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Drone Jett posted:If Butcher was writing at a reasonable pace he’d have already published Peace Talks years ago and none of you would have been confused. What a jerk! Oh please don't start this whiny entitlement complex horseshit again.
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Drone Jett posted:If Butcher was writing at a reasonable pace he’d have already published Peace Talks years ago and none of you would have been confused. What a jerk! Oh boy 
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Does Air France have a reputation for crashing?
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biracial bear for uncut posted:Does Air France have a reputation for crashing? Crashing in a metaphoric sense, yes. Very Dresden Files "peace talks" meta. Peace Talks aka "negotations" in modern France have always been insane, Air France especially so. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/05/air-france-workers-storm-meeting-protest-executives-job-losses-paris https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-14/air-france-labor-talks-weighed-down-by-pilot-leader-s-fate
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biracial bear for uncut posted:Does Air France have a reputation for crashing? Coincidence, I think. The jet is Boeing: they have a very distinct pull-up alarm.
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Skippy McPants posted:Coincidence, I think. The jet is Boeing: they have a very distinct pull-up alarm. Yeah, I found that picture and saved it only because of the "Pull Up" txt, not because of the carrier logo.
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Read that as “Full Up” for a second and thought the implication was the entire thread was going down with no survivors.
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Jan 2, 2019 18:51
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A very valid interpretation given the last few pages.
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Jan 2, 2019 21:25
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In fact, Air France's most high profile crash was caused by too much pulling up.
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Just finished the newest Laundry files audiobook and I don't think it was very good. Even going into it with the knowledge that it was a new narrator (and funnily enough that there has been new narrators in the past hasn't bothered me) the new narrator was just, awful. Everyones voices sounded completely different from their characters. Pete turned from a northernly english vicar to a gruff scotsman. Pinky and brain turned scotsmen as well? And then there's the events of the story. Pete turned into a nazgul fang and probably going to commit suicide, brains and derek also turned into fangs. It was a pyhhric victory when they're short of resources as it currently stands.
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Jan 5, 2019 23:38
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tithin posted:Just finished the newest Laundry files audiobook and I don't think it was very good. The series ended 3 books ago when Cthulhu ate planet earth. The end.
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Jan 6, 2019 08:12
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As much as I want to read Peace Talks, I want to read book two of The Cinder Spires far more! Anyway, looking for some suggestions. I need a new series to read, tried The Laundry Files and it didn't do it. The first Monster Hunter International book by Larry Correia was good, but I didn't make it through the second one, just seemed like more of the same thing from the first book. I love Dresden, I really liked the Nightside books by Simon R Green to give a baseline of books I like in this genre, any suggestions for a good series that I haven't tried yet? I'd like if they were good in audiobook format too, since I listen to audiobooks while working out and am fresh out there as well. I just finished what's out so far of a couple different Sci-Fi series, so I figured I'd switch it up for a bit.
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Jan 6, 2019 08:52
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when is the new dresden files out
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deathbagel posted:As much as I want to read Peace Talks, I want to read book two of The Cinder Spires far more! Slightly off genre, more scifi techno-thriller but my goto recommendation for a series that is a fun read and good as audiobooks is Patrick Lee's Breach Trilogy
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deathbagel posted:As much as I want to read Peace Talks, I want to read book two of The Cinder Spires far more! The Revanche Cycle & The Wisdom's Grave Trilogy? The Broken Earth series is also good.
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Fallom posted:The series ended 3 books ago when Cthulhu ate planet earth. The end. Which one was three books ago? I forgot. Also, why the disdain for the new ones?
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Jan 6, 2019 17:20
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Thank you, I'll check out those suggestions!
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Jan 6, 2019 18:23
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A lot of people seem to enjoy the books more when Bob was the narrator but he's gotten too far up the power scale to really be usable. Also the world ending keeps getting pushed back and back.
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Jan 6, 2019 18:28
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smertrioslol posted:Which one was three books ago? I forgot. Also, why the disdain for the new ones? Stross couldn't figure out where to go with the main character and decided to branch out into other perspectives to varying results, which wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't painfully obvious that he's spinning his wheels because he can't figure out what to do with the main plot. He had similar issues with another series he wrote. imo he moved too fast and the right place to stretch things out was way earlier in the series when he was writing about the adventures of Bob Howard the working-level government functionary and not when the end of the universe was literally happening but apparently isn't such a big deal that he can't drop another half dozen novels without moving things forward. Also the superheroes plotline was loving stupid. Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Jan 6, 2019 |
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I kinda LIKE that the series is a continued set of Pyrrhic victories at this stage of the game. Case Nightmare was always about the survival of humanity at any cost, and the cost was always assumed to be very high. What I don’t like are the new first person protagonists who sound nearly just like Bob but aren’t Bob. If they were more distinct, maybe it would help. But instead we have not-Bob with Bob-adjacent problems
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So I had a few weeks off work and I've made my way through most of the Dresden series, enjoying it for the most part though I found myself reading through faster and faster as everything gets a bit formulaic. Then I hit book 13, Ghost Stories. What's peoples take on this one? I pretty much gave up on the series after trying to get through the first few chapters of this steaming pile of poo poo, so I skipped to the end where Harry, quite predictably, is bought back to life and moved on to book 14 which so far seems a return to form.
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BurgerQuest posted:So I had a few weeks off work and I've made my way through most of the Dresden series, enjoying it for the most part though I found myself reading through faster and faster as everything gets a bit formulaic. Then I hit book 13, Ghost Stories. It's my favorite book of the series which is usually a book's death knell as far as anyone else is concerned.
