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FCKGW posted:They're on their 3rd keyboard revision and have pretty much solved those issues though We all know you loving love these keyboards but they are pieces of poo poo that will break. Are you trying to convince yourself otherwise?
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Declaring a long-term reliability problem “fixed” after six months is hilarious
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I can see the craiglist postings now. FS: Macbook Pro. Comes from a pet-free, smoke-free, cheetos-free home.
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Jan 25, 2019 18:11
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https://ifixit.org/blog/12903/flexgate/ should I let this deter me from getting a macbook pro to replace my xps 15 (work computer)
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NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:https://ifixit.org/blog/12903/flexgate/ I’d be more worried about the keyboard making GBS threads the bed
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EL BROMANCE posted:I can see the craiglist postings now. FS: Macbook Pro. Comes from a pet-free, smoke-free, cheetos-free home. I use keyboard cover from amazon with MacBook Pro 2017?
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Bob Morales posted:I use keyboard cover from amazon with MacBook Pro 2017? Not known to help. Bottom line, this gen if MacBooks has a fatal flaw. I’m grabbing a 2015 in a month or so on Swappa and holding on to it till 2021 when redesigned Apple laptops pop off
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LionArcher posted:Not known to help. Bottom line, this gen if MacBooks has a fatal flaw. I’m grabbing a 2015 in a month or so on Swappa and holding on to it till 2021 when redesigned Apple laptops pop off I was imitating (foreign) people on Macrumors A cover would keep dust out, but the butterfly hinge is very fragile and IMO susceptible to damage even without ‘dust’ getting stuck in it
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I still have the original 2016 mbp keyboard and it only hosed up that one time. I do use compressed air on it every month or so though. I love how loud they are.
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I typed on the 2018 MBP Keyboard at the apple store and my fingers got AIDS
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Mu Zeta posted:I typed on the 2018 MBP Keyboard at the apple store and my fingers got AIDS Hmm... It *may* be all the unprotected sex you're having. Or perhaps needle re-use. You may want a second opinion. Also, 2018 keyboard is good.
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Jan 26, 2019 02:17
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japtor posted:Yeah it's not that big of a deal. Main thing to be careful about is the cables, I saw someone on Reddit or somewhere pull the whole fan cable header off the board. Antenna cable pops off easily enough, while the main power cable took a bit of force. And I think I saw some YouTuber break off some tiny capacitor but he did a full teardown. Confirmed; just finished up the 32gb upgrade on the 2018 Mini. Took about 15min start to finish; not bad at all. Helps if you've ever touched the insides of a laptop before. Tweezers would have been nice; but otherwise easy going. edit: and drat; the performance difference is so nice; I'm running a bunch of poo poo in parallels and it's a stark and immediate difference.
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redeyes posted:We all know you loving love these keyboards but they are pieces of poo poo that will break. Are you trying to convince yourself otherwise? No, I have an iPad Pro and a Thinkpad for portables.
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Mu Zeta posted:I typed on the 2018 MBP Keyboard at the apple store and my fingers got AIDS
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The only thing I could see helping with this display flex cable issue is avoiding opening and closing the display.
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“flexgate” lol what a joke
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NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:https://ifixit.org/blog/12903/flexgate/ If it’s a work computer, go nuts because I assume you wouldn’t be on the hook for any repair costs regardless. If it’s a personal computer, AppleCare might be worth it. At a minimum buy it with a credit card with some extended warranty built in.
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FWIW, we've got a couple dozen touchbar MacBooks in service, starting with the first models, and have had a grand total of 0 failures of any sort so far. *shrug* ymmv.
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IuniusBrutus posted:How horribly slow will a 2015 12" Macbook feel in daily use these days? It's completely fine for normal web/office/school use. I have a 2014 Macbook Pro and it does everything fine. Well it did until today. Unfortunately the screen just died today. It turns on and within 30 seconds the screen goes black. I tried using external HDMI connection and that also goes too. The backlight is still on. I guess the screen or graphics driver is dead. Seems like third party repair services are around $450. Is it worth replacing this? Or should I just let it go. I don't need a laptop but I really liked my Macbook Pro. 
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Jan 27, 2019 18:24
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It's going to be slow as gently caress even for browsing. That Macbook has a fanless Core M, those are extremely slow processors for pretty much any usage. It was horribly underpowered even in 2015. The 2014 Macbook Pro the poster before me mentioned is way faster.
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Jan 27, 2019 18:33
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IuniusBrutus posted:How horribly slow will a 2015 12" Macbook feel in daily use these days? It depends on what you have to compare it to. If you're going to compare it to a recent model 13" or 15" Pro, it's going to be only be about 2/3rds as fast in single-threaded stuff. Then in multi-threaded stuff, it'll be at worst, a little better than half as fast compared to the 13". So if something takes a minute to run on a 2017 13" Pro, it'll take in between 1:30-1:50 on a 12" Retina, depending on the workload. If you're comparing it to something like an Air or 2012-15 Pro, the difference won't seem as big.
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I've used a Core M machine: It would frequently chug even with just a single video playing in the background. Scrolling would frequently lag. They're just too thermally limited to be useful.
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Lambert posted:I've used a Core M machine: It would frequently chug even with just a single video playing in the background. Scrolling would frequently lag. They're just too thermally limited to be useful. The other reason to run the gently caress away from a 2015 Macbook 12" is that Apple is only going to replace that keyboard for 4 years after the date of sale. They started selling those in March 2015, so the warranty could end real quick, depending on when the person originally purchased it. I wouldn't want to be stuck with that repair down the road.
