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The pound will be worthless in two months so who cares.
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I do, I've been paid in dollars for about the last 10 years.
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Jan 17, 2019 12:39
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Jan 17, 2019 12:41
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If I can't have England then no one shall!
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Jan 17, 2019 12:45
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Corbyn is catching poo poo for not agreeing to talk, but what's the point if May will not budge on anything? Sitting in a room while she says no to every idea is not going to be productive. You'd have to go some distance to be a worse pm than Cameron but she has managed it.
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Jan 17, 2019 12:50
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alphabettitouretti posted:Corbyn is catching poo poo for not agreeing to talk He isn't catching any serious poo poo yet, it's only been 5 minutes since he said it.
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Jan 17, 2019 12:52
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Avirosb posted:If I can't have England then no one shall! I love Brexit now
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alphabettitouretti posted:Corbyn is catching poo poo for not agreeing to talk, but what's the point if May will not budge on anything? Sitting in a room while she says no to every idea is not going to be productive. No point whatsoever. Theresa May is incapable of negotiation. She doesn't seem to have a theory of mind, and is fundamentally incapable of changing her own
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Jan 17, 2019 12:56
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Barry Foster posted:No point whatsoever. Theresa May is incapable of negotiation. She doesn't seem to have a theory of mind, and is fundamentally incapable of changing her own it owns that the press are still giving her a free pass while constantly having a go at corbyn
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Jan 17, 2019 13:07
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Jose posted:it owns that the press are still giving her a free pass while constantly having a go at corbyn The investment interests behind British papers surely wouldn't want no deal. Surely.
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Jan 17, 2019 13:20
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The investment interests behind British papers surely wouldn't want no deal. Surely. It's more that "let's gently caress up rupert murdoch" is part of the labour manifesto, and something actual labour members in CLPs all agree is cool, and good, and very exciting
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Jan 17, 2019 13:29
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Rupert Murdoch is trash and journalists should be happy he's one of the first to be hosed up by lefties hth.
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Jan 17, 2019 13:34
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Dance Officer posted:The pound will be worthless in two months so who cares.  
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Jan 17, 2019 13:34
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An insane mind posted:Rupert Murdoch is trash and journalists should be happy he's one of the first to be hosed up by lefties hth. It'd gently caress our whole press not just him. And itd be good because they're absolute trash all owned by far right billionaires
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Jan 17, 2019 13:36
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An insane mind posted:Rupert Murdoch is trash and journalists should be happy he's one of the first to be hosed up by lefties hth. "The press should be held accountable for lying in an attempt to get people murdered" would do insanely well as a single issue party tbh, the UK's trust in its media is the lowest in Europe. We hate the press more than Italians, or Greeks, or Hungarians. Consider this. We really loving loathe our press. The press consider this dangerous, because they feel slighted that we don't respect their latest opinion piece on why trans people are antisemitic. It's a complete coincidence that they're all old, white, and booj. When I was 20, doing lots of cocaine and trying to play music for a living, I spoke to a guy in Calais about the state of the press in our countries and an incoming pension age increase. He couldn't understand how this was being allowed to pass, and was talking about Sarkozy attempting the same and being met with a shitload of old people willing to burn his house down. He asked me what the papers were saying about this, and all I had to say was that our best selling newspaper was popular because of the full page spreads of naked women with big boobs explaining why their fave voltaire quote was actually about getting rid of migrants this conversation stuck with me and I remember it every time I see the guillotines being wheeled around Paris, thirsty for Macron's blood
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Jan 17, 2019 13:39
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this article is extremely good https://twitter.com/maxstrasser/status/1085860613967015937
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Jan 17, 2019 13:44
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the times is a right wing piece of poo poo but somehow i still prefer it to the guardian tho' seeing how the primary purpose of a newspaper is to get you ineffectually salty maybe this makes perfect sense still loving this gif
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Jan 17, 2019 13:47
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Jan 17, 2019 13:47
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Wait, is Jose right or just exaggerating? Is there no independent media in Britain? I mean...I know billionaires like to own newspapers for prestige and stuff, but surely there's some form of independent press? How can you hold people accountable without...oh...oh no. Excuse me while I go drink.
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An insane mind posted:Wait, is Jose right or just exaggerating? Is there no independent media in Britain? I mean...I know billionaires like to own newspapers for prestige and stuff, but surely there's some form of independent press? the state-run press is the BBC, which is ... not great, given the state of The State. then I'm pretty sure everything else is privatized. I've heard The Canary is trying to be some kind of left-independent thing, but they're pretty small
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Jan 17, 2019 13:59
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I mean the moment we start trying to break up press monopolies is probably when conservatives launch an actual coupe.
