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G-Prime posted:If you don't care about the 10 key, the Massdrop CTRL drop is ending (tonight, I think) with immediate shipping, and you could just buy Light Grey switches and pop them in easily. Lighting on it works great, and the configuration is easy enough. I suppose I left that information out; I think I'd want the 10-key. I don't use it a TON, but there are times when it's nice. I hadn't considered going the swappable switch route, so that's interesting (and opens up some possibilities). A question about that QMK firmware: how does that work with the backlighting? Because it'd be my work keyboard, I probably couldn't install any sort of software on the computer. I know there are some keyboards out there that let you let up the backlight info, then save the customization to the board itself. Is this one of those?
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Yeah, it's fully programmed to the board. For example,code: They ship it with the following pre-defined code:
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Today I flashed my Tada68 with a proper DFU bootloader and it is so much better than the crappy mass storage one the Tada ships with. My keyboard just seemed like it was slowly degrading more and more when I would try out new keymaps. First macros stopped working, and then new versions of QMK just wouldn't work with it at all, and then it just essentially bricked and stopped mounting as a mass storage drive when I put it in programming mode. After initial panic I read that it was possible to unbrick the thing by fixing the bootloader using a USBasb programmer and some bread board jumper cables. I essentially just followed this nerd60 tutorial with some information from this tutorial using this programmer. It ended up being sooo worth it and I'm actually happy that I bricked the drat thing because it's so much easier to mess with keymaps now. I really love the Tada68 and if I ever get another one I will do this immediately.
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Wait your keyboard mounts as a mass storage drive? Man, 2019 is nuts.
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:Wait your keyboard mounts as a mass storage drive? Man, 2019 is nuts. Yeah it would appear as a drive and you copy over a FLASH.bin to change the keymap, but it was super buggy. If you unplugged or even ejected it without hitting esc to exit programming mode it could corrupt the bootloader. I would also have to clean the "drive" every time I mounted it because of the extra crap macOS adds to folders when you open them in finder. The new DFU bootloader just uses QMK Toolbox to flash new firmwares and it's faster and safer. Programmable keyboards are a wonderful rabbit hole. 
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 I got me some DSA milkshake keycaps for my CTRL and now it's my favorite keyboard. Esp with the outemu blue switches on it which are sooo clicky.
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Milkshake is such a neat design. Too bad my dumb fingers don't like DSA 
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Those glyphs are incredibly unique, and I'd love to see them used elsewhere.
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I wish that I'd had the cash for DSA Milkshake when it was available. It'd be fun to put on one of my boards.
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So it was a year or two ago when I last thought about replacing my keyboard, and when I looked then everything was either a $10 plastic piece of poo poo or some $200 niche eXXXtreme gaming thing with artsinally sourced mechanical blah blah What's the go-to nowadays for something in the $60 range, like how the Logitech G11 and G110 were years ago?
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Get the Corsair K70 Lux. It's single color LED (blue or red) that you can dim or turn off, you can get it in brown switches, and it has all the stuff you need and none that you don't. They're on sale for $90.
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kefkafloyd posted:Get the Corsair K70 Lux. It's single color LED (blue or red) that you can dim or turn off, you can get it in brown switches, and it has all the stuff you need and none that you don't. They're on sale for $90. Looked at that, and immediately saw recommended the Corsair K55 for $46 or the Logitech G213 for $44. Thinking about going with one of those instead of paying more for fewer buttons. What would be the benefit of the K70?
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Addamere posted:Looked at that, and immediately saw recommended the Corsair K55 for $46 or the Logitech G213 for $44. Thinking about going with one of those instead of paying more for fewer buttons. What would be the benefit of the K70?