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Jan 27, 2019 19:02
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Lambert posted:I've used a Core M machine: It would frequently chug even with just a single video playing in the background. Scrolling would frequently lag. They're just too thermally limited to be useful. macOS relies heavily on the GPU for things like scrolling and video decoding. you wouldn't see chugging scrolling with videos playing, but all that said, you wouldn't be doing much more than web browsing/youtube/doc editing on such a machine.
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Howard Phillips posted:It's completely fine for normal web/office/school use. I have a 2014 Macbook Pro and it does everything fine. Well it did until today. It's a tough call, but I'd probably get it repaired. I've got a 13-inch 2014, and I don't think I could justify the jump for a brand new computer (or that I'd really like not having a computer at all). If nothing else, you can probably sell it for parts and get a pretty decent chunk of change. Heck, I'd even be halfway interested in the SSD if it was a 512 GB.
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nitsuga posted:It's a tough call, but I'd probably get it repaired. I've got a 13-inch 2014, and I don't think I could justify the jump for a brand new computer (or that I'd really like not having a computer at all). If nothing else, you can probably sell it for parts and get a pretty decent chunk of change. Heck, I'd even be halfway interested in the SSD if it was a 512 GB. Let's say that machine is worth $600-650, in 100% working condition A quick glance at eBay shows those things still going for $300+ with a busted screen or water damage. So...can you get it fixed for < $300? If not, just sell it and put the $300 towards buying a new (used) one.
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Bob Morales posted:Let's say that machine is worth $600-650, in 100% working condition I would not go through the hassle of selling it and buying another copy of one. Even if it costs a bit more to repair your current one than shuffling it around, having a laptop that you know the history of is worth something too. Repair it if the price feels right, otherwise just buy a new laptop (or a newer used one).
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I’m looking at base level 2015’s (13 inch) on Swappa and seeing good ones in the $700-$750 range. Pretty stocked about that. (It’s a backup computer to my iMac, basically light photoshop and a lot of Scrivener and iTunes for local files).
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ShadeofBlue posted:I would not go through the hassle of selling it and buying another copy of one. Even if it costs a bit more to repair your current one than shuffling it around, having a laptop that you know the history of is worth something too. Repair it if the price feels right, otherwise just buy a new laptop (or a newer used one). Thanks for helpful advice. I'm gonna shop around for repair. If it's <$400 then I will get it. Otherwise I'll just sell and continue using my 2011 Dell until that one poops also before buying another computer.
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I replaced the backup battery in my Mac Pro 5,1 and it seems to have solved the 'no startup' issue (chime but no grey screen), but it's still taking its sweet time to boot, which is peculiar. Also when I wake the computer from sleep, its fans kick on full-blast for about 20 seconds. What could be causing this?
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Mister Speaker posted:I replaced the backup battery in my Mac Pro 5,1 and it seems to have solved the 'no startup' issue (chime but no grey screen), but it's still taking its sweet time to boot, which is peculiar. Did you specifically pick a startup disk in System Preferences? The drive should be highlighted in the prefpane, if it isn't, just select it so it is highlighted. Not picking a startup disk will make the system just poll all the devices until it finds one with a properly blessed startup disk. quote:Also when I wake the computer from sleep, its fans kick on full-blast for about 20 seconds. What could be causing this? Not sure, are you sure it's the system fans and not the GPU fan?
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Binary Badger posted:Did you specifically pick a startup disk in System Preferences? The drive should be highlighted in the prefpane, if it isn't, just select it so it is highlighted. Not picking a startup disk will make the system just poll all the devices until it finds one with a properly blessed startup disk. Hm, I didn't realize the computer needed to be pointed at the startup disk, figured it would find it and then save it for next time. I selected the disk and restarted. It seems a little faster now, once the chime sounds at least, but the chime still takes a little longer than I'd like. quote:Not sure, are you sure it's the system fans and not the GPU fan? Honestly I'm not sure - you're probably right though, this didn't start happening until I installed the RX580. Thanks for your help!
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If you have it, run Disk Warrior to make sure you have a properly blessed System folder on your startup disk. Otherwise, try holding down command option P-R and wait for the startup bong to go off twice, this should reset all battery backed up settings. Then reselect the Startup Disk and see if the delay still happens. It happened to me a few times back when I had an Apple SSD (rebranded Samsung 830)and I moved it from one of the SATA bays and installed it on a Apricorn Velocity Duo card.
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LionArcher posted:I’m looking at base level 2015’s (13 inch) on Swappa and seeing good ones in the $700-$750 range. Pretty stocked about that. (It’s a backup computer to my iMac, basically light photoshop and a lot of Scrivener and iTunes for local files). Alternatively, the cheap iPad plus Pencil and keyboard 
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japtor posted:I’m assuming you want/need it portable, but if not...you’re not that far off the base Mac mini, which will get you two more cores and a chunk faster per core. And upgradable RAM! A good point. I have an iMac 5k with 24 gigs and two monitors attached. It’s great. But for my portable I need a good keyboard and programs that aren’t on IOS. So old laptop it is! I figure the 2015’s will get next Mac OS and at least the one after that right?
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Hot on the heels of Flexgate.. It's SCREWGATE https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/28/technology/iphones-apple-china-made.html Article starts with mentioning iPhones but towards the middle blames slow production of the Trash Can on inability to source SCREWS. Yep, this is where we are, doesn't really bode well for the new Mac Pro though, if it's going to be made here.
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Binary Badger posted:Hot on the heels of Flexgate.. It's SCREWGATE Considering that I don’t think anyone has discussed where the Mac Pro would be built plus what I assume is a sour taste left over from that, safe bet that it would not be in America.
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According to Macrumors it's been over 600 days since the iMac was updated. Maybe they need screws?
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Mu Zeta posted:According to Macrumors it's been over 600 days since the iMac was updated. Maybe they need screws?
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