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Ciaphas posted:thanks for the info, then what are you talking about! this is the perfect setup for the big ~*goonproject: Las Vegas heist*~
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I've got a few coworkers that worked on gambling game apps and they say that it's really not that different of work from their current day to day making fart apps.
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PokeJoe posted:I've got a few coworkers that worked on gambling game apps and they say that it's really not that different of work from their current day to day making fart apps. i'm sure the day to day is the same, for me it's mostly the 'yep, still in vegas' and partly the ickiness of working for a gaming company. can't turn my nose up though and i'm already stained as hell on the latter anyway
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Cold on a Cob posted:i would suppose the incentives for an external recruiter are probably like a realtor as with a realtor, they give zero fucks about the buyer or the seller, they just want to get a deal done they will lie to the candidate about the salary band, since they expect it to go up post-interview. they will lie to the employer about salary demands, since they know it will be disqualifying to be too honest too soon. etc etc their goal is to get a deal done and a certain amount of deception and misdirection increase the odds considerably
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What if the recruiter forgets about scheduling my interview over the long weekend and my hope for a  goes up in smoke? Also why doesn’t anyone in Wisconsin do MLK day?
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Schadenboner posted:Also why doesn’t anyone in Wisconsin do MLK day? is this really a question you need to be told an answer to i mean, this fuckhead used to be governor: 
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Arcsech posted:is this really a question you need to be told an answer to Yeah, but Doyle never did anything before 2010 on it either?
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I was dying for all of November trying to get a loving peep back from any application I sent in, then I panic-took a job at Literally Metro-Milwaukee’s Worst MSP to keep the lights on, now all of a sudden (what passes for) good companies are calling like crazy.
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Schadenboner posted:I was dying for all of November trying to get a loving peep back from any application I sent in, then I panic-took a job at Literally Metro-Milwaukee’s Worst MSP to keep the lights on, now all of a sudden (what passes for) good companies are calling like crazy. Nobody does hr stuff in december or early january
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Schadenboner posted:I was dying for all of November trying to get a loving peep back from any application I sent in, then I panic-took a job at Literally Metro-Milwaukee’s Worst MSP to keep the lights on, now all of a sudden (what passes for) good companies are calling like crazy. That is because it's January, the magical time of year where money materializes before the very eyes of department heads, half of which will be shoveled into the Azure/AWS fire at a pace that makes it run out 1 month before the next magical money granting time.
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bob dobbs is dead posted:Nobody does hr stuff in december or early january It’s just unfortunate my landlord doesn’t hold a similar philosophy.
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Schadenboner posted:Also why doesn’t anyone in Wisconsin do MLK day? I had off 
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Ciaphas posted:i'm sure the day to day is the same, for me it's mostly the 'yep, still in vegas' and partly the ickiness of working for a gaming company. can't turn my nose up though and i'm already stained as hell on the latter anyway at least the gaming company is less likely to give a poo poo about weed use than the feds? hopefully??
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:at least the gaming company is less likely to give a poo poo about weed use than the feds? hopefully?? yeah the gaming companies don't seem to especially care long as the job's getting done--at least the ones I've spoken to
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that should help at least. you won't have the anxiety of being drug tested. also they're probably not going to be as ultra-restrictive as far as having to go outside the building to use the internet or something, so the work environment should be better too. you can even still keep looking for something better, but you'll be doing so from a place of less stress and anxiety. it's still progress and we're all rooting for you. 
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Cold on a Cob posted:i would suppose the incentives for an external recruiter are probably like a realtor Doesn't cost anything to switch recruiters, and they're all in a very long line of anybodies. If they can't get you a good deal or give a good word directly to a hiring manager, then just ditch them since they add no value to your application.
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mekkanare posted:I had off Is it a Wisconsin company?
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Schadenboner posted:Is it a Wisconsin company? Eh not a company per se... I'm with the state itself 
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mekkanare posted:Eh not a company per se... I'm with the state itself Yeah: governments/schools and banks, and companies where the HQ or whatever is out east (maybe west coast as well, dunno) seem to get off for MLK.
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Oh poo poo, I need to contact the DWD and make sure my new job doesn’t go on that fuckstain Walker’s record.