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Surprise Giraffe posted:I mean the moment we start trying to break up press monopolies is probably when conservatives launch an actual coupe. I'm just assuming you mean they'll try to flee the country in the cars the top gear guys tried to cross the channel in.
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Jan 17, 2019 14:07
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An insane mind posted:Wait, is Jose right or just exaggerating? Is there no independent media in Britain? I mean...I know billionaires like to own newspapers for prestige and stuff, but surely there's some form of independent press? If you're somehow unaware of British libel laws look 'em up, it's amazing.
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Jan 17, 2019 14:11
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Surprise Giraffe posted:I mean the moment we start trying to break up press monopolies is probably when conservatives launch an actual coupe. Elon Musk doesn't own any UK papers
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Jan 17, 2019 14:12
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people only want another referendum because they're aware of the massive deficiency of democratic legitimacy cancelling brexit will cause and are trying to split the difference. it has and will fail - it's totally, totally illegitimate. you wanna loving cancel a50 cancel it. a referendum is compromising with people who have absolutely no desire to compromise or even consider said compromise as anything but the massive insult it is. a referendum makes this problem worse. loving nut up parliament, that's the only way out.
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Surprise Giraffe posted:I mean the moment we start trying to break up press monopolies is probably when conservatives launch an actual coupe. like the Spanish did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41ayCVgLjIU
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Jan 17, 2019 14:18
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let's get it down to 0%
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An insane mind posted:Wait, is Jose right or just exaggerating? Is there no independent media in Britain? I mean...I know billionaires like to own newspapers for prestige and stuff, but surely there's some form of independent press? the guardian is independent (owned by a trust) but british lefties like to pretend that it isn't so they can call any bad news they report about someone they like a fiendish deception by the blairites
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Jan 17, 2019 14:44
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Please do not disparage our fine press, it's the best in the world. 
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Tbh the problem is less the billionaires (who are bad and should be removed) and more the increasing overlap between politicians, journalists and big business into a single political class alongside entry to this class becoming increasingly hereditary My favourite example is Tony Benn, who gave up his hereditary lordship and yet spawned a political dynasty (son Hilary, granddaughter something or another, handed and expecting a safe seat respectively)
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Fallen Hamprince posted:the guardian is independent (owned by a trust) but british lefties like to pretend that it isn't so they can call any bad news they report about someone they like a fiendish deception by the blairites the guardian is not owned by a trust and hasn't been for a decade nobody claims things are fiendish deception, it's simply a fact that blairites are idiots and the guardian is full of them
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Fallen Hamprince posted:the guardian is independent (owned by a trust) but british lefties like to pretend that it isn't so they can call any bad news they report about someone they like a fiendish deception by the blairites Do you know what trusts are my dude?
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Do you know what trusts are my dude? BUT THEY'RE CALLED SCOTT TRUST LTD I DONT UNDERSTAND
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Spangly A posted:the guardian is not owned by a trust and hasn't been for a decade "Guardian Media Group plc (GMG) is a British mass media company owning various media operations including The Guardian and The Observer. The group is wholly owned by Scott Trust Limited, which exists to secure the financial and editorial independence of The Guardian in perpetuity." (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Fallen Hamprince posted:"Guardian Media Group plc (GMG) is a British mass media company owning various media operations including The Guardian and The Observer. The group is wholly owned by Scott Trust Limited, which exists to secure the financial and editorial independence of The Guardian in perpetuity." I'm crying Spangly A posted:BUT THEY'RE CALLED SCOTT TRUST LTD I DONT UNDERSTAND you loving maniac I can't believe you don't even click your google searches when trolling
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it's a limited company, which means all of its revenue is strictly limited to supporting tory evil
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Fallen Hamprince posted:it's a limited company, which means all of its revenue is strictly limited to supporting tory evil quote:The Scott Trust is a limited partner in GMG Ventures LP, founded in 2017, whose Chairman & Co-Founder is David Skipwith Pemsel as of December 2018. [3] According to the GMG 2018 annual report, "this £42m venture capital fund is designed to contribute financial returns and to support GMG’s strategy by investing in early stage businesses focused on developing the next generation of media technology".[4] For-profit ventures aren't "independent" in any meaningful sense, nor is an "independent" media somehow free of class bias. The Scott Trust always has a member of the Scott family on its board, even.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:it's a limited company, which means all of its revenue is strictly limited to supporting tory evil I'm glad you clicked the wikipedia article this time, can you admit that a trust and a ltd company are not the same thing or do you need time to google what a company is?
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