
Apr 3, 2016

Pancakes and vegetables are an important part of a dragon's daily diet.
Oh man, this game...mark me as another nostalgia trip. I was just thinking about playing this game again like last week too.

I ended up stopping my play through because the hand-drawn backgrounds, while pretty, are a pain in the rear end to find where you need to go sometimes if it is dark and you were using a CRT tv. Especially if the game asks you to find things in the dark to progress like a jerk because all early ps2 jrpgs games needed invisible items.

One other thing I remember is that while easy, the battles are really.... really... sloooow. I dunno if I was impatient back as a teen, but animations couldn't be shortened.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Oh, gently caress me, it's.....the worst!

Also, a big update either tomorrow or Friday. I've been working on writing updates for three of the last four days and I may or may not just take my day off from work tomorrow to relax rather than putting together the finishing touches for the update.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!





And watch out for demons we shall. Most major locations in the game will have these roads between them, which is where the majority of your random battles will happen. They are also almost all both visually and narratively uninteresting, so I will probably be skipping most of them unless they're one of the few exceptions. Don't worry, you're missin' 5 minutes of gameplay.



But I guess now's as good a time as any to go over the basics battle system, eh?



So, here's the main battle screen. Up on the top left there is your commands, and most of them are pretty self-explanatory. Top right is the turn order. Different characters will move around the circle based on their speed and they're up when they're at the front. Bottom there's your character status, with the obvious HP bar. The three gray circles are your energy, which builds up as you get hit or make attacks. Every character has up to 300 energy which is represented in a marker for each 100 and is used as such.



Techs are your special abilities, and selecting the option brings up this submenu of different types. Normal techs are special moves that require no energy to use, and as such, once we've all learned some, they'll basically replace the normal attack for the rest of the game. You're not supposed to use them too much because it'll give you the Tired status. It's supposed to make your speed slower, but the effect is negligible, so whatever. SP techs use your energy, nothing too out there. Co-op techs are something I'll go into once we learn one.

All in all, nothing particularly outstanding, but also perfectly serviceable.



"Village Theme 2"

That all aside, welcome to beautiful Akebi Village. We got horses, we got dressers on your backs, we got big guy, we got it all!



We also got trees that we make into coal.



This guy tells us about a spider demon that's lived in a nearby temple for years. It's recently gotten restless and started attacking villagers, so nobody's been able to get to the forest to cut down trees. He warns us not to go and Inuyasha goes "Fucker watch me."

Hmm, those people that attacked us earlier were talking about their missing daughter. Maybe this is a lead.



Huh, well, I guess we wanna question everyone we can see. And this guy says Kakuju has helpful stories. Maybe one of those stories is about a pretty girl who went back to the present.



Excuse me?

What?



"Kakuju"

Um?

[inuyasha] How would you know?

Ha ha ha! I wonder!

Strange Gramps.

So meet Kakuju, one of the original characters created for this game. Fun fact: Kakuju is a woman if you play as a dude.



It doesn't seem likely, but this human has a mysterious power.

Oh. I see.

I don't!

It's nothing, really. Well, Grandpa, exactly what is this power?

Now, I can tell that she's supposed to be saying ojii-san, which literally means "Grandfather," but is often used as a generic form of address for elderly men. Translating it literally just makes it rude, though.



It sounds pretty amazing!

Don't worry too much about all that, Shikigami is functionally just magic.

Well, you've only just awakened your powers. You don't even know how to use them to their fullest potential yet.

I'm pretty helpless.

It's true. Up until now, and even into the next gameplay segment, Kururugi is basically an albatross around the party's neck. Even after we start getting more power, we're going to be the least important fighter.

You can't help it. There's nothing like this in our world.

Your world?

Yes. I'm from a different world, and I was brought here unexpectedly.

Except....you're not. It's a different time.



You couldn't tell from the strange clothing?

I'm sorry. My eyes don't work as well anymore. I can't even tell what you are wearing or what you look like.

I didn't realize that. I'm sorry for what I said.

Heh heh heh, don't worry about it.

So, do you know anything?

Sorry, but I don't know anything that could help you.

I see.

Sorry about that.



We get ready to leave when...

Huh?



