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Brawnfire posted:Does anyone have handy the primary source that said the Ferengi were originally meant to be donkey-dicked god-tier lovers? Powered Descent posted:"They also have prodigious sexual appetites and it is said their genitals are of a shape and dimension that Earth women have found as enjoyable as their sexual techniques." -Gene Roddenberry, 1987 e: Dang.
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Feb 5, 2019 23:09
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It's funny how that's all a perfectly good series of ideas for a Star Trek race except there's that one sentence. Also I guess that explains why the Ferengi were always in a glowing white field on the viewscreen at first, I never got what was up with that.
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I love the idea of the bridge being some awful hazardous place where people regularly break their ankles in service to luxury. Some crewman is wandering the ship, unable to find his quarters in the endless curving corridors of identical doors, and refuses to ask for help. There's three hours left before the next shift, and a sonic shower would be amazing right now. Tears well in his eyes. There's a feline supplement with his name on it in that room. "Luxurious," he whispers. Post-scarcity is a beautiful hell, a ship so massive and depopulated that you really can spend 12 hours lost, utterly alone, seeking succor in the soft bosom of your bed. The door tags are no help. What deck is his room on? What deck is he on? The same potted plant passes by for the fiftieth time. Fully-automated luxury space Communism. These words appear unbidden in his mind. The future is torment. The future is ecstasy.
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Feb 5, 2019 23:14
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Tighclops posted:If you just avoid walking on the red part of the carpet you'll be fine though Oh my god that is literally what it was for wasn’t it.
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Feb 5, 2019 23:36
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It's also to mark the void shield perimeter, so no worthless serf can intrude upon the Lord Commander Picard while he communicates with the Holy Enterprise of Piety's machine-spirit.
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Feb 5, 2019 23:44
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Thanks, everyone! My friend is doing his first TNG watch-thru, and had a theory about ferengi dicks. I wanted to offer some sources
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Feb 5, 2019 23:47
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Brawnfire posted:Thanks, everyone! My friend is doing his first TNG watch-thru, and had a theory about ferengi dicks.
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Grand Fromage posted:It's funny how that's all a perfectly good series of ideas for a Star Trek race except there's that one sentence. Honestly, it kind of strikes me as less messed up than the actual result of Ferengi getting intermittently ear-wanked on screen.
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Feb 6, 2019 00:16
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They also crack down on Oo-mox parlors and subspace classifieds postings
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Tighclops posted:If you just avoid walking on the red part of the carpet you'll be fine though That's the coward's way out. Leap over the wooden rail every time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPhOJsa8khs&t=4s
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Feb 6, 2019 00:20
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I mean the darting movements also looked REAL REAL REAL loving dumb in early TNG.
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Gorelab posted:I mean the darting movements also looked REAL REAL REAL loving dumb in early TNG. The introduction of the Ferengi was a disaster and everyone who worked on the show knew it, which is why they cut them back to one episode for season 2 (the one with the douchebag master strategist guy). I wonder what they would have done if the Ferengi had still sucked there, shitcanned them altogether?
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If the Ferengi penis is three feet long, it stands to reason the Ferengi vagina is about four, and the Ferengi womb is inside the skull, and Ferengi are born from the mouth, or perhaps both ears, with an evil capitalist Ferengi coming out the right ear, and a good moral Ferengi out the left, who is immediately ritually executed. Furthermore...
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Powered Descent posted:I wonder how often people tripped over the ends of that big wooden horseshoe rail thing on the bridge. It extends out a surprising distance at just about ankle height. RIP Star Trek Experience, you had a pretty sweet replica bridge
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Generations had the best bridge. And best D. Probably because they used the original ILM model. Too bad about the rest of the film.
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Despite how impractical the D's bridge was I can't help but love that whole aesthetic both it and the whole ship had. The whole thing with making the D more a mobile space colony/city than a ship is one of those concepts I wish they had been more willing to embrace rather than shy away from. We still got a few episodes about that but they really walked back from that before outright abandoning it in later shows.
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Feb 6, 2019 03:58
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They kind of have to do it though. It would have cost way too much execute to any real satisfaction.
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I’d imagine if you weren’t looking at the signs, you would probably get super confused as to where you were on the D, since it’s probably dozens of miles of the same looping beige corridor
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HD DAD posted:I’d imagine if you weren’t looking at the signs, you would probably get super confused as to where you were on the D, it's really an in-or-out proposition
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oh pick, you CARD
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HD DAD posted:I’d imagine if you weren’t looking at the signs, you would probably get super confused as to where you were on the D, since it’s probably dozens of miles of the same looping beige corridor I mean, they showed in one of the very first episodes, all you gotta do is ask the computer and it’ll put a red line for you to follow.
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Grand Fromage posted:It's funny how that's all a perfectly good series of ideas for a Star Trek race except there's that one sentence. I always thought it was lack of budget.
