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I didn't realize the opinion that game companies that make bad games should go under was an unpopular one on SA, sorry! What I meant to say was 'EA bad!'Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Why would I bother with that? Couldn't condense 20 years of experience down to a soundbite that you would read and take seriously - let's just say you come across as absolutely clueless. 
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Remember when Blizzard tried to sell an F2P casino to children using the Star Wars license for 60 bucks? Good times I do remember when Blizzard, a company that at this point only keeps itself afloat by selling lootboxes, flagrantly disregards anti-gacha regulations about transparency in paid loot box rates by selling you a single premium coin for, say, $20 USD, in Chinese Overwatch that comes with a Bonus Pack of in game currency worth $20 USD that can be used to buy the appropriate amount of lootboxes
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Feb 7, 2019 22:59
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Feb 7, 2019 23:00
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Bardeh posted:There hasn't ever been a game with a system as intuitive and effective as this. Not one that I've ever played, anyway. TBF it's a tremendous evolution of a system that, yes, mosy people saw in L4D. In that, you can highlight/ping a bottle on the ground and Ellis will say "Hey ya'll, got some pills here". Also, the characters in both games say things automatically that both give characterization and help new players "Hey guys, witch; kill your light!". But there's never been a ping system this comprehensive, particularly in your ability to ASK for information instead of just supplying it. Other games have had pinging systems, and some of them were very good at the time they were designed, but this game has officially obsoleted all previous versions.
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Feb 7, 2019 23:02
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Speaking of pinging systems in games, big lol that DICE dumbed down their "ping" system with BFV restricting it to one class and requiring binoculars. Would kind of like to see other big shooters take what Respawn did with their ping system and implement them in their games. Might make playing with randoms a lot better. (Hah, who am I kidding)
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Feb 7, 2019 23:06
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The ping system is great in that your teammates can use it as an acknowledgement by pointing and pinging the same thing that you are. No mic pubbies can let you know that yes, they're pickin' up what you're puttin' down
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Feb 7, 2019 23:07
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Wazzit posted:Speaking of pinging systems in games, big lol that DICE dumbed down their "ping" system with BFV restricting it to one class and requiring binoculars. That's not true at all. Any class can spot and it is context sensitive (spot a tank and your soldier will yell "TANK OVER THERE" and they'll be a red icon of the tank on the minimap) but it won't move if the target moves. The kinds of "spots" that move with the target (which they call "3d spotting") are: 1) Looking at them through the Recon spotting scope spots them for 10 seconds 2) Shooting a flare over their area as a Recon spots them for the duration of the flare 3) Hitting them with any bullet from any gun as a Recon with Sniper specialization spots them for 5 seconds 4) Hitting a vehicle with any weapon that does damage as an Assault with Vehicle Buster specialization spots them for 10 seconds 5) Fully suppressing infantry with weapons fire spots them for 5 seconds It's quite sophisticated, actually. They toned it down because 3d spotting is super powerful.
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Feb 7, 2019 23:11
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I'll tell you this: EA is rethinking their entire marketing department right now EA probably make completelly different conclusions than us. Some of them may even be correct. They have killed many famous companies and popular series, and still survive somehow.
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Feb 7, 2019 23:13
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:That's not true at all. Any class can spot and it is context sensitive (spot a tank and your soldier will yell "TANK OVER THERE" and they'll be a red icon of the tank on the minimap) but it won't move if the target moves. The kinds of "spots" that move with the target (which they call "3d spotting") are: Using any class to spot them is only just an audio queue correct? I still think it was a mistake to take away the "3d spotting" from previous BFs, even if it's powerful I think it kills communication between the entire team which could normally be conveyed in the UI. If anything I would have preferred maybe a "Last known position" kind of spotting that is open to call classes. Nerf the spotting but keep the communication between the team when people aren't hooked up to mics.
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Feb 7, 2019 23:15
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Just pinged defending here at the bunker entrance while the ring was closing in past the door and wiped three squads with my two mic-less pubbies, it’s really a fantastic system for someone that plays solo without a mic. As has been mentioned it could definitely use a “let’s gather up” ping besides the passive callout that characters will occasionally do, but pinging “going here” seems to work pretty well with most randoms I’ve grouped with.