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Llamadeus posted:Those are rubber dome keyboards, the K70 is mechanical. Though there are mechanical keyboards in this price range as well. My current keyboard, a Logitech G110, is from before the hype train for mechanical keyboards left the station. I guess this will be my first dive into mechanical. The media keys I want are present on the K70, and tbh I've only a handful of times ever used the macro keys on the Logitech keyboards so I'm fine with that being omitted. I guess if there's some less fancy version, I'd be cool with that. I'm a long-time Logitech customer: have had the same standalone desktop microphone since 2001, am on my second or third Logitech headset, my second set of desktop speakers, am back to Logitech mice after giving Razer a try in the early 10's, and in general what I'm trying to communicate is Logitech just *felt* right for so long having a Corsair peripheral in the mix is itself a new and scary thought. Another question here is "why mechanical"? I've read the OP, and I get the keystrokes thing. But you know what's finally failing on my G110? It's not the keys. It's the USB connector or firmware or whatever, causing it to sometimes randomly disconnect/reconnect to Windows. Troubleshooting has isolated it to the keyboard, not to the specific machine or USB port. So when there's this noise about how a mechanical keyboard will last longer than bubble dome, I'm kind of like meh whatever? If that makes sense. Addamere fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Jan 21, 2019 |
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"why mechanical" because typing on most rubber domes makes me physically ill
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Addamere posted:My current keyboard, a Logitech G110, is from before the hype train for mechanical keyboards left the station. I guess this will be my first dive into mechanical. The media keys I want are present on the K70, and tbh I've only a handful of times ever used the macro keys on the Logitech keyboards so I'm fine with that being omitted. I guess if there's some less fancy version, I'd be cool with that. I'm a long-time Logitech customer: have had the same standalone desktop microphone since 2001, am on my second or third Logitech headset, my second set of desktop speakers, am back to Logitech mice after giving Razer a try in the early 10's, and in general what I'm trying to communicate is Logitech just *felt* right for so long having a Corsair peripheral in the mix is itself a new and scary thought. Typing on a mechanical has a different tactile sensation and feels a lot nicer in general; typing on membrane keyboards tend to feel mushy, whereas mechanical keyboards can feel smooth (or crunchy if you want) and have that “clack”. I guess a sort of analogy would be if you’ve ever had a pen that has a really nice click or snap when you put the cap back on vs one of those bank pens, except you spend a lot of time typing on your keyboard and hopefully not clicking a pen cap over and over because of ocd. If you prefer Logitech keyboards and want to stick with them, that’s fine, but “having a Corsair peripheral in the mix is itself a new and scary thought.” I’m sorry but this is loving dumb unless you’re dependent on running macros or something with their software. The longevity thing also means that the mechanical keyboard is less likely to fail over the years, where membrane keyboards can start to degrade and have keys start sticking or getting stiff, which was my experience with the otherwise excellent Microsoft 4000 ergonomic keyboard.
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Addamere posted:Another question here is "why mechanical"? I've read the OP, and I get the keystrokes thing. But you know what's finally failing on my G110? It's not the keys. It's the USB connector or firmware or whatever, causing it to sometimes randomly disconnect/reconnect to Windows. Troubleshooting has isolated it to the keyboard, not to the specific machine or USB port. So when there's this noise about how a mechanical keyboard will last longer than bubble dome, I'm kind of like meh whatever? If that makes sense. Eh, I'm inclined to agree. Something is only as reliable and sturdy as as its weakest link. Kinda reminds me of when I bought a $70 logitech mouse rated for a zillion clicks but had to toss it because the cord became damaged over time which made the rest of the mouse build quality irrelevant. If you're buying mechanical for sake of longevity or perceived savings, you're probably not going to get a return on investment unless you keep the thing for a few decades. Or worse, you'll do what some of us do and buy multiple mechanical keyboards because of brain worms. You'll probably never beat the value of buying a $8 Verbatim Slimline Keyboard every 5 years. I think most folks here are hooked on the typing feel though. And if you're spending $100-200 on something that by and large operates the same as a $8 device, build quality will likely be a bit better, yeah. At that price point, there will probably be a few features that will be uniquely useful to yourself, which might make you want to hold onto the keyboard as long as possible. Like the OP also says: you use it literally all the time, why not invest a little? Some of the mechanical keyboards out now include a removable USB cord which removes a failure point. Definitely a fan of that new trend. Anywho, I came back to the thread to talk about my Vortex Race 3. I think it's been a month of ownership now? I love it to bits. I'm still pretty shocked that I ended up preferring the cherry reds over clears. Oddly, I feel like I type quieter and bottom out less on linear keys. I was easily louder on my old Das Keyboard with cherry browns because I kept trying to hit the actuation bump but not bottom out. But yeah, this keyboard is a joy to type on. Smooth keystrokes, the nicely textured caps, whisper silent typing, lovely weighted feel with no frame flex. Totally good purchase.