But I can teach you how to use the Shikigami power that lies within you. Would you like to learn?

That's great! You should learn how to use it.

Yes. Okay. Please teach me, Grandpa Kakuju.

Again, translating "Kakuju ojii-san" literally comes off really weird and rude. Also, Kakuju never actually said his name, so if you didn't talk to the dude in the previous screen, this comes out of nowhere.

Okay, then stand in front of me, hold my hand, close your eyes, and be very still.







No, no. We just awakened the Shikigami. Now you will learn to use the Shikigami.



If you can properly use Shikigami, the rock will react and break. Go ahead and try it.

Okay.



Instead of just continuing the cutscene, we're inexplicably given control to walk over to the rock, and I spend like half a minute fumbling for the spot where I'm supposed to press X because depth perception in these backgrounds is iffy.







I did it!

That's great!

Whatever, I can do that.

No need to get competitive.

That's right. This isn't the place to be waving your sword around.

Shut up!



Yes, pretty much.

Now, the test will be in putting it to actual use.

Okay. Thank you, Grandpa.

Now let's go find a villager who might know something.



"Village Theme 2"



Turns out most of the villagers know what we already know, that there's a temple with a spider in it and the spider's up to some poo poo.

Also the first guy tried to scare Anime and Kagome and that's rude >:(



Oh hey it's that guy.



Hey, aren't you the one from that time...Did you come to abduct someone again? Hey, everyone! A demon!

NO!





"Cutscene 1"

Oh no, it's those guys.

What nonsense is he talking about?!



Kagome, I am about your age. You're FIFTEEN.

What? Well, what's with the peculiar clothing?

Oh, it's just an unusual circumstance, but we're normal people, like you.

It's true. I'm not a demon.

Hmm...Now that you say that, you do look pretty weak to be a demon.

I can't wait to go back to the present, where they've invented MANNERS.

You finally got it.

I can't believe we were about to capture a kid. So sorry. We were so panicked we couldn't think straight.



A demon has stolen our daughter.

Demon. As in the giant spider demon?

Yes. He came to our village and stole my daughter! And we all went looking for her.

That's when I appeared.

That's right. We saw your strange clothes and thought you were a demon in disguise. It's exactly as he says.

Don't worry about it. But, can I ask you something? Did you see a well anywhere near there?

A well? No, I didn't.

Maybe not a well, but something like it. At least something that looked strange.

I searched that area really well, and I didn't see anything like that. Any of you see anything?

No, there wasn't anything around there.

I see.



It's too bad, but I guess we should head back to Kaede's Village.

...

Wait!

What Kagome?



No, not yet. The young men that went to the old temple to find her never came back. I think I need to go and find her.

What are you saying, Father?

No!

I separated those lines because despite being sequential lines attributed to the same character, they have completely different delivery and I'm....pretty sure they're voiced by different people. Check the vid.

What will we do without you?

drat it! We're no match for a demon that can destroy our homes.

In that case, we'll go after him.

What! You will destroy him for us? Did you hear that everyone?!

How can I thank you?

Please help our daughter, Sachi.

So aside from Gosuke being Sachi's father, I have no loving idea how these three people are related.



I'm so bored from all this walking. I need a little excitement.

Oh, I see.

But...

It's probably just some stale old demon that lives in the old temple. This'll be a piece of cake.

But the villagers said he's been acting differently recently.

Oh shut up, what do you know about demons? Let's just go already! So, where's the old temple?

It's at the end of the village past the rocky expanse. Please help my daughter.



Y'all sure this is a good idea?



Oh well, let's go for it.



This guy basically says there are demons and weird notes and also a save point in the temple. Cool.



"Dungeon"

A couple screens later, we're in a 3D environment. This can't be good.



So, we're in a dungeon now. And I'm gonna level with y'all. This fuckin' place is entirely unremarkable. It's an incredibly simple dungeon with nothing to its name.



There are notes like the guy outside said, but this is the only one that really matters, because it tells you where the one key is.





Otherwise, it's just two very simple floors, a bunch of enemy encounters, and me getting lost for like 15 minutes because I missed this door between the fog and the camera angle and I was an idiot who didn't wanna stop playing and check a drat guide because this was gonna be a video LP when I recorded this.