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would apple actually care / look at it if I made a side project macOS app in swift? there's a project I want to do already and macOS is a good as any platform for it I'm not trying to put all my eggs in one basket but apple will be bigly expanding in my city and if im gonna bias my interview prep a bit towards anyones stack it should probably be theirs. my current work is all c#, webapi, react, and typescript (mostly frontend) so I doubt any of that helps. or is my time better spent just practicing puzzles since I suck big rear end at those?
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Flat Daddy posted:would apple actually care / look at it if I made a side project macOS app in swift?
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No bigco gives a poo poo about anything beyond what is in their evaluation rubric aka dumb coding puzzle circuses.
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Flat Daddy posted:would apple actually care / look at it if I made a side project macOS app in swift? there's a project I want to do already and macOS is a good as any platform for it apple uses all kinds of poo poo internally, so... probably depends on where in the company you want to land. if you want to work on macos apps like pages or garageband or w/e then maybe, if you want to do frontend web poo poo or APIs or whatever then a macos app probably isn't going to be any more useful than any other side project, which is already highly variable
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  thread has helped me find a new job. thenks goons
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Ragtime All The Time posted:
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Arcsech posted:apple uses all kinds of poo poo internally, so... probably depends on where in the company you want to land. if you want to work on macos apps like pages or garageband or w/e then maybe, if you want to do frontend web poo poo or APIs or whatever then a macos app probably isn't going to be any more useful than any other side project, which is already highly variable this is correct and yeah how helpful it will be is entirely dependent on what team/area you are interviewing with
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Flat Daddy posted:would apple actually care / look at it if I made a side project macOS app in swift? there's a project I want to do already and macOS is a good as any platform for it i have never owned an apple device besides an old rear end iPod and never coded for any of their platforms prior to my employment here.
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what about in the case that you want to pivot to swift? i imagine side projects in it are going to be essential if your day job is 100% java
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carry on then posted:what about in the case that you want to pivot to swift? i imagine side projects in it are going to be essential if your day job is 100% java maybe. one team did pass on me due to lack of swift experience.
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jit bull transpile posted:i have never owned an apple device besides an old rear end iPod and never coded for any of their platforms prior to my employment here. truly, the race is not always to the swift
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just gonna apologize for that in advance
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after short pleasantries and other assorted chit-chat "Well, it sounds like you've got some interesting projects, what does the stack look like?" "Ah, It's 99% C#" "Okay, well I have no experience with that, so thanks for reaching out to me and best of luck." "Ah, no no no, we're looking for solid engineers no matter the language. We're big on hiring for talent and attitude, we can train C# and .Net" "Really? Most of my recent experience is Python" "Well you can do the coding assignment in C# or Java, it's not overly complex you could probably give it a go in C# if you have decent object-oriented skills. We're looking more for how your code is for another team member to look at, where we can teach, things like that." "Alright it could be a good excuse to try out .Net"submits assignment "Sorry, we won't be going ahead. We liked your class modelling and you had good test coverage, overall code layout was also good - but you could have used LINQ for some things, should have used DI, and core 2.1 has lifecyle management you could used (link to obscure unofficial blog post), we also wanted to see a three layer architecture for this tiny console app"I'm probably not going to stop doing takehomes but I sure am going to treat "we hire for talent and attitude not language skills" as a straight up lie.
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Kilometres Davis posted:
lol you probably already know but all of this is shallow as poo poo. none of this tells anything about your general coding skills and can be learned in 1 week.
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we hire for talent... and by talent we mean how closely your coding style matches our house style.
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i started the new job today and it owns owns owns over my old one already (time to let the mundane parts settle in)
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I used to work at a Scala shop that was unconventional in the sense that nobody thought very highly of the actor model, which I guess is what the rest of the Scala community is all about these days and then would get super salty at candidates who submitted take-home tests using Akka instead of threads and locks and atomics as god intended and would not listen to me begging them to either be more open-minded or change the take-home wording 
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Kilometres Davis posted:after short pleasantries and other assorted chit-chat consider this a bullet dodged i had one process where i submitted a test assignment that looked like this: simple Golang program that does some input parsing, pasted into a Gist, the url of the Gist sent over HTTP to their bespoke trial assignment thing where you also had to figure out the HTTP TOTP (RFC 6238) generation so the POST would be received. it was interesting and not very difficult, i spent around 2h but their response was "nah not interested" without any other feedback.
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Flat Daddy posted:apple will be bigly expanding in my city austin tho?
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