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VostokProgram posted:"why mechanical" because typing on most rubber domes makes me physically ill im sure you were bedridden every day of your life before the mechanical keyboard fad took off 
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I've come to the conclusion that you actually dont give a poo poo so buy whatever keyboard you want and ignore everyone's advice.buglord posted:Anywho, I came back to the thread to talk about my Vortex Race 3. I think it's been a month of ownership now? I love it to bits. I'm still pretty shocked that I ended up preferring the cherry reds over clears. Oddly, I feel like I type quieter and bottom out less on linear keys. I was easily louder on my old Das Keyboard with cherry browns because I kept trying to hit the actuation bump but not bottom out. But yeah, this keyboard is a joy to type on. Smooth keystrokes, the nicely textured caps, whisper silent typing, lovely weighted feel with no frame flex. Totally good purchase. The Race 3 is a nice looking board that I have come close to getting a couple times. I'm just not sure about the big escape key. I've never actually tried linear switches, just progressively more tactile ones, but I have a big order of switches coming to test. Excited to test them out because the linear crowd seems to be just as vocal as the tactile and clicky crowds about their superiority. CRAYON fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Jan 21, 2019 |
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CRAYON posted:I've come to the conclusion that you actually dont give a poo poo so buy whatever keyboard you want and ignore everyone's advice. This. I've only owned Logitech keyboards since the 90s, the only differences between them are extra keys, looks, and how cheap the case feels. I ditched them for mechanical ones almost a decade ago but I doubt much has changed in rubber dome designs since then.
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CRAYON posted:The Race 3 is a nice looking board that I have come close to getting a couple times. I'm just not sure about the big escape key. I think other posters are right regarding the odd escape key size (and I think delete being longer too). I don't really intend to replace the keycaps soon so that won't be a huge deal for me, but I get where others might be concerned if planning to switch them out. The only thing I dislike about the keycaps are the F and J keys having too subtle of a difference. Maybe I'll be able to feel in a few year's time, but I'm still putting my fingers on the wrong keys every now and then. Liking the linears was a huge surprise for me. 2011 me liked loud, forceful, and stiff, whereas 2019 me prefers just the opposite.
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Addamere posted:My current keyboard, a Logitech G110, is from before the hype train for mechanical keyboards left the station. I guess this will be my first dive into mechanical. The media keys I want are present on the K70, and tbh I've only a handful of times ever used the macro keys on the Logitech keyboards so I'm fine with that being omitted. I guess if there's some less fancy version, I'd be cool with that. I'm a long-time Logitech customer: have had the same standalone desktop microphone since 2001, am on my second or third Logitech headset, my second set of desktop speakers, am back to Logitech mice after giving Razer a try in the early 10's, and in general what I'm trying to communicate is Logitech just *felt* right for so long having a Corsair peripheral in the mix is itself a new and scary thought. Mechanical keyboards are half truth and half gear wank. They feel better on average, though many dome keyboards aren't particularly bad either. The feel is enhanced by them often having a satisfying sound. They generally look nicer and you can spend a bazillion bucks on tweaking and customising them. I'd argue half the fun is actually building stuff yourself, like ordering a plate, switches, a controller, and get cracking. It's a diy electronics hobby with a reasonably low threshold in terms of skill. In my opinion that combination of swank, diy geeking, and the better feel are what made small communities push for small series production of keycaps, special boards and kits, and so on. Those in terms fuel demand and now we have a healthy market for people with too much money on their hands. Oh yes and a big part is also the tendency of people to defend their purchases. Having bought something makes it instantly 5x as cool because otherwise you might regret spending 300 bucks on parts for.... A keyboard.
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CRAYON posted:The Race 3 is a nice looking board that I have come close to getting a couple times. I'm just not sure about the big escape key.
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I think a big part of it too is that mechanical keyboards are basically alone in the premium desktop keyboard space and if you want something without a lot of extraneous styling or buttons it's the only way to go. I just bought WASD CODE 104-key one day because it is "a nice keyboard without a lot of extra buttons or logos" and haven't really regretted it or made a hobby of mechanical keyboards. I don't even remember what switches I have tbqh. (I looked it up - Cherry MX Brown). For a long time a lot of people who didn't like rubber domes went with vintage buckling spring boards that literally littered university and business trashcans for years, but now that those cost more than "I found one in a box"...