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Feb 7, 2019 23:16
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If they've hit 10 million players during the week, releasing it out of nowhere, this weekend is gonna probably be insane for them. The hype is spreading now, and the game has been glued to the top of Twitch since it released. Hope they got a few extra servers ready to go! Also, I think it was a really ballsy move to do the release like they did. They've obviously spent a lot of time and money on developing this thing, and their last game was considered to be a bit of a flop, mostly because of the way it released (close to other big shooters). It could have gone so, so badly for them if the game wasn't as good as it is. That's gotta be some stress on whoever was responsible for making the decision.
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Feb 7, 2019 23:16
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The ping system works so well because years of games spoonfeeding players objective markers mean they will almost always run towards whatever waypoint pops up...
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Feb 7, 2019 23:19
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while Respawn's previous two games were considered failures by the publisher, they were both excellent critically acclaimed and beloved games Respawn has credibility few studios still retain
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Feb 7, 2019 23:19
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they should honestly never add a solo mode. if people want to solo, just pretend your two squadmates are AI's and that you can direct them with pings like mass effect or something.
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Feb 7, 2019 23:20
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Wazzit posted:Using any class to spot them is only just an audio queue correct? I still think it was a mistake to take away the "3d spotting" from previous BFs, even if it's powerful I think it kills communication between the entire team which could normally be conveyed in the UI. If anything I would have preferred maybe a "Last known position" kind of spotting that is open to call classes. Nerf the spotting but keep the communication between the team when people aren't hooked up to mics. No. You put the last known position on the minimap and a red carat at the location they were last seen in addition to the audio cue. From experience, if you want to have consistent 3d spotting you can have that with a couple dedicated Recon players - they basically just moved it to a dedicated person because it's so powerful. You get huge points for spotting people in BV5, for example a straight kill gives you 100 points but spotting someone on the objective and getting them killed by a squadmate gives you 90 (or 80 for a rando). You can be near the top of the leaderboard by just shooting Recon flares over contested objectives and getting gobs of points from helping people see the enemy, it's actually kind of a meme and super useful. A friend of mine who isn't very good at BF5 sometimes just breaks out the spotting scope and helps me counter-snipe and it's very effective and makes a big difference.
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Feb 7, 2019 23:21
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Captain Gordon posted:Maybe she is doing it to flick it back in again....? Like keeping a football in the air? That'd be quite the trick.
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Feb 7, 2019 23:21
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Bardeh posted:their last game was considered to be a bit of a flop, mostly because of the way it released (close to other big shooters) I thought you were talking about Titanfall: Assault for a second.
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Feb 7, 2019 23:22
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I feel like if they add a solo mode that changes the meta of the 3 squad mode. I'm willing to bet that most squads are random groups and playing in a prefab squad puts you at a huge advantage over strangers coordinating. Not uh deny that the ping system will help these random groups but still.
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Feb 7, 2019 23:23
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Wazzit posted:If anything I would have preferred maybe a "Last known position" kind of spotting that is open to call classes. This is literally what it is. Nothing like cheering for one game to make people try and poo poo on others.
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Feb 7, 2019 23:24
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plester1 posted:I thought you were talking about Titanfall: Assault for a second. I loved Titanfall 2, but I always heard it didn't do that well. Is that wrong?
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Quantum Shart posted:This is literally what it is. Nothing like cheering for one game to make people try and poo poo on others. I always thought that the marker moves along with the spotted enemy for a few seconds?
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Feb 7, 2019 23:25
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The blue lit area at the start of matches is higher quality loot, yes? Worth just launching there with the scrum and living/dying in the first five seconds if I end up jumpmaster? I've always just relinquished it
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Feb 7, 2019 23:26
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Bardeh posted:I loved Titanfall 2, but I always heard it didn't do that well. Is that wrong? It sold ~4M units, so it definitely made >$100M, but EA expected at least 9M units sold so it was a  flop. Ciaphas posted:The blue lit area at the start of matches is higher quality loot, yes? Worth just launching there with the scrum and living/dying in the first five seconds if I end up jumpmaster? I've always just relinquished it Pffffft. It’s the one time I can do something useful: I never give up JM!