This game is not really a dungeon-focused game, and when it does do dungeons, they're the pits. This is for the best. I'm saving you looking at me run around and fight demons and saving me having to capture a full half hour of video. Win/win.





"Cutscene 1"

That was me, sorry.

Huh! Really?

That's the smell of blood, no doubt about it. There's a strong smell of human blood.

Be careful, Inuyasha. The smell of blood and the thought of the spider's web are giving me a bad feeling.

Yes, the villagers mentioned the spider's web.

I know. But we can't come this far and turn around.

I know, but...

Tsk. Fine. You guys stay here.

What are you saying, Inuyasha?



Oh, be quiet. It's better to fight a ghost by yourself anyway.

It's a spider.

I'll defeat him quickly, then I'll be back. You guys, stay here.



Always, making decisions on your own.

That's what he said, but really he's trying to keep us from danger.

Really? I didn't hear him say that.

He's just too proud to.

I see.

Wh-What's that?



Kagome walks forward and a little chime rings out.

This...it can't be! I sense shards of the Shikon Jewel.

What?!

There's definitely shards of the Shikon Jewel nearby.

Shards of the Shikon Jewel?

No, let's not get involved, it sounds weird.

It's what we've been looking for this whole time. Originally, it was one sphere. But it was broken into little shards and spread everywhere.

Yeah, "it was broken" as if you didn't do it.

If the demons use the shards they become more powerful.

I didn't know there was anything like it.

I mean, we don't know a lot of things.

If the demon spider has them, then...

Inuyasha is in danger. Shippo let's go.

Okay.

Um, what should I do?

Wait here.

What? O-Okay.





Ah geez, it's scary back here.

I'm really glad they're so concerned about me, but I don't want to be in their way. How can I help everyone?

What is this?!

Aaahh!

What happened?



"Dungeon"

We gotta go!



"Cutscene 2"

What do you think?

Well, well, there's still more of you. Since you've escaped being captured, you should run away. Do you really want me to sucky our blood?

Shut up!

Hahaha! How stupid!



It did a thing!

He's using power from the shards of the Shikon Jewel. You can't win, you have to run away.

Muahahahahah!

If I run away, he'll kill them all. I have to do something! But what should I do?



Give up, little one? Well then, I'm gonna eat you first.

You idiot! Why are you standing there?! Run! Run away!

You have to run away!

Quickly, run away!



The spider tries to attack again, but...

O flame, burning bright...





*CRASH*



There we go.

Wh-what?!

Aaahh!

I'm free from the web!

If only I was.



Great! Now we can get him!

drat you all! I'm going to drink everyone's blood!




[BOSS VIDEO COMING SOON]

The spider demon is our first boss! It's not complicated, just...hit him. Boss strategies are not a thing this game is too cozy with either. The most important thing about this fight is now Anime can use her Shikigami in her normal attack, so she's worth...anything in combat now.



Thank you for helping us. I thought we were done for.

That was really dangerous. What were you thinking?

Oh shut up. Everyone's safe now. That's all that matters.

You can at least say thanks.

Uh Shippo, it sounds like Inuyasha is being a lot more grateful for my help than you are right now, buddy.

That's not necessary. I'm glad I was able to help, even a little.

Well...I guess you aren't totally useless.

Rude but also fair.

What?



I see.

Just shut up, Shippo.

Huh?



"Cutscene 1"

Something's moving over there. It looks like a spider's cocoon.

Do spiders have cocoons?



Don't say that, Kagome.

What are you so afraid of?







A child!



"Cutscene 3"

Are you okay? Does anything hurt?

Sachi: It was a little painful, but I'm okay.

Is your name Sachi?

Sachi: Yes, but how do you know?

Great! Your mom and dad asked us to find you.

I'm glad your safe now. What a relief!

At least he hadn't eaten you yet. Let's go everyone.

Okay.



"Village Theme 2"

Back to the village.

Sachi: Okay. Thank you so much!



Yeah, let's go do that.

We were able to destroy the giant spider, because he taught us the power of Shikigami.

That's a good idea. We sure couldn't depend on that certain someone who said he was gonna take care of it.

Shut up, Shippo!

... (But is voiced as a giggle) Yes, that's a good idea.



