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Tokamak posted:Machine learning will solve it... I'm just imagining Portal like ball AI just watching over an intersection, going "oops... whoopsie... ouch... come on, that one was close!" as it tries to direct Teslas through a junction and they just mulch up into piles of wreckage and gore that slowly fill up the tunnel.
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what if musk uses block chain to solve the merging problem what then, nerds
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Raldikuk posted:No, you load the cars into a tunnel and they drive themselves. How this is any different than a single lane one way road is unclear to me. The entire reason why this can't be just a car tunnel with a single lane one way road is that it's too narrow for the car to be able to drive there at any meaningful speed unassisted. Even if they ramped it further up the profile you'd still have way too little room for a normal driver to drive through there at 100km/h, let alone the 300km/h he's talking about being the eventual target. The reason why the cars have to go 150mph is that otherwise the capacity will be pointlessly low. Why not guide the cars electrically? I guess even Musk sobered up enough about their ability to implement robust electromechanical systems that wouldn't risk pasting the car against the wall at some random moment. Okay, so why not make just... a tunnel, you ask? Why not simply channel the traffic underground with a network of normal roads like you would in Cities skylines? Boring company's entire scam about being super revolutionary about tunnel boring is based on them using a boring machine intended for sewers. Their entire "super cheap" and "super fast" tunneling completely relies on nothing but the tunnel being tiny. They can't make a proper car tunnel because it'd cost like a normal car tunnel, and like any other car tunnel of this scale and purpose, would be simply too expensive. It's literally an engineering pyramid scheme of trying to figure out workarounds a massive technological limitation you imposed onto yourself to save money. Teal has issued a correction as of 09:43 on Dec 23, 2018 |
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Admiral Ray posted:what if musk uses block chain to solve the merging problem Hire a Byzantine general to guard each entrance and signal to the others with a lit torch when a car approaches the main tunnel.
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Why is there a pit in the ground under the ledges where the wheels are supposed to go instead the ground just being flat?
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Dec 23, 2018 10:08
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Admiral Ray posted:what if musk uses block chain to solve the merging problem 6 years from now "Sorry boss, Ill be at work soon...yeah...my cars calculating every tesla trip theres ever been and the file is 17tb"
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Dec 23, 2018 10:14
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it’s almost like Elon is testing us to see how far he can go on like this
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CPL593H posted:Why is there a pit in the ground under the ledges where the wheels are supposed to go instead the ground just being flat? that's the evacuation route if your car breaks down yes, seriously
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Dec 23, 2018 10:28
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BEAR GRYLLZ posted:that's the evacuation route if your car breaks down 
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BEAR GRYLLZ posted:that's the evacuation route if your car breaks down It's also the maintenance walkway. This way, when they're doing something like having to repair cable they won't have to shut down the tunnel. The maintenance crew can just lay down as each vehicle passes over them at 150 mph and work in between.
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Dec 23, 2018 11:01
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how many people has elon killed
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turn off the TV posted:Isn't it basically a lovely copy of the curb guided bus concept that has been in use for decades at this point? The kerbs in KGB lines are bespoke tolerance and or machined to dimension to prevent failure mode number 2 (you can't gain any lateral momentum because both wheels are always, or always almost in contact with their guidance kerbs) A bus also uses a different style of steering, without a rack and pinion drive. Instead the steering transmission usually works with a ballscrew spindle that is insanely robust and the whole steering geometry in busses is meant for much more extreme abuse than on a tesla, so that case Nr 1 can be mitigated as well. Plus they don't go 150 mph (neither does elons douche tube obviously)
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CPL593H posted:Why is there a pit in the ground under the ledges where the wheels are supposed to go instead the ground just being flat?
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So was the tunnel a bait and switch? Like, is he going in front of Governors and giving a 45 minute pitch for a Hyper loop, then at the very end asking if they'd let him build a tunnel? Imagine hearing a sales pitch for what a Mars colony could be, then Elon offering, "So, would you like a *wink* *wink* flight to Mars?"
