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You can't just mention that scene then not post a video clip of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJmuHNDcXLQ I wanna rewatch this show, is there a cheapish way to do it that's not over amazon?
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Check your local library? Mine has the DVDs for season 1-5, though it seems to be missing the movies. Other than that,  ?
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Dec 18, 2018 20:13
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Galvanik posted:You can't just mention that scene then not post a video clip of it Londo’s grimace is almost beautiful.
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Dec 18, 2018 20:27
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mllaneza posted:Nifty ! Yep played with it the other day as well. Good chance it's the original source of the models I grabbed. Too deep into sim territory for my tastes and probably better with a flight stick, but I'm just fiddling around with unity really for mine.
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Dec 18, 2018 20:39
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Hexyflexy posted:Londo’s grimace is almost beautiful. I think the Narn Genocide and the death of Urza have really challenged his idea of what the Centauri Empire was and is. He was probably raised hearing stories of their past glories but never had to face the ugly realities of court and colonialism.
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Dec 18, 2018 21:09
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ThingOne posted:I think the Narn Genocide and the death of Urza have really challenged his idea of what the Centauri Empire was and is. He was probably raised hearing stories of their past glories but never had to face the ugly realities of court and colonialism. It's really encapsulated in his favorite joke: How many Centauri does it take to screw in a light-bulb? Just one, but in the great old days of Republic hundreds of servants would change a thousand light-bulbs at our slightest whim!
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Dec 18, 2018 21:31
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Welp, just started a re-watch of Babylon 5 for the umpteenth time and it's all this thread's fault.
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Dec 19, 2018 14:26
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I watched the season 4 finale on my ride in to work. This is where they weren't sure if they were getting picked back up for another season, right? I think I would be satisfied if the series ended right here. Not everything is tied up and resolved, but there is still a good feeling of closure. I don't know how to describe the finale as anything but delightful, especially that dedication at the end. One glaring omission though: Sheridan didn't jump off anything high.
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Dec 19, 2018 16:34
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wizzardstaff posted:I watched the season 4 finale on my ride in to work. Deconstruction of Falling Stars or Sleeping in Light? The latter was made at the end of S4, but was shown at the end of S5; the former was made at the start of S5, but shown at the end of S4.
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Dec 19, 2018 17:25
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Oh, good question, I wasn't aware of that production order. It was Deconstruction of Falling Stars; I'm watching in the order presented by Amazon.
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Dec 19, 2018 17:37
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Wait until you get to Sleeping in Light, then!
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Dec 19, 2018 18:16
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Galvanik posted:I wanna rewatch this show, is there a cheapish way to do it that's not over amazon? Do you get digital antenna sub-channels? The scifi channel Comet is playing B5 daily, they should be getting back around to season 1 sometime in mid-January by my estimate.
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Dec 19, 2018 23:38
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hangedman1984 posted:Welp, just started a re-watch of Babylon 5 for the umpteenth time and it's all this thread's fault. Same. Started a few weeks ago. Currently rewatching The Fall Of Night, which is still probably my favorite episode in the entire show. The scene with Zach and the Nightwatch rep is just so uncomfortable and is a great example of how societal pressure can make good people do bad things.
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Dec 20, 2018 00:32
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As it turns out my local Library does have all 5 seasons  I never would have guessed that they'd have anything old like that. With books they're usually just whatever current stuff was released, then as soon as they're a few years old they get tossed.
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Dec 20, 2018 01:28
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Come the Inquisitor was interesting, at times it felt more like I was watching a play than a TV show. I'm not entire sure what the Vorlon's angle was. I guess they wanted to make sure Delenn and Sheridan weren't doing it for their own glory?
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Dec 20, 2018 05:05
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I’m eight episodes into season four and I have to say that the mincing Centauri major domo guy is giving Draal a run for his money as best tertiary character. The actor seems to be taking inspiration from Are You Being Served, and I love it. Cartagia gets some points for excessive camp.
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Dec 20, 2018 05:06
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lol, thanks, I can already see and hear him saying "you've all done very well" Edit: oh jeez I just realized you meant Mr. Humphries 
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Dec 20, 2018 05:20
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Draal is just the best. Zathras is close. Does Morden count as tertiary? He’s up there too, if so. Centauri chamberlain is also great but not on the level of any of those. I mean I can’t even remember his name.
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Dec 20, 2018 05:26
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The depiction of Cartagia was clearly... let's say inspired by John Hurt's Caligula in I, Claudius, so if you liked that, go watch it. Bonus: Patrick Stewart with hair and Brian Blessed without a beard.
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Dec 20, 2018 05:29
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ConfusedUs posted:Draal is just the best. Zathras is close. Does Morden count as tertiary? He’s up there too, if so. I don't think he ever gets a name. ThingOne posted:Come the Inquisitor was interesting, at times it felt more like I was watching a play than a TV show. I'm not entire sure what the Vorlon's angle was. I guess they wanted to make sure Delenn and Sheridan weren't doing it for their own glory? Basically. The Inquisitor says something like So, what if you do this and you die alone, forgotten and unremembered, in the dark where no one knows you did anything at all?