"Kakuju"



It looks like you've learned how to use the power of Shikigami much better now. Tell me what happened.

Well...

And then we fade to black.



But I have a premonition that you will be fighting many more demons from now on.

And it's all gonna be a pain in the rear end.

But there's hope.

What a stupid old man!

What the hell was that for? He just said we'd be fighting a lot of demons! The early part of the game really overblows Inuyasha's abrasive personality to the point where it doesn't even make sense for him to be so cranky.

You're so rude, Inuyasha! Sorry, Kakuju.

That's okay.



It can do more than just break rocks. You can use it when you're fighting. If you want to learn the power of Shikigami to help you when you fight, come stand beside me. And close your eyes and be very still.

Okay.





Hey Gramps, is this for real! [sic] (Voice acting says "This is for real") That's cool!

Now I will teach you how to use the power of Shikigami when you are fighting.

Yes, please!

He does this by...



GIVING US A BATTLE TUTORIAL TWO HOURS INTO THE GAME AFTER WE'VE FOUGHT A BOSS ALREADY AND WITH SCREENCAPS THAT SPOIL ALL THE poo poo WE'LL GET WHAT THE HELL

I've gone over all of this so of course I'm not gonna go over it, except that it does explain Co-op techs, which are just double attacks that you can do when you have affinity with other characters. They use both characters' turns and energy, so they're literally only ever useful against bosses.

What the gently caress man.



I'm still a little uncertain, but I'm pretty sure I got it.

That's good for now. Soon you will be able to completely control it. After you gain more experience and learn to use it efficiently, not only will you be able to use it when you fight, but you will also learn to use the many different powers of the Shikigami.

Really?

Yes, really. You should go now. I'm sure we'll meet again.

Okay. Thank you, Grandpa Kakuju.



Our first actual tech! We're useful now!

We should check to see if Sachi made it home.



Hi everyone. I'm glad to see you all came back safely.

Thank you so much. My daughter told me all about what happened. We were waiting for the chance to thank you.

You shouldn't have any more problems with demons for now, right, Inuyasha?

Yeah. But only because we had to face great danger.

Oh yes, it must have been so frightening.



Money?! I don't know if I can take this.

Please accept it. It is our thanks and an apology for how we treated you at first.

Yeah you better.

It's only a little. But perhaps it will help somehow.

But...

I think we should accept it.

You're right. I will accept it then. Thank you.



Everyone, thank you so much!

Sachi: Thank you!



It's nice to do good things, but unfortunately, we didn't get any closer to getting home.



I guess all we can do it go back to Kaede's village and regroup, next time.

[HIGHLIGHT VIDEO COMING SOON]

Psycho Knight
Jan 19, 2017

"Being a fangame and not bound to a rating, Pokemon Reborn is able to expand more on topics such as death and the extreme dangers Pokemon could pose. These topics...are treated with the respect such a subject deserves."

Let's throw a Medicham into a volcano and make it give the T2 thumbs up!

Waffleman_ posted:

Inuyasha is in danger. Shippo let's go.

Okay.

Um, what should I do?

Wait here.

What? O-Okay.

Wait back here in this dark secluded section of a demon infested temple where a giant spider has made its nest and is snatching people.

But I can't fight. If I get attacked--

The half-demon with a magic sword capable of cleaving buildings in two might be in danger! He needs our help way more than you do!

It's like they're trying to get Anime killed so that they don't have to pay attention to any of her needs.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

Waffleman_ posted:

It's nothing, really. Well, Grandpa, exactly what is this power?

Now, I can tell that she's supposed to be saying ojii-san, which literally means "Grandfather," but is often used as a generic form of address for elderly men. Translating it literally just makes it rude, though.
"-chan" in this case, but close enough. I'm not here to nitpick.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

The point still stands.

Edvarius
Aug 23, 2013
And so Kururugi learned how to use the Force! I mean, the Shikigami.

Anyway, the bosses in this game really aren't anything special. I think I only ever had to use actual strategy against one of them. Otherwise it was just "hit hard, keep healed". And the battles themselves are just a pain. Now, for the most part the system is fine. Use weaker attacks to build up power for stronger attacks. Characters can eventually do double techs. Not exactly anything new, but it's perfectly functional. Or at least it would be if every single menu and animation take just a little too long to load. It gets on your nerves very quickly, and makes the battles an absolute chore to get through.