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:lmao my coworker bought a used model s lol imagine buying a used tesla
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Sir Tonk posted:i just thought about what wouold happen if someone asked musk to design a coffee maker Probably a Keurig that calls you a pedophile
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Sir Tonk posted:i just thought about what wouold happen if someone asked musk to design a coffee maker https://thespoon.tech/alpha-dominche-shuts-down-is-commercial-coffee-tech-dead/ quote:The company recently crowdfunded over $230,000 to manufacture the Flask Coffee Brewer, a relatively simple manual coffee maker, but they won’t end up shipping a single product. No refunds or late arrivals. The servers for the coffee machines was taken offline, so the next time they reboot they stop working forever, lol Powershift has issued a correction as of 15:19 on Dec 23, 2018 |
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Warm und Fuzzy posted:So was the tunnel a bait and switch? Like, is he going in front of Governors and giving a 45 minute pitch for a Hyper loop, then at the very end asking if they'd let him build a tunnel? I honestly don't think Musk even has a plan at this point. He's just juggling all the balls and hoping he doesn't drop anything. Meanwhile, his ego makes him keep picking up new balls.
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Powershift posted:https://thespoon.tech/alpha-dominche-shuts-down-is-commercial-coffee-tech-dead/ Should be illegal to make things that dont have some fallback mode to work without servers
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no pubes yet sorry posted:Mush should have just made pneumatic tubes a la bank cylinder transport pods a reality. The tragedy/comedy would be a lot higher than people inevitably getting trapped in a tube with no oxygen. historical note for those unfamiliar: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beach_Pneumatic_Transit
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the onion wizard posted:I'd been thinking about the switching/merging on the tunnels issue too, even small railway yards are insanely complicated. And that's before even thinking about the routing & coordination required. he couldn't figure out the ramps on the previous iteration of his transportation idea https://twitter.com/jennakchandler/status/1060675222125203456
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CPL593H posted:Why is there a pit in the ground under the ledges where the wheels are supposed to go instead the ground just being flat? gotta get that little bit of excavation to turn that dirt into sweet sweet bricks. thats where the real money is at
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CPL593H posted:Why is there a pit in the ground under the ledges where the wheels are supposed to go instead the ground just being flat? because filling it in to flatten it out would use more concrete, which goes against the boring company ethos of cutting as many corners as possible Warm und Fuzzy posted:So was the tunnel a bait and switch? Like, is he going in front of Governors and giving a 45 minute pitch for a Hyper loop, then at the very end asking if they'd let him build a tunnel? nah, they're totally separate things he's pitching hyperloop for long-range travel, and he's also pitching regular tunnels as a replacement for literally every road ever he's just trying to pitch as many tunnel-related ideas as possible in order to drum up business for his tunnel-boring business
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Lord Stimperor posted:Should be illegal to make things that dont have some fallback mode to work without servers In the age of Apple products and electric cars, consumers simply don't give a gently caress anymore about reliability, longevity or serviceability. The term "it just needs to drive me from a to b" that started off as a defense for people not interested in the cars they drive has become the epithomy of the modern car customer. Everything is build to utmost hide the fact from you that you are actually driving a machine and not a smartphone. Every mechanical component must be hidden. Service through the user, if at all, happens through bespoke ports and at best the user is not even to see any part of the engine if he opens This has long transcended the automotive world though. My grand uncle was a watchmaker - people throwaway watches nowadays even if it's just lacking a new battery - Electronics repair - impossible. Nearly every household product : -is in a welded plastic enclosure -uses chips that require a Full blown rework station to solder - if you can even get replacements -refuses operation if you service it due to some tamper proof mechanism -has a gentle Form of planned obsolescence build into it. It's sad to engineer these things but it's even sadder that people actively demand this crap and support it through their purchasing behavior. There are plenty options for the consumer to save money, buy alternative products, buy reliable products, hell buy second hand... But for an unexplainable reason people love to spend money on rapidly devaluating low lifespan junk that comes in the sleekest design with the highest number of touchscreens. Sorry for the rant. Combat Theory has issued a correction as of 19:15 on Dec 23, 2018 |
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Basically the internet age didn't turn people into incredibly tech savvy digital citizens as wide-eyed sociologists foolishly predicted. Every idiot carrying a computer with them at all times just means computers are now designed for idiots, and probably encourage people to be idiots.