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Dec 20, 2018 05:46
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:I’m eight episodes into season four and I have to say that the mincing Centauri major domo guy is giving Draal a run for his money as best tertiary character. The actor seems to be taking inspiration from Are You Being Served, and I love it. I really love Draal for just being the least Minbari-esque Minbari. He's so old and wise he just does not give two shits about decorum and tradition anymore. "I rather liked the song..."
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Dec 20, 2018 05:57
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Yeah, there's clearly an attempt to do I, Centauri showing through quite clearly. JMS pulled it off too, the Centauri plots were some of the very best parts of the show.
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Dec 20, 2018 05:58
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Well that escalated...everything. So Earthgov has decided to drop the act and go full fasc and of course that means they're cozying up with the Centauri. Meanwhile the Centauri are so high on their own success they think they could've attacked Babylon 5 and gotten away with it. They're going to overreach eventually and get burned bad and I doubt Space Satan is big on helping out failed minions. I'm not sure if Londo not being able to see Kosh is a sign of how far he's fallen or if it means that the Vorlons never tampered with the Centauri. Edit: The fact that the Vorlons have apparently conditioned younger races to see them as angels is a bit odd in it's own right. If the Shadows are such bad news it seems like you wouldn't need extra prodding to accept the their help. ThingOne fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Dec 20, 2018 |
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Dec 20, 2018 06:02
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I really love Draal for just being the least Minbari-esque Minbari. He's so old and wise he just does not give two shits about decorum and tradition anymore. I recall Dukhat having some similar characterization the few times we saw him in flashbacks. There were a couple points he basically told the rest of the Grey Council to quit being assholes, assholes. Maybe it's the beard.
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Dec 20, 2018 06:23
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Anyone talking about tertiary characters needs to wait until the series is over and then talk to me about Neroon.
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Zorak of Michigan posted:Anyone talking about tertiary characters needs to wait until the series is over and then talk to me about Neroon. TER-ti-AARRY
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:I don't think he ever gets a name. His name is Virini, but I think it’s only said once, in his last appearance. quote:Basically. The Inquisitor says something like So, what if you do this and you die alone, forgotten and unremembered, in the dark where no one knows you did anything at all? And this comes back in a later season.
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Dec 20, 2018 06:57
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Also, RIP space-fighter dude. I'd say you'll be missed but I don't think you actually did anything.
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ThingOne posted:Also, RIP space-fighter dude. I'd say you'll be missed but I don't think you actually did anything. The studio mandated a "Hot-shot pilot" character. JMS just showed them what he thought of that idea.
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Dec 20, 2018 07:02
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I'll admit I was wrong about Zack, even if it did take him way too long to figure out that maybe the black armband wearing informant network might not be on the up-and-up.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:The depiction of Cartagia was clearly... let's say inspired by John Hurt's Caligula in I, Claudius, so if you liked that, go watch it. Bonus: Patrick Stewart with hair and Brian Blessed without a beard. Go watch it anyway. It's one of the greatest dramatic presentations the BBC ever did, and that is not a low bar to clear. You'll come away thinking (HBO's) Rome was poo poo.
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Zorak of Michigan posted:Anyone talking about tertiary characters needs to wait until the series is over and then talk to me about Neroon. Oh Neroon, you magnificent bastard. I scanned your ship. Admittedly, in his last scene the director should have slapped JMS with a rolled up copy of the script until they got a version that wasn't... aggressively theatrical. Neroon is still a great character.
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Is there any point where when presented with a chance to get aggressively theatrical, B5 says 'no'? It's one of my favourite things about the show, there's few things I love more than an actor with a good chunk of scenery in their teeth.
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Dec 20, 2018 09:41
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ThingOne posted:Well that escalated...everything. Understanding is a three edged sword
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Dec 20, 2018 10:40
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Finally got back to moving through season 3 and just finished And The Rock Cried Out No Hiding Place. Nothing on this Earth could have prepared me for Refa getting offed to that song and I wouldn't have it any other way. That was buckwild.
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Dec 20, 2018 11:29
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That episode is one of my favorites
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Dec 20, 2018 11:33
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One of the moments I look forward to when watching with new viewers. 
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nerdman42 posted:Finally got back to moving through season 3 and just finished And The Rock Cried Out No Hiding Place. Nothing on this Earth could have prepared me for Refa getting offed to that song and I wouldn't have it any other way. That was buckwild. I think this is the very moment, for me, where the show takes the last turn from excellent, and becomes sublime.
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:I think this is the very moment, for me, where the show takes the last turn from excellent, and becomes sublime. I've said it before, but I also think it's the moment when B5 changes from "Trek-esque 80-style thinky sci-fi" to "prestige drama that I'd expect to see on AMC"
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Zorak of Michigan posted:Anyone talking about tertiary characters needs to wait until the series is over and then talk to me about Neroon. Neroon and Ta'Lon were two characters with...maybe a dozen appearances each that fought way above their weight class for character development and importance versus time allowed.
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