Also, it annoys me that they have that wheel thing in the corner that displays turn order, but you can't ever do anything to actually effect it. Grandia had already come up with a way to make turn wheels more interactive a console generation earlier, there's no excuse.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Yeah, getting the impression it's a step above most licensed games by being functional but that's all it really has going for it.

the character models are cute, I'll give it that.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

So I have a lot of work this week and I have family in town, so I'm probably not gonna have a lot of time to get an update in this week.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!





"Kaede's Village"

Back at it again in Kaede's village.



We're back, Kaede.

Yes, she just said...

So, did you find any clues?

No, not really.

But, we learned how to use the power of Shikigami. Just as Inuyasha was about to get killed, he was saved with the Shikigami power.

Oh, shut up, Shippo!

Yeah, Shippo, you were gonna die too, man. Don't put this all on Inuyasha. Hate this child.

No, it just freed everyone and that was all. I have so much more to learn or I'll just slow everyone down.



I'm sure you're all very tired, so it's probably best if you go to bed now.

Yeah, I'm pretty tired.

I agree. Well, good night, Kaede.



Night.



But I've made some friends and I might be able to get through this.



Hey, Inuyasha. Should we take the day off today?

The day off?

What's up, Kagome?

Our friend must be so exhausted since everything is so new. I thought we could take it easy today.

I see. You're so nice Kagome. I agree.

???: But I don't think it's a good idea for us to split up.

Oh hey Myoga.

Huh? Oh, it's Myoga.



It's been like a couple days. I don't know, this game's weird with time. Even though it takes 5 minutes in-game to get to places, it does act like it takes a while to get from place to place in-universe.

I agree with Kagome's last suggestion. There are demons all around. We should make teams before we take off, just in case.

I agree with Myoga. We don't want to get into any trouble.

So let's make teams of two and go about our day.

Agreed! What do you think Inuyasha?

Well...Sure, why not?

Really?! It's decided then.





So, at specific times in the story, we'll just take the day off and be able to spend time with a party member. It's kind of like a primitive social link system, where you can build up relationships that affect the story at some points and get co-op techs. However, you can only have a story-altering relationship with one character, like a route in a VN. For the sake of the narrative soundness of being able to get a character's entire story, as well as the sake of me not having to stop recording every time one of these happens to poll, I did a singular vote for the entirety of the game.

And you picked Sango. Who isn't here yet. Well, these three all tied, and I figured you just want Anime to hang out with girls, so I picked Kagome.





Good idea, me too!

Let's go too.



Well, no one's been eating very well lately. So I was thinking I could make a good meal.

Wow, Kagome! It's so nice of you to think about everyone's health. You're like a mom!



Can you get some potatoes and onions from the garden? I'll get things ready while you do that.

Now I got issues with this. This is the feudal era of Japanese history, and with the mention of Oda Nobunaga, we can pinpoint it to the Sengoku period, which lasted from about 1467-1600. Potatoes are believed to have been introduced to Japan by Dutch traders in the 17th century, which the Sengoku period is barely in, and potato cultivation didn't become commonplace until the 19th century. So there shouldn't be potatoes. It's entirely possible that Kagome could have brought potato tubers back from the present, but I think it's highly unlikely that a 14 year old girl from Tokyo would know how to grow a potato.

Am I thinking too much about this? Absolutely. But transcribing a badly written game does this to you.

Okay.

Okay to you too.

I'll go get them now!





Perfect! Do you think you could help me a little bit?

Yes, I can. Oh, you're making a bento box!



Each event also has a special picture, hooray.

You're really good at that! Wow!

Ha ha ha. Oh, it's nothing. Now, why are you just standing there? Come and help me.

Sorry. I was just admiring your cooking ability.

First, you can peel the potatoes!

These? Okay, leave it to me!



Oh no! Do you need a band aid? Hey, there's hardly any potato left.

Listen, I'm bleeding and you're flagrantly using trademarked terminology, gently caress the anachronistic potato.

You're kind of clumsy, huh?