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BurgerQuest posted:So I had a few weeks off work and I've made my way through most of the Dresden series, enjoying it for the most part though I found myself reading through faster and faster as everything gets a bit formulaic. Then I hit book 13, Ghost Stories. Ghost Story is the book that defeated its author, and it shows. It is my least favorite of the series.
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Didn't like it at first but once it got going I thought it was pretty good.
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BurgerQuest posted:So I had a few weeks off work and I've made my way through most of the Dresden series, enjoying it for the most part though I found myself reading through faster and faster as everything gets a bit formulaic. Then I hit book 13, Ghost Stories. I’ll give it a reread but I liked it, especially the Star Trek bridge scene. The book also sets up the big “wtf” Harry scenes for skin game.
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Ghost Story is just boring and uncreative which is a huge problem for a gimmick book. It's mostly an excuse to do some flashing back and Harry coming to terms with guilt but honestly Cold Days and even Skin Game did that better. It might not be a problem except the new characters it introduces are unmemorable and dull and Butcher clearly couldn't figure out how to make ghost scenes interesting so they're all just regular fight scenes.
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Good to know I'm not completely nuts. To be honest I pretty much blitz through all the battles as they come up, it's some boring poo poo and the outcomes are the same 99% of the time. If it seems like I missed some dialogue important to the plot I'll skip back for it. I can see myself getting through these last two ok. Are his other series worth checking out after?
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Fallom posted:Stross couldn't figure out where to go with the main character and decided to branch out into other perspectives to varying results, which wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't painfully obvious that he's spinning his wheels because he can't figure out what to do with the main plot. He had similar issues with another series he wrote. Wheel spinning? Outside of the superhero book (which also first outed the whole thing to the public and set up a bunch of stuff for the current situation) I don't see it, since every book moves things very, very quickly into the endgame of the Apocalypse, which seems a fine pace, since he said the whole story will be over in 3-4 books.
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I thought Ghost Story was about at the same level as the rest of the series but I disliked that bit where he's in Molly's mind and it's the bridge of the starship Enterprise. I'm not sure why. I just didn't like it. At the same time, I feel like I was getting less and less interested in Dresden in general around that time. Maybe if I read them all again I'd be more charitable.
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Dresden is one of the more consistent series, but the more the "big story" takes over, the less compelling they are for me. They aren't really the Dresden files anymore, the casebooks, but incrimental reveals of a story I don't like that much. Butcher is still entertaining, but less compelling.
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BurgerQuest posted:So I had a few weeks off work and I've made my way through most of the Dresden series, enjoying it for the most part though I found myself reading through faster and faster as everything gets a bit formulaic. Then I hit book 13, Ghost Stories. A mild thread consensus (?) and my take is that Ghost Stories works as an interlude book if you consider Changes-Ghost Stores-Cold Days as a 3 part arc. Individually I find it weaker than the average books because the change of pace isn't as well executed.
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Xtanstic posted:A mild thread consensus (?) and my take is that Ghost Stories works as an interlude book if you consider Changes-Ghost Stores-Cold Days as a 3 part arc. Individually I find it weaker than the average books because the change of pace isn't as well executed. I liked it better on a re-read than I did originally.
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I don't like Ghost Story even on reread, but I listen to Dresden on audiobook so it's impossible for me to separate my dislike of Ghost Story as a book from the fact that it's the only DF book without James Marsters as a narrator, which really colored my experience.
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:I don't like Ghost Story even on reread, but I listen to Dresden on audiobook so it's impossible for me to separate my dislike of Ghost Story as a book from the fact that it's the only DF book without James Marsters as a narrator, which really colored my experience. After fan outcry, James Marsters went and read it, so see if you can hunt down that version.
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If you got it through Audible it should switch to the Marsters version the next time you download it.
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Aerdan posted:After fan outcry, James Marsters went and read it, so see if you can hunt down that version. Audible even gave it to people for free as a replacement of the old narrators version, which they also let people keep.
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tithin posted:Audible even gave it to people for free as a replacement of the old narrators version, which they also let people keep. Was that a limited time thing? Cause I just checked and it says it’s $10 for me still, even owning the old one.
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EVGA Longoria posted:Was that a limited time thing? Cause I just checked and it says it’s $10 for me still, even owning the old one. Contact their support. I think it was a time limited thing, but they might take care of you
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Decius posted:Wheel spinning? Outside of the superhero book (which also first outed the whole thing to the public and set up a bunch of stuff for the current situation) I don't see it, since every book moves things very, very quickly into the endgame of the Apocalypse, which seems a fine pace, since he said the whole story will be over in 3-4 books. I haven't finished the most recent one yet, but I'm still very much enjoying the series. I could have done with 1 or 2 more Bob novellas but I could see that getting repetitive pretty easy. As for the "superheroes" being dumb... did people miss the point of that? The whole TLEAF/TPCU/whatever thing was propaganda and I'm sure it's supposed to appear to the reader as just as hokey and dated looking as the "safe within the magic circle" posters that Pete digs up that one time. Or did people get it but think it was lame? I enjoyed it for the same reasons and on the same level that I liked the rest od the series.
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I've not really kept up with the last few Laundry books. I think the last one I read would have been the one with Mo as the narrator. They were just a bit too miserable for me; the earlier ones were pretty bleak themselves but I feel that they still had a sense of humour. Maybe I'll try them again when the series is done. I'm not really reading much in the way of new urban fantasy these days. I'll read a Kim Newman book when it comes out and he's still my favourite in the genre inasmuch as he's in it, and I still check out Rivers of London when it gets a new one (though I'm always behind on them because I wait for the paperback release), but lately I haven't felt much of an inclination towards any particular author. For ages I thought I would re-read the Dresden Files but I've not really been able to muster the enthusiasm for whatever reason.
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