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Rastor posted:Storing the footage, editing the footage, special effects... You can store it on standard hard drives and already edit it in Premiere Pro. As far as color grading goes, you can grade it just fine on non 8K color grading monitors. We grade 4K stuff all the time on a 1080 FSI monitor. The barrier to making 8K isn't as a big of a deal as past resolutions (mainly from SD to HD). The infrastructure to support it is, by and large, the same. Now, when you talk about 8K theaters and home delivery systems that's a valid, but different discussion. You said the "tech to create 8K content does not exist" and that's flat out objectively wrong. It exists and is actually being used, though still in a young state. edit: And I don't think I'd think of theaters as the gold standard for display tech. It's pretty clear companies are investing in advancing the home tech at an affordable rate and streaming will start catching up even faster than it is now. Traditional cable companies are the aircraft carriers struggling to turn but streaming is catching up pretty quick. edit 2: edited to remove a bit of the snark. BonoMan fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Jan 21, 2019 |
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Hell my cable provider looks like absolute poo poo compared to a 1080p rip.
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GreenNight posted:Hell my cable provider looks like absolute poo poo compared to a 1080p rip. They can really be channel dependent. I have some that look great, but SYFY's HD channel looks like someone took a 480p YouTube rip and upscaled it. It's insanely garbage.
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I DVR like 40 things and torrent a handful of them just because they look like rear end via my cable provider. I don't care since I'm paying for cable anyways. ABC probably looks the best. CBS does not. Syfy, like you, is poo poo.
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Jan 21, 2019 02:06
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Only kinda vaguely related, but I had to laugh at an episode of The Goldbergs the other day which did a typical scene showing them watching something on the TV and it was blatant from the compression artifacts that they had to source the clip from YouTube or similar.
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GreenNight posted:Syfy, like you, is poo poo. Jesus come on man I'm trying here.
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Rastor posted:The other factor is: what does 8K add? 4K for TVs was an easy "sell" since it costs nothing for the manufacturers to implement, not because of actual consumer demand for the upgrade. 8K is going to follow the same route. As for FALD/not-fake HDR/whatever other cool poo poo, the non-videophiles aren't gonna care until they are baseline features, but yet at the same time the manufacturers are not making it happen since the margins are already non-existent on most TVs.
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American McGay posted:And cable providers still can't deliver 4K content. Comcast loves their compressed as hell 720p
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Rastor posted:Storing the footage, editing the footage, special effects... I’m a video editor. While I don’t work on feature films, I do a lot of commercials. We’ve only ever shipped out one 4K commercial. Most of the time we shoot in 4K to do blowups and master in 1080p. Editing with 4K footage has finally gotten to the point where you can work with multiple streams of 4K and not really have problems. gently caress if I ever have to deal with 8K any time soon.
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I mean, yes sure 8K production is possible right now start to finish, but it's also exponentially resource intensive. You'll get less than a half hour of 8K footage per $2000 minimag. It's literally not worth it to produce 8K content that isn't just live broadcast.
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Iirc Comcast is moving to h265 and has 4k in some markets.
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Palladium posted:4K for TVs was an easy "sell" since it costs nothing for the manufacturers to implement, not because of actual consumer demand for the upgrade. 8K is going to follow the same route. Yeah this is probably the core truth, the TV manufacturers are going to be able to implement 8K for a few bucks more and they will decide it is worth it for the marketing value. And they won't care whether there is any 8K content for it and the average consumer won't care either, they will just say "welp more Ks must be better" and then hook up their garbage cable TV signal to it and watch it in the wrong aspect ratio with motion smoothing turned on.
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I remember 80s moms would parrot on about watching TV too long/too close or whatever would give you 'square eyes'. We need to convince them that motion smoothing does the same thing.
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Rastor posted:Yeah this is probably the core truth, the TV manufacturers are going to be able to implement 8K for a few bucks more and they will decide it is worth it for the marketing value. And they won't care whether there is any 8K content for it and the average consumer won't care either, they will just say "welp more Ks must be better" and then hook up their garbage cable TV signal to it and watch it in the wrong aspect ratio with motion smoothing turned on. It will be a major bummer if the current crop of meaningful technology advanced (OLED, HDR, color improvements, contrast improvements, etc.) gets interrupted so that everyone can focus on a meaningless 8K improvement for a few years.