Actually, I don't really know how to do this. My mom does it all at home.

Huh?



That's it for Kagome!



Here Shippo is, doing everything he can.

Hmmm!



I'm practicing transforming. Don't bother me.

Practicing? But you're not getting any better.

What?!! Alright, I'll show you what I've been practicing.





See! I'm just like you! Sit!

BURN NOTICE.

Hey...









Pretty sneaky.



Where did he run away to?



You really are improving from your practice.

Shut up!



Anime gained a stronger friendship with Kagome.

And that's the end of the interval.



"Kaede's Village"

Well, we kinda don't have any leads right now. Maybe someone in the village knows what's up.



Well, hello. It's a new friend.



I like cake.



WHOA!

He's just fat.

WHOA!

Shippo! Shhhhh!

Um, cakes? I don't know, I've only just arrived.

Kimbei: I see. You don't know. Hmmmm. Hmmm? Hey, I've seen you before. Now where was it?

Umm, I don't know you, but where did you see me?

Kimbei: Hmmm...where was it? Oh, yes! In Kasasagi Town!

But I don't know where that town is. This is the first time I've heard that name.

Kimbei: No mistake. Kasasagi Town. That's where I saw your face.

It should also be noted that Kimbei here has the shittiest, most stereotypical "dumb fat guy" voice and it sucks and I hate it.



He's not doing anything wrong! He just said he saw us before! This is a lead! Why are you all so mean?!

Let's just ask Kaede about this.



Yes, he said he's seen me before. But I've never been to Kasasagi Town.

He's definitely a bit of a gluttonous young man, but he's no liar.

God, this sucks. Why do we have to poo poo on this poor unimportant NPC so much?

Hmm...I wonder where he's seen me...

KASASAGI TOWN. HE SAID.

If it really bothers you, why don't you go to Kasasagi Town?

I guess so. There isn't much to do around here anyway. And in the city we can hear stories about the shards of the Shikon Jewel.

Are you talking about the sparkling crystals the demon spider had?

Yes.



Oh, don't worry about it.

But I don't want to slow you down.

Slow us down?

What are you guys going on and on about! If we're going to go to Kasasagi Town [voiced line says City instead of Town], we'd better get going.

Are you saying you're going to come too, Inuyasha?

If we go alone, we will almost certainly die, so yeah.



Thank you, Inuyasha.



And off we go! Next time, that is!

Psycho Knight
Jan 19, 2017

"Being a fangame and not bound to a rating, Pokemon Reborn is able to expand more on topics such as death and the extreme dangers Pokemon could pose. These topics...are treated with the respect such a subject deserves."

Let's throw a Medicham into a volcano and make it give the T2 thumbs up!

Waffleman_ posted:

Can you get some potatoes and onions from the garden? I'll get things ready while you do that.

Now I got issues with this. This is the feudal era of Japanese history, and with the mention of Oda Nobunaga, we can pinpoint it to the Sengoku period, which lasted from about 1467-1600. Potatoes are believed to have been introduced to Japan by Dutch traders in the 17th century, which the Sengoku period is barely in, and potato cultivation didn't become commonplace until the 19th century. So there shouldn't be potatoes. It's entirely possible that Kagome could have brought potato tubers back from the present, but I think it's highly unlikely that a 14 year old girl from Tokyo would know how to grow a potato.

Am I thinking too much about this? Absolutely. But transcribing a badly written game does this to you.

You are thinking about this as much as the writers for this game should have been thinking about it. Potatoes should not exist in this time frame.

I remember the mention of Oda Nobunaga that you are referring to from the show. Assuming Kagome didn't suck rear end at history and the ages match up, it means that Inuyasha takes place around 1550 (there's some other stuff involving the Band of Seven that homes in on this date as well from what I recall). The Dutch traders introducing potatoes is said to have happened in 1598. We're a good 45-50 years out from potatoes even being seen, let alone used as a food source (the earliest record of it being grown for food is in the early 1700's).

And like you said, there's no way in hell that a 15-year old girl from Tokyo, who apparently skirts by in terms of grades at school, would know enough about farming to cultivate potatoes. I don't recall any of her relatives being mentioned as having a gift for farming.


