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Symbolic Butt posted:oh I think I stumbled on this one startup, I seriously considered doing it despite people on the yospos slack saying I shouldn't i doubt it, unless you too are in japan in fact there's also some self driving ("mobility") business here who also is expecting people do a month long test assignment
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I don't remember where it was, but yeah I think I if it were japan I'd remember it but it was exactly that: an AI startup who wanted me to spend 1-3 months implementing some scientific paper to get a chance to work for them
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Me, to my peers: "Oh yeah, I've been hearing from (X), (Y), (Z) about some really interesting roles!" Me, to my self: "HR auto-responders don't count you goddamn fraud."  E: Although, an auto-reject I got on Monday was "whistled-back" (as the kids say these days) yesterday when it was discovered that the question "Do you have a degree in Computer Science?" is not actually the same as "Do you have a Bachelors?". "Hashtag Social Science Degree Lyfe" (as the kids say these days). It also means that apparently an actual human bean looked at it? Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Jan 16, 2019 |
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Captain Foo posted:anyway I have an interview tomorrow Best of luck to you. The entire interview process for my current workplace was: thirty minutes behavioral call; one hour onsite, thirty minutes doing a "what does this code do and where are its errors", thirty minutes behavioral; and thirty minutes discussing the offer with my supervisor and supervisor's supervisor. They have since replaced the code review with doing a whiteboard.
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Symbolic Butt posted:I don't remember where it was, but yeah I think I if it were japan I'd remember it their explanation was that "uh this is basically what you will be doing all day so we want to see if you are up to it", which is a valid excuse actually and i see where they are coming from, but the reality is that the position has to be something really drat special for me to even take the opportunity cost of trying to do this work. i mean what if i do it and then they say nah
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Here's my story about an ai startup. Imagine my surprise when I checked the company's project page, was redirected to a personal website, and I checked the about me section to discover it was the homepage of the dude that made the infamous my little pony resume that was in the 3rd person.
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Welp, after a month of funemployment I'm finally starting to look for a job down here in Mexico. I knew that having Amazon on my resume would open doors, but god drat I didn't expect that every position I applied for would get me to a talking interview. However I'm only looking for remote positions since I live in a small city with no tech jobs, and most of these places are in Guadalajara aka Mexican silicon valley. Still though I need the practice and I'm sure some company will bite eventually, just gotta keep looking. ^^^ LMAO Janitor Prime fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Jan 16, 2019 |
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elite_garbage_man posted:Here's my story about an ai startup. lmao
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elite_garbage_man posted:Here's my story about an ai startup. oh dear lord lomarf
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did my third onsite in two weeks yesterday, got two verbal offers and probably a third, and I’m pretty sure I don’t want any of them. also got ghosted by Apple again. drat
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xpost the doomsday economics thread in cspamDumb Lowtax posted:Check this whole thread... shaking my head so much here
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Jimbola posted:how long would you say is reasonable to spend on a take home test?
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I'm pretty okay with non-trivial takehomes, like that chat one would be fine if it was JUST implement the api. a takehome should be like 1-2 hours of work (which if you want the job you extend to 4 or more hours to make actually good) but yeah that's too much
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its a scorching hot take everytime that companies are trying to get free work out you just lmao hanlon's razor and all that
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Symbolic Butt posted:I don't remember where it was, but yeah I think I if it were japan I'd remember it Implement it, then license it out to them
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me: "I want jobs <here>" recruiters, of the cold calling type: "WE HAVE JOBS ANYWHERE BUT THAT LOCATION" 
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Mao Zedong Thot posted:its a scorching hot take everytime that companies are trying to get free work out you just lmao yeah to be honest i think it was more them being stupid than trying to get free work. they already have the product right? why would they want me to re-implement it from scratch? in any case i told them no and the guy was like 'let's talk about it! i don't want this to be an obstacle!'. i think it's a pretty big red flag anyway so i'm just going to move on.