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shovelbum posted:stuff unrelated and sorry in advance for the weirdness, but are you in archaeology/CRM? your username and all. e: sorry to hear man. my buddies are going through that same trajectory right now. good money for me while I was working between semesters, but yikes otherwise. buglord fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Jan 21, 2019 |
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buglord posted:unrelated and sorry in advance for the weirdness, but are you in archaeology/CRM? your username and all. oh yeah I used to be, then like everyone else I bailed when it was "get a master's that because of the nature of the field could take infinity years and never pay for itself" or "bail". all the exposure to oilfield workers who made 3x my wage to hold the STOP/SLOW sign kinda sealed the deal
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Anyone looking to dump a 40/60% board? I'm interested most in the Vortex CORE or the Planck, but those also seem to be the only real 40% boards out there e: ColHannibal posted:I got a HHKB2 pro in black/black Sorry, should have specified, looking for more for mechanical and ~$100, the HHKB seems a bit out of my price range even used. HarmB fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Jan 22, 2019 |
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Sigourney Cheevos posted:Anyone looking to dump a 40/60% board? I'm interested most in the Vortex CORE or the Planck, but those also seem to be the only real 40% boards out there I got a HHKB2 pro in black/black
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Lord Stimperor posted:Mechanical keyboards are half truth and half gear wank. yeah this is the feeling I get from reading peoples' posts about it, like I'm not looking for a hobby I'm looking for a keyboard that'll last 5-10 years or ideally more and which doesn't have the gummy feeling of $10 cheap pieces of poo poo. Like, the immediate response from the mechanical keyboard crowd is "every non-mechanical will be like that", and they are lying because neither my G11 nor my G110 are/were like that. There's a distinct difference between the lovely gummy feeling of the super-cheap ones and the mid-range and higher ones. As it happens it's looking like a mechanical keyboard without too much frills costs about the same as a membrane one nowadays, so I might take the dive on that recommended Corsair K70 Lux. Not because it's mechanical, but because apparently the mid-range membrane keyboard has become an extinct animal. Addamere fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Jan 22, 2019 |
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 Just buy a new Logitech K480. It sounds like it'll be adequate to your purpose. The Unlife Aquatic fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Jan 22, 2019 |
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Sigourney Cheevos posted:Anyone looking to dump a 40/60% board? I'm interested most in the Vortex CORE or the Planck, but those also seem to be the only real 40% boards out there I have one of the massdrop 75 key orthos (Idobo) with QMK on it and gateron browns that I don't think I'm going to end up using. https://www.massdrop.com/buy/75keys-aluminum-mechanical-keyboard-kit
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Burno posted:I have one of the massdrop 75 key orthos (Idobo) with QMK on it and gateron browns that I don't think I'm going to end up using. This seems right up my alley. Sent you a PM
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Addamere posted:I'm not looking for a hobby I'm looking for a keyboard that'll last 5-10 years or ideally more and which doesn't have the gummy feeling of $10 cheap pieces of poo poo. I like this Kensington slim keyboard. Full size but a bit smaller footprint than most full-size keyboards. It has dedicated volume control keys, but the multimedia controls are on the Fn layer of some of the F-keys, which isn't quite the same as the Corsair you're looking at.
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Sigourney Cheevos posted:Anyone looking to dump a 40/60% board? I'm interested most in the Vortex CORE or the Planck, but those also seem to be the only real 40% boards out there I can toss you one of my kits for about $80 shipped. Only thing you'll need is caps and switches, kit will have a plate, PCB, mounting hardware, case and diodes. 
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If you don't care about mechanical, then the Logitech G213 at that sale price is decent enough. At least you don't have to deal with Corsair's poo poo software. If you still want to go mechanical, then watch out for CoolerMaster MasterKeys on sale on whatever size / LED variant you want to go with.
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Constellation I posted:If you don't care about mechanical, then the Logitech G213 at that sale price is decent enough. At least you don't have to deal with Corsair's poo poo software. Can you expand on Corsair's "poo poo software"? This is part of why I'm so tempted to stick with Logitech: you can just plug-and-play without issue, and their expanded software is great if you want to use it.
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The K70lux doesn't require any software as it doesn't have RGB or macro keys and ergo doesn't need programmability. You only need the software with the RGB keyboards, and even then it'll still work without it.
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Corsair has not had poo poo software in years, when they first launched their egg boards it was clunky and unintuitive as hell but now it’s fine.
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