Waffleman_ posted:



Well, hello. It's a new friend.



I like cake.



WHOA!

He's just fat.

WHOA!

Shippo! Shhhhh!

Um, cakes? I don't know, I've only just arrived.

Kimbei: I see. You don't know. Hmmmm. Hmmm? Hey, I've seen you before. Now where was it?

Umm, I don't know you, but where did you see me?

Kimbei: Hmmm...where was it? Oh, yes! In Kasasagi Town!

But I don't know where that town is. This is the first time I've heard that name.

Kimbei: No mistake. Kasasagi Town. That's where I saw your face.

It should also be noted that Kimbei here has the shittiest, most stereotypical "dumb fat guy" voice and it sucks and I hate it.



He's not doing anything wrong! He just said he saw us before! This is a lead! Why are you all so mean?!

I forgot what giant assholes some of the heroes in this game are. This is a trope that really bothers me no matter what form of media it appears in. Kimbei is a total bro. He was nice and minding his own business and filling people in on where they can score some awesome cake. He even gave our heroes a much needed lead after the trail had gone completely cold! He was nothing but helpful and nice and pleasant.

Then you guys have to go and poo poo all over him for not weighing less than 130 pounds soaking wet.

Psycho Knight fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Dec 15, 2018

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

#JusticeforKimbei

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Almost par for course for Takahashi protagonists, though If I recall my Inu Yasha - usually Kagome isn't this mean to a complete stranger without provocation.

Worldwalker_Pure
Feb 27, 2015


Psycho Knight posted:

And like you said, there's no way in hell that a 15-year old girl from Tokyo, who apparently skirts by in terms of grades at school, would know enough about farming to cultivate potatoes. I don't recall any of her relatives being mentioned as having a gift for farming.

You might not be able to cultivate them but potatoes are super easy to grow, I did it when I was like sixteen by just straight burying a sprouted potato in the garden.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010
While traditional Chinese agriculture holds that potatoes are flat, in Greek thought they've been widely known to be round since antiquity. In the 3rd century BC, Eratosthenes went so far as to use the difference in the angle of shadows at different latitudes to calculate the circumference of a potato to within just a few percent.

Psycho Knight
Jan 19, 2017

"Being a fangame and not bound to a rating, Pokemon Reborn is able to expand more on topics such as death and the extreme dangers Pokemon could pose. These topics...are treated with the respect such a subject deserves."

Let's throw a Medicham into a volcano and make it give the T2 thumbs up!

Worldwalker_Pure posted:

You might not be able to cultivate them but potatoes are super easy to grow, I did it when I was like sixteen by just straight burying a sprouted potato in the garden.

Fair point, but Kagome asks Anime to run out to the garden and grab a few as though there is a ready supply of them. Kagome and company are also regularly away from the village for various lengths of time. She wouldn't be doing much garden tending. Potatoes are a hardy crop, but she'd have to tend to it somewhat if she was going to get a good cooking crop. You need to be constantly covering them with more dirt and watching moisture at least.

I guess she could have just tossed a bunch of tubers in the ground, but this lunch thing was something she decided on spontaneously, so she must have had some good timing if that was the case.

Waffleman_ posted:

#JusticeforKimbei

#FeudalJusticeforKimbei

He deserved better! :argh:

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer
Kagome can pretty much go to The Present at will, can't she? I bet she brought potatoes to The Past so she can get fries there too. That's what I'd do.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Zanzibar Ham posted:

Kagome can pretty much go to The Present at will, can't she? I bet she brought potatoes to The Past so she can get fries there too. That's what I'd do.

That's the weird thing.

This game....doesn't really acknowledge that outside of us trying the Well. For all intents and purposes, Kagome is as stuck in the past as we are.

Commander Keene
Dec 21, 2016

Faster than the others



Zanzibar Ham posted:

Kagome can pretty much go to The Present at will, can't she? I bet she brought potatoes to The Past so she can get fries there too. That's what I'd do.
You'd risk a TIME PARADOX in order to be able to fry yourself up a heart attack on your time-traveling adventures? For shame. :v:

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer

Commander Keene posted:

You'd risk a TIME PARADOX in order to be able to fry yourself up a heart attack on your time-traveling adventures? For shame. :v:

Yes? I can't think of a more worthy reason personally.