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Yeah, that's the real issue. We run the risk of real image quality improvements being derailed in favor of pixel density. OLED's drive into mainstream may be pushed out by cheaper 8k LCD panels because more is better. One of the reasons why plasma died as sudden death as it did was it wasn't economically (or power consumption) feasible to push into 4k. No one was going to buy a new 1080p set for a premium price, so demand dried up.
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Jan 21, 2019 18:53
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TCL 55R617 $499 shipped
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Hi Brad.
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Thank you for your service David.
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Ah yes the well known 'buydig.com' I'm sure their return process for a shattered TV will be quick and painless.
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Man I wish Vudu would do 4K on the PS4 Pro. They seem to be the only provider with a good 4K selection AND the ability to rent instead of buy.
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Something Offal posted:Ah yes the well known 'buydig.com' I'm sure their return process for a shattered TV will be quick and painless. BuyDig is pretty well known and has been around forever. Typically they have the cheapest OLED prices with call-in sales that are several hundred dollars cheaper than anywhere else. I've never heard of anyone having issues with returns, although obviously returning to a local store would be easier for most people.
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Something Offal posted:Ah yes the well known 'buydig.com' I'm sure their return process for a shattered TV will be quick and painless. I coincidentally recently bought (and returned) a tv from BeachCamera (same company as buydig) through Greentoe, and can vouch (at least for Sony) that they're an authorized retailer. I was also able to return pretty easily, and they paid for return shipping and pickup at my house so this isn't necessarily a fraudulent place to buy if anyone is interested. (I can't speak to the Google Express process, nor how trustworthy Brad is).
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Mhm I looked into it and I guess if I were looking at that TV today I'd take the deal. Looks like Google Express has additional return protections too. What is a call-in sale? Thanks Brad and David!
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Something Offal posted:What is a call-in sale? You have to call in and order from a phone rep. Presumably this is to avoid running afoul of agreements on lowest advertised prices, etc. You'll see a post on SlickDeals like, "Call-in: LG 4K OLED TV: OLED65B8PUA $1799, 55" OLED55B8PUA $1199 (Until 4PM EST) + Free S&H." You call in, tell them you saw they're doing a special that day for that price and they ship it to you. As far as I can tell, this has been the cheapest way to get an LG OLED most of the time.
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8K and above will probably be more relevant to the VR space to continually reduce the screen door effect.
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Hey guys, I think this would be the place to post about how my family is looking to sell our Pioneer Elite PRO-730HD Rear Projection CRT TV that must now be over 18 years old. I'm not sure where one would go about to sell it, I have no idea about the price, and all I know is that there are apparently some really passionate people who value the superior display of rear projection if modified right. Looking for one of those services that fine tune them to get done before selling it as well.
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Do not spend money on it. Post it on avsforum and see if anyone has interest.
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Well the saddest thing happened today. Turned on my OLED65C7P today and noticed there was a line across the top and down the left side. Closer inspection showed that the screen was cracked in the very top left corner. We have a book shelf next to the TV and a kitty that likes to chew nearby objects when she's laying down and my guess is she was laying on top of the bookshelf and chewed the corner of the TV. Since the OLED is so thin she can actually get her mouth around the screen pretty easily. Out of warranty but I doubt this would be covered anyways. I put in a request to LG to see what the cost of a repair would be but I'm guessing it will be close to the price of a new OLED. Rough times.
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I was going to buy one of these, but then I saw that it has bad vertical banding under some common circumstances. There are also some other pretty common issues with the screen. I'm really easy annoyed by any kind of uniformity issue, banding, and stuff like that. Should I still buy one? What TV should I get? I don't even want a TV but my wife does. Price isn't too big of a concern, but to put it in context we will hardly use the TV. 2 hours per week at most. I wish they were selling 1080p dumb tvs with decent panels or something, I'd buy that. I'm a big time monitor nerd which doesn't help. Khorne fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Jan 22, 2019 |
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Radioactive Toy posted:Well the saddest thing happened today. Turned on my OLED65C7P today and noticed there was a line across the top and down the left side. Closer inspection showed that the screen was cracked in the very top left corner. We have a book shelf next to the TV and a kitty that likes to chew nearby objects when she's laying down and my guess is she was laying on top of the bookshelf and chewed the corner of the TV. Since the OLED is so thin she can actually get her mouth around the screen pretty easily. Out of warranty but I doubt this would be covered anyways. I put in a request to LG to see what the cost of a repair would be but I'm guessing it will be close to the price of a new OLED. Rough times. Sorry to hear about that man, that's real crappy. Can we get a photo of the cat?