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Penisface posted:during the current search i had two nice 1-2h coding exercises. and some AI startup wanted me to spend a month on re-implementing a science article which i politely told them is too much time, sorry as much as people are pointing out the possibility of some of these things being free work -- this one literally is free work; this is doing an assignment an employee would do that will result in them getting the dual benefit of screening you while maybe getting free work out of you either way; a win-win for them and just screwing over applicants
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bob dobbs is dead posted:xpost the doomsday economics thread in cspam This got brought up in the schad thread over in PYF, but this sort of stuff is par for course for universities. What happens is they're required, if they take any sort of public (tax) money, to post the opening publicly, even if they already have someone who will be filling it. If someone applies to it who meets all the qualifications, chances are they'll repeat the same process, make an "application", and fill it "internally". So tl;dr: they're internal postings that are required to be posted publicly in this case. e: a few years ago when the University of Wisconsin-Madison football coach left for another school, they posted the open coaching position publicly, even though, for all intents and purposes, it was going to be an internal search. Universities have weird requirements for this so don't read too much into that specific incident with Notre Dame. iospace fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Jan 16, 2019 |
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gave notice to my manager, who was not sure whether it was policy to be walked out, so I’ve kinda just been sitting here for a couple of hours waiting to see what happens
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Is Vettery any good? They keep spamming me to join
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DuckConference posted:gave notice to my manager, who was not sure whether it was policy to be walked out, so I’ve kinda just been sitting here for a couple of hours waiting to see what happens Congrats
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JawnV6 posted:a yosposter literally dosed me post-lunch with this stuff lmao oops sorry jawn, I multiplex two espresso shots into one virtual single-shot americano
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DuckConference posted:gave notice to my manager, who was not sure whether it was policy to be walked out, so I’ve kinda just been sitting here for a couple of hours waiting to see what happens lmao
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Dijkstracula posted:lmao oops sorry jawn, I multiplex two espresso shots into one virtual single-shot americano bean aggregation protocol negotiation mismatch
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Cold on a Cob posted:Is Vettery any good? They keep spamming me to join the good part is that the recruiter contacts you so you don't waste a bunch of time applying to black holes. the bad part is that you're just waiting for recruiters and who knows why might not be getting any interest oh and they actively encourage everyone to talk in short order which could be good or bad depending on what pace you want to set
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Cold on a Cob posted:Is Vettery any good? They keep spamming me to join I'm going through the process right now so I can describe my experience: For those that don't know, Vettery's catch is that it sort of turns the job search on its head. As a job seeker, you can fill out a brief profile about yourself, the kind of work you're looking for, experience level, full-time/part-time/contract etc, can choose a bunch of pre-selected industries or areas that you're interested in, and the size of company. You also upload a picture and your resume. I kind of wish I wasn't forced to upload a picture.  Vettery makes money on the hiring side, and companies pay something like 10% of the hired person's salary as a fee to Vettery. If I get hired through Vettery, I get $300, and if I refer someone that gets hired, I get $500. Once your profile gets approved, you'll be scheduled to be listed to companies that match the criteria you entered in your profile. Then you wait. (Hopefully) A company contacts you with an offer for an first interview! You have three days to respond. If you consistently fail to respond (even as a "pass"), they claim you could be removed from the system. So far, three companies have reached out to me. The first one was with a company that does Podcasting hosting, and their revenue model was actually inserting ads into the podcasts, and after learning that I passed on them. The second company was Netflix (!). I didn't bother with an interview, and clicked "PASS". Passing on an interview offer allows you to write some feedback about why you passed. In this case, the feedback I sent (this just goes back to Vettery) was that they were asking if I was interested in relocation, despite my profile saying I wasn't interested, and they also were much larger of a company than I selected in my profile. The third company is still in progress. I had a first interview with an HR representative, and I had a bunch of questions for their hiring manager that she couldn't answer, but promised to get back to me on, and I got that info back today (again, all through the Vettery messaging system), so the ball is back in my court. I've found a couple shortcomings in their job candidate profile, mainly around being open to remote work (there is an option, but it's not in the Locations area), and I also sent them some feedback saying they need a "Relocation: Y/N" checkbox somewhere as well, which is something I feel like most job sites ignore completely. In all, it's been a fairly positive experience, but you do get some push from the rep at Vettery inquiring about how things are going with each individual company, perhaps they also make a commission if you get hired. manero fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Jan 17, 2019 |
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Penisface posted:i doubt it, unless you too are in japan hey, come join the japan goon line chat
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Stringent posted:hey, come join the japan goon line chat how do i do that? is there a nice non-doxxy thing i can search for on line or i will just create a throwaway email as i dont have PMs lancemantis posted:as much as people are pointing out the possibility of some of these things being free work -- this one literally is free work; this is doing an assignment an employee would do that will result in them getting the dual benefit of screening you while maybe getting free work out of you either way; a win-win for them and just screwing over applicants to their defense it was one of those open challenges where the original authors of the paper had set up a competition to beat their results and i at least got the impression that the company was already familiar with the article in question so at worst i would be doing something the already did.
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Penisface posted:how do i do that? is there a nice non-doxxy thing i can search for on line or i will just create a throwaway email as i dont have PMs throwaway email
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Stringent posted:throwaway email benisfacee@gmail.com
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Thanks manero and munkeymon, i think i'll give them a shot
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SardonicTyrant posted:This is not a take home, this is full-time work. They're milking you. there’s like nine posters in coc who would call you entitled and lazy for not sucking up this poo poo
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Pollyanna posted:there’s like nine posters in coc who would call you entitled and lazy for not sucking up this shot coc sucks
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MononcQc posted:i should go argue in there for fun some times be sure to keep us informed
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DuckConference posted:gave notice to my manager, who was not sure whether it was policy to be walked out, so I’ve kinda just been sitting here for a couple of hours waiting to see what happens update: today is my last day (maybe probably?)
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DuckConference posted:update: today is my last day (maybe probably?) lucky ducky
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Pollyanna posted:there’s like nine posters in coc who would call you entitled and lazy for not sucking up this poo poo
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