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Bardeh posted:I loved Titanfall 2, but I always heard it didn't do that well. Is that wrong? Titanfall: Assault was their very poorly received mobile game, released after Titanfall 2. I believe the servers are already shut down.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:It sold ~4M units, so it definitely made >$100M, but EA expected at least 9M units sold so it was a the playerbase is also pretty drat small, and I'm told basically nonexistant in certain regions.
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https://twitter.com/MonsterclipRSPN/status/1093637239613968384 https://twitter.com/MonsterclipRSPN/status/1093637366621921280 https://twitter.com/MonsterclipRSPN/status/1093637418358456321 
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Pathfinder is a boon to a team because you can pick up Ultimate Accelerants and then throw them at people who actually need them. Also oh my god Pathfinder grapple-swings in the direction you're looking, so you can do swings around objects instead of grappling to a point! Ciaphas posted:The blue lit area at the start of matches is higher quality loot, yes? Worth just launching there with the scrum and living/dying in the first five seconds if I end up jumpmaster? I've always just relinquished it For me I just find it not to be worth it vs just jumping somewhere that has high quality loot anyway. Nobody goes Swampland but it's full of stuff.
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Feb 7, 2019 23:36
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panda clue posted:the playerbase is also pretty drat small, and I'm told basically nonexistant in certain regions. I feel like that's not really a sign of anything. How many games released in 2016 still have active playerbases? There are more multiplayer timesinks than there are humans now.
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Ciaphas posted:The blue lit area at the start of matches is higher quality loot, yes? Worth just launching there with the scrum and living/dying in the first five seconds if I end up jumpmaster? I've always just relinquished it You have to assess the risk of having an immediate fist/firefight by seeing how many other people are jumping into the same area. Same with dropships.
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Eej posted:I do remember when Blizzard, a company that at this point only keeps itself afloat by selling lootboxes, flagrantly disregards anti-gacha regulations about transparency in paid loot box rates by selling you a single premium coin for, say, $20 USD, in Chinese Overwatch that comes with a Bonus Pack of in game currency worth $20 USD that can be used to buy the appropriate amount of lootboxes I could not care less to argue about loot boxes, but I will say this particular maneuver was almost certainly NetEase's idea, not Blizzard proper.
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Finally won my first match in any BR game. Took me over 60 matches. 0 kills but still I did it! Gonna rep my dumb flawless badges even though I didn't do much to earn them.
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Bardeh posted:If they've hit 10 million players during the week, releasing it out of nowhere, this weekend is gonna probably be insane for them. The hype is spreading now, and the game has been glued to the top of Twitch since it released. Hope they got a few extra servers ready to go! I know that if they had announced it I would have written it off. A F2P Battle Royale Game made by the Titanfall guys no thanks
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Atomic Robo-Kid posted:Finally won my first match in any BR game. Took me over 60 matches. Yeah if there's one benefit to the squad system is that you occasionally luck out and get an MVP who will just solo the whole thing and give you credit.
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There's no duo mode in this game, but if you're jumpmaster you can scrape the randy off on a pole or a cliff while you're flying. 
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I'm kind of mad that a game with a name as terrible as Apex Legends gets to be so popular. Just Apex would've been ten times better.
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Matazat posted:There's no duo mode in this game, but if you're jumpmaster you can scrape the randy off on a pole or a cliff while you're flying. This happened to a teammate when our jumpmaster missed the flying ship drop.
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Ugh I came so close to winning a 1v3 and securing first place and I flubbed it at the last out of sheer adrenaline  (oof, me poor heart)
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Steve2911 posted:I'm kind of mad that a game with a name as terrible as Apex Legends gets to be so popular. Apex IS way better, agreed.
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Steve2911 posted:I'm kind of mad that a game with a name as terrible as Apex Legends gets to be so popular. Much, much harder to google.
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Had a really weird game today. I played with two monster players, and they quickly equiped with snipers. We proceed to walk around like the owners of the place. They would sometimes climb somewhere high and torment the other players. But other than a few of these shots. I did not saw anyone. Everyone where loving scared of us. Only at the final circle, that was super tiny, somebody appeared. The difference of skill between good players and the average player is gigantic. I am also becoming better at the game. It feels good. I am not more a drain to the team and sometimes even do some kills.
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