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my mom was semi-comedically going off about how millennials are way worse than boomers and it was mostly about how we sold our personal information, and everybody else's, to google or the NSA in return for token comforts, which previous generations might've done with the opportunity but factually just didn't do as much. we're the ones who came of age when that particular part of our souls became commodifiable i cant really disagree edit: i think she also said millennials have done a massive amount to make society less equal but we like to blame it all on the boomers. i haven't bothered to look up the timeline on income inequality, it might be true edit: to be as clear as my spastic rear end can be, she's not trying to dodge the facts of the situation, the reagan era and all that, e.g. she knows that inequality started growing 30 years before millennials were born. she's both loving with me and trying to point out the uniquely hosed up things that younger generations are doing as well oystertoadfish has issued a correction as of 19:31 on Dec 23, 2018 |
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oystertoadfish posted:my mom was semi-comedically going off about how millennials are way worse than boomers and it was mostly about how we sold our personal information, and everybody else's, to google or the NSA in return for token comforts, which previous generations might've done with the opportunity but factually just didn't do as much. we're the ones who came of age when that particular part of our souls became commodifiable Boomers raised millennials.
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drgitlin posted:Boomers raised millennials. yeah we kinda mutually concluded that we were poison and the people in high school right now are our only hope they'll fail too, it'll be interesting to see how
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:he couldn't figure out the ramps on the previous iteration of his transportation idea musk is a big fat idiot but I feel like this has to be tongue in cheek im gettin poe's lawed by a billionaire I guess
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Powershift posted:https://thespoon.tech/alpha-dominche-shuts-down-is-commercial-coffee-tech-dead/ anyone that paid fifteen grand for a coffee maker deserves this Lord Stimperor posted:Should be illegal to make things that dont have some fallback mode to work without servers this would be a smart thing for some enterprising senator to make his hobby horse, or a presidential candidate.
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Main Paineframe posted:because filling it in to flatten it out would use more concrete, which goes against the boring company ethos of cutting as many corners as possible it's the emergency escape path
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SardonicTyrant posted:I like to imagine a show where Musk and other SV "visionaries" build a rocket to escape a dying Earth and the whacky exploits they have as it It’s pretty much the Golgafrincham Ark B, really.
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Main Paineframe posted:he's just trying to pitch as many tunnel-related ideas as possible in order to drum up business for his tunnel-boring business Pretty weird how like half of the water sewage systems in the country need to be replaced and this dude wants his digging company's cheaper sewer bores to find work digging underground death roads.
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RyokoTK posted:It’s pretty much the Golgafrincham Ark B, really. which shows how unselfaware he is, because he claims to love HHGTTG.
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lol if you blame the consumer and not the capitalists that control the economy and the capitalist system for massive inequality and lovely products with planned obsolescence https://twitter.com/zupzles/status/1072847790877892609
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BEAR GRYLLZ posted:that's the evacuation route if your car breaks down exploded mummy posted:it's the emergency escape path You all are being way too charitable with the assumption that planning went into this. It didn't. And they pride themselves on it. The gap is there because the hole is cylindrical because they used a circle shaped hole boring machine. The two curbs are there because they added the bare minimal material for wheels to drive on. That's all. Like, they didn't even plan for the 150mph congo line of cars having to decelerate at the end and go out of sync from the cars one second behind them, to wait for a one-car elevator to come back, so they most definitely didn't plan for any "extras" like emergency stuff. Happy Thread has issued a correction as of 20:51 on Dec 23, 2018 |
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:he couldn't figure out the ramps on the previous iteration of his transportation idea Musk then emailed "profit part was getting tricky". So, fraud.
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The owner of Youtube channel Engineering Explained bought a Model 3 recently. Guess whats wrong with it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSLTNjGI8hw
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Dumb Lowtax posted:You all are being way too charitable with the assumption that planning went into this. It didn't. And they pride themselves on it. The gap is there because the hole is cylindrical because they used a circle shaped hole boring machine. The two curbs are there because they added the bare minimal material for wheels to drive on. That's all. Yeah, whatever. Next you'll tell me that their plan to reduce congestion by adding as many diverging entrances and exits as possible would defeat the entire purpose of a grade separated, limited access roadway. Do you really think that powerful brain genius Elon Musk would have failed to notice completely obvious conceptual failures, or even worse, be trying a grift? turn off the TV has issued a correction as of 20:51 on Dec 23, 2018 |
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