Psycho Knight
Jan 19, 2017

"Being a fangame and not bound to a rating, Pokemon Reborn is able to expand more on topics such as death and the extreme dangers Pokemon could pose. These topics...are treated with the respect such a subject deserves."

Let's throw a Medicham into a volcano and make it give the T2 thumbs up!

Commander Keene posted:

You'd risk a TIME PARADOX in order to be able to fry yourself up a heart attack on your time-traveling adventures? For shame. :v:

Kagome crossed that bridge long ago, and apparently continues to cross it right to the end of the series. Seriously, how did the timeline survive all her trips to the past? She actively blabs about Oda Nobunaga to his face (or at least, she believes it's him). That is absurdly dangerous considering he is responsible for shaping Japan's future.

Waffleman_ posted:

That's the weird thing.

This game....doesn't really acknowledge that outside of us trying the Well. For all intents and purposes, Kagome is as stuck in the past as we are.

That is weird actually. Kagome doesn't ask where Anime came from, about her life, history, or anything like that from the modern era. You'd think she would have a lot of questions. Or she would go to the modern era and search for clues from where Anime disappeared.

Psycho Knight fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Dec 18, 2018

Commander Keene
Dec 21, 2016

Faster than the others



Psycho Knight posted:

That is weird actually. Kagome doesn't ask where Anime came from, about her life, history, or anything like that from the modern era. You'd think she would have a lot of questions. Or she would go to the modern era and search for clues from where Anime disappeared.
Kinda reminds me of Persona Q, where it's a minor plot point that the two parties are pulled from two different points in time, and nobody in the cast notices it until like three-quarters of the way through the game. I wonder if that's the case here.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

A game that puts in effort would've consider it, but this one doesn't really. As for the canon itself, Takahashi tends to ignore any ramifications for the sake of funny.

Edvarius
Aug 23, 2013
Yeah, if Kagome is fine with bringing modern medicine, plastic water bottles, ramen, textbooks, and a gameboy into the past, I doubt she'd balk at potatoes.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Edvarius posted:

Yeah, if Kagome is fine with bringing modern medicine, plastic water bottles, ramen, textbooks, and a gameboy into the past, I doubt she'd balk at potatoes.

Hell, at the end of the series she decides to just live there. Which is somewhat problematic if you think about it too hard.

Psycho Knight
Jan 19, 2017

"Being a fangame and not bound to a rating, Pokemon Reborn is able to expand more on topics such as death and the extreme dangers Pokemon could pose. These topics...are treated with the respect such a subject deserves."

Let's throw a Medicham into a volcano and make it give the T2 thumbs up!

Larryb posted:

Hell, at the end of the series she decides to just live there. Which is somewhat problematic if you think about it too hard.

I avoided mentioning that, but yeah, that creates all kinds of possible issues.

Not to mention, WTF Kagome? Talk about young people making stupid decisions. Me and Takahashi have vastly different ideas about happy/sweet endings.

Psycho Knight fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Dec 18, 2018

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Honestly while I still enjoyed the series I feel like Inuyasha in general had some interesting concepts but probably could have been better handled if it had been done by someone other than Rumiko Takahashi (no offense to her but the thing is she's primarily a comedy writer and not really suited to something like this). It also could have ended at least 100 chapters sooner than it did.

Edvarius
Aug 23, 2013

Larryb posted:

Hell, at the end of the series she decides to just live there. Which is somewhat problematic if you think about it too hard.

Not just live in the past, live in the past with a boy at the general location her family's shrine will be located. Let's face it, girl is her own ancestor.

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Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Larryb posted:

Honestly while I still enjoyed the series I feel like Inuyasha in general had some interesting concepts but probably could have been better handled if it had been done by someone other than Rumiko Takahashi (no offense to her but the thing is she's primarily a comedy writer and not really suited to something like this). It also could have ended at least 100 chapters sooner than it did.

Honestly, Takahashi has a huge issue about ending series, Ranma 1/2 despite being a comedy series also shows a lot of signs of the mangaka's refusal to actually progress the plot in any way. It says something the only person in that series that got their romance issues resolved is Ryoga, the main couple? Nope.

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