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Radioactive Toy posted:Well the saddest thing happened today. Turned on my OLED65C7P today and noticed there was a line across the top and down the left side. Closer inspection showed that the screen was cracked in the very top left corner. We have a book shelf next to the TV and a kitty that likes to chew nearby objects when she's laying down and my guess is she was laying on top of the bookshelf and chewed the corner of the TV. Since the OLED is so thin she can actually get her mouth around the screen pretty easily. Out of warranty but I doubt this would be covered anyways. I put in a request to LG to see what the cost of a repair would be but I'm guessing it will be close to the price of a new OLED. Rough times. https://www.tvserviceparts.com/LG-EAJ63950601.html Enjoy! May also be this one https://www.tvserviceparts.com/LG-EAJ64448001.html
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Something Offal posted:Sorry to hear about that man, that's real crappy. Can we get a photo of the cat?   Hard to see in the picture but the entire left side of the screen now has some terrible horizontal banding. Here's the little monster.  Don Lapre posted:https://www.tvserviceparts.com/LG-EAJ63950601.html Honestly this is more than I'm seeing a new 65C8P at some places, I might just upgraded this and keep the old one for an extra room TV in the future some time. Though now the TV is also turning itself off occasionally so I dunno if it's worth keeping. Might need to do some research and see if it's worth waiting for a 2019 model as I've been out of the TV research game for a year and a half.
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Hell yea, the freight line lost my tv for 4 days so Target gave me another $50 off. 65r17 for $780 after tax.
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If anyone lives in Chicagoland, somebody on Nextdoor is selling their 55" C8 for $1,600
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Hey guys, not sure if this the thread to ask, but I just upgraded my ancient and slow Roku 2 XD to a Roku Premiere and it works great except for the YouTube app, which is one I use a lot. The issue I'm having is that my TV is 1080P and detected as such, and everything works like it should in the YouTube app until I go to play a video. Even if the video is 1080P or larger, it still only shows 720P size on my 1080P screen. The weird part is that if I bring up the menu or do anything else, it works properly on my screen like it should. It's like it's just not full sizing the video for some reason. I've tried every combination of uninstalling, reinstalling, restarting, and resizing both my TV display and the Roku resolutions. Nothing changes it. The one interesting thing is when I downscale the Roku to 720, THEN the YouTube app plays the video full-screen, like it should. I have googled everything I can think of and can't find anyone with the same issue. Has anyone here experienced this or something similar? Some pictures: Main YouTube menu. Everything fine and showing at 1080 https://imgur.com/h9C6XPR Playing a 1080 video. Brought up the nerd stats so you can see it's actually reading 1080 but only showing 720. The rest of the TV is just black https://imgur.com/OLWx4Qn However, if I bring up the menu, the YouTube app IS using the full 1080 resolution. Just not for the video https://imgur.com/FT1LfCF and yes my TV is ancient but it still has a good picture and it was free
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I have an LG C7, a Denon X1400, a Shield, and a Harmony. I still want to use the built-in Netflix app instead of the Shield for Dolby Vision. I setup a Harmony activity to do so but the receiver kept switching to the Shield input since I think it detected activity. I turned off HDMI control in the receiver which stopped the switching, but now Netflix just doesn't launch on the TV. I don't really know if there's an "input" to select in the Harmony activity for Netflix but I'm wondering if that's what I'm missing. Anyone have this experience?
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Amazon and Netflix both have quick buttons on harmony. Here is my harmony sequence. Power on tv Power on receiver Do nothing with tv input Set denon to TV input (Arc) Then have harmony send the "Netflix" command to the tv 
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My hero. The TV was being set to an input called Netflix instead of sending the button command.
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My LG is still doing that weird thing where it won't recognize the input from my computer (DVI-HDMI) unless I manually unplug the HDMI terminal and plug it into a different one on the back. SimpLink/HDMI-CEC is disabled, so is ARC. What could be causing this?
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Welp, wife fell in love with LG OLEDs after seeing me eye-balling a few at BestBuy. We're probably going to wait til the new line launches this year. I'm guessing towards the end of spring early summer is when we'll see these new models?
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