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Phylodox posted:I mean, they showed in one of the very first episodes, all you gotta do is ask the computer and it’ll put a red line for you to follow. And then a female ensign will stare at your butt as you leave
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Feb 6, 2019 05:37
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Pakled posted:That's the coward's way out. Leap over the wooden rail every time. Does anyone still have the looping gif of Worf jumping the rail and then flying out the sunroof porthole into space? Or is that gone forever?
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galagazombie posted:Despite how impractical the D's bridge was I can't help but love that whole aesthetic both it and the whole ship had. Yeah, I think the TNG bridge will forever be my favorite sci-fi set. As much as I dig a gritty and "lived-in" spaceship, the cleanness and simplicity of the Enterprise has always fascinated me.
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galagazombie posted:Despite how impractical the D's bridge was I can't help but love that whole aesthetic both it and the whole ship had. The whole thing with making the D more a mobile space colony/city than a ship is one of those concepts I wish they had been more willing to embrace rather than shy away from. We still got a few episodes about that but they really walked back from that before outright abandoning it in later shows. The D's bridge is loving great and it's one of the only Star Trek sets that really highlights the Federation as a uniquely futuristic thing. Like, yeah, it has some execution problems, the materials are all 80s as gently caress, and it could use several passes by someone actually familiar with creating a good work environment, but conceptually it's great. It's not the bridge of a naval ship so much as it is an office in space, and that works perfectly with what TNG was supposed to be.
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bennyfactor posted:Does anyone still have the looping gif of Worf jumping the rail and then flying out the sunroof porthole into space? Or is that gone forever? 
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TNG season 3 got off to a fantastic start, but "The Bonding" almost put us to sleep. The kid whose mom died wasn't really very interesting, the whole "alien creates an illusion to preserve the memory of someone who died" was just done 2 episodes ago for a much more compelling reason, and it was overall just really really downbeat. And maybe it's just hindsight looking at '90s pop psychology, but the idea that Wesley talking about his feelings when his dad died would line up perfectly with this other kid's feelings about his mom dying, immediately causing him to open up about everything, was eye-rolling. Apparently this was the first episode written by Ron Moore. I can kind of see how this would've worked better on DS9 or later episodes of TNG, where the characters were more developed and could handle a story that's 90% exploring emotions, 10% sci-fi. I also wonder if this episode had anything to do with the drama surrounding Wil Wheaton's role in the series at this point. Allegedly he was told he needed to be there for the start of filming the season because they were doing a big Wesley episode -- which jeopardized a movie role for him -- and then the first episodes they filmed ended up having basically nothing for him to do. So he was pissed. But if at any point this was considered the first episode to be filmed, that actually would've been true.
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HD DAD posted:I’d imagine if you weren’t looking at the signs, you would probably get super confused as to where you were on the D, since it’s probably dozens of miles of the same looping beige corridor I still think they should've had like slide-out colored panels and stuff that changed for different ship sections.
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galagazombie posted:The whole thing with making the D more a mobile space colony/city than a ship is one of those concepts I wish they had been more willing to embrace rather than shy away from. The "families on a ship in extremely dangerous situations" thing bugged me. How many little kids died when the Jem Haddar took out the Odyssey? 
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Cessna posted:The "families on a ship in extremely dangerous situations" thing bugged me. None, they knew it was a particularly dangerous mission and offloaded them to deep space nice
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The entire point of Saucer Sep was meant to be so that they could have it both ways and offload the 'city' part of the ship whenever they went into a tactical situation, but they realised it was a narrative drag and the stardrive section looked really dumb.
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Cessna posted:The "families on a ship in extremely dangerous situations" thing bugged me. Yeah, it was super dumb. Feels like they maybe wanted to use the "city in space" as a plot device and then immediately gave up on that.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:None, they knew it was a particularly dangerous mission and offloaded them to deep space nice
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FlamingLiberal posted:Deep Space 69 *Turns ship around to dock on pylon*
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:None, they knew it was a particularly dangerous mission and offloaded them to deep space nice Will Keiko be watching the hundreds of orphans, or is that Quark's job?
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Remember the end of the DS9 Tribble episode and there's Tribble everywhere? Like that, but human toddlers.
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MikeJF posted:The entire point of Saucer Sep was meant to be so that they could have it both ways and offload the 'city' part of the ship whenever they went into a tactical situation, but they realised it was a narrative drag and the stardrive section looked really dumb. I suspect there was also a practical issue where any new footage of the stardrive section would have much more limited utility for re-use. Sir Lemming posted:I also wonder if this episode had anything to do with the drama surrounding Wil Wheaton's role in the series at this point. Allegedly he was told he needed to be there for the start of filming the season because they were doing a big Wesley episode -- which jeopardized a movie role for him -- and then the first episodes they filmed ended up having basically nothing for him to do. So he was pissed. But if at any point this was considered the first episode to be filmed, that actually would've been true. I thought it was season 4 that he was told he was needed for and Berman jerked him around.
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Cessna posted:Will Keiko be watching the hundreds of orphans, or is that Quark's job? Oh like starfleet doesn't have a well-established orphan processing department
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