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HEY GUNS posted:for some reason this is reminding me of how US code talkers during ww2 were Navajo and british code talkers were Welsh best part of that would be that you're never sure whether you just intercepted an important piece of intelligence or just some BBC on-air reading of Lovecraft
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Tias posted:From a quick suggestion when you type in "fashwave" on youtube. I ain't loving clicking on any of those, but you're welcome to: America.avi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzIZdWucQpg
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Squalid posted:I have a hard time wrapping my mind around how this guy got into a leadership position in the US army. I mean how the gently caress did the US end up with a Waffen SS guy in charge of training Special forces in anti-guerrilla tactics? HOW the gently caress did an SS guy end up in charge of training and organizing paramilitary units for the US army? He was useful. Think about Werner von Braun, or that Nazi who collaborated with the Mossad.
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Safety Biscuits posted:He was useful. Think about Werner von Braun, or that Nazi who collaborated with the Mossad. how come the SS tactics didn't win the Vietnam war then
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Safety Biscuits posted:He was useful. Think about Werner von Braun, or that Nazi who collaborated with the Mossad. He was an officer in the what passed for Finnish special forces (sissi/kaukopartio, the word "sissi" translates into guerrilla but there is distinct difference between the uses, the sissi forces were/are light infantry with lots of emphasis on extended duration survival in the woods) in WW2 and led long distance raiding parties. Törni was critizised by his contemporaries for being a gloryhound daredevil who had no plans for what might happen if they got killed. But he did have much experience of leading raiding forces deep behind enemy lines. Officers like that (he was a captain in the Finnish army) who were mercenary-minded enough to leave the country after the war. In my opinion if Sabaton needed to do a second song about Finnish war heroes they could have done one about Ilmari Juutilainen. Or general Nenonen, that man was an artillery wizard.
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Feb 10, 2019 12:02
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"The Circle of Fire Correction" sounds like a catchy song title
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or a magic the gathering card. Just learning about the Circle now, that's pretty amazing stuff 
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Feb 10, 2019 12:40
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Fangz posted:how come the SS tactics didn't win the Vietnam war then Special Forces operations in Vietnam were probably one of the more effective parts of fighting in that war and analysis of it probably helped contribute to the balooning of SF in the US armed forces.
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Feb 10, 2019 12:55
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OpenlyEvilJello posted:The 40,000 or so Issei might beg to differ, although being legally barred from citizenship might have been a hindrance. Ironically, many Nisei had rather poor Japanese proficiency as it was seen as not conducive to assimilation.  God that's humbling. I've literally known about them as well as other immigrants from east and se asia for decades at this point.
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Fangz posted:how come the SS tactics didn't win the Vietnam war then SS tactics didn't even work in ww2.
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SS "tactics" I love you
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Ataxerxes posted:In my opinion if Sabaton needed to do a second song about Finnish war heroes they could have done one about Ilmari Juutilainen. Or general Nenonen, that man was an artillery wizard. Yeah, I misspoke. I meant to say that the US thought he was useful, and it wasn't that surprising considering what some of his colleagues got up to after the war.
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Artillery wizard miscasts "Danger close". Please hand in your character sheets and take a new one off the pile of spares I asked you to prepare.
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It seems I have found this thread at a weird timing. Lobster God told me about this place when I asked about another threads opinion on Ken Burns Vietnam Documentary series.
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Fine by me, I've got a few years to go yet and my civil war is the cool one with pikes. The Circle is cool, I didn't know that was a Finnish innovation.
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Combat Theory posted:It seems I have found this thread at a weird timing. no this is pretty typical
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler_Dingo By the way, how do liaison cars/planes work? Basically fax in a faxless age?
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Combat Theory posted:It seems I have found this thread at a weird timing. There was a fairly big discussion of it a few weeks ago, starting around this post. Summary: It's a good intro but is strongly limited by the medium. Milo and POTUS posted:
Language services were probably the most important contribution of the Japanese American community to the war. One member of my local JACL chapter served as a translator on the Dixie Mission to Mao where, among other things, he danced with Madame Mao at his 21st birthday party. Don Gato posted:The book Translating the Rising Sun goes into detail about the US Navy's translator training program, I found it too close to real life to be entertaining since I went through the modern iteration of that program but it is an interesting look at the part of the war that wasn't reported on much since it was so secret. Cool, I should check that out some time.
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vuk83 posted:SS tactics didn't even work in ww2. Yes. They weren't exactly renowned for their tactical acumen; in fact, the regular German army looked at them as brave (or foolhardy) but tactically inept. Cessna fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Feb 10, 2019 |
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OpenlyEvilJello posted:One member of my local JACL chapter served as a translator on the Dixie Mission to Mao where, among other things, he danced with Madame Mao at his 21st birthday party. Now that is a rad story. Anyway, wikipedia was surprisingly helpful on this subject and says it was 65 non-japanese americans who were proficient. That in a nation of 132 million. And that's a major language, not something remotely obscure. I bet you could do an effortpost on translators in warfare. Hell you could probably do one on post war translators alone and I'd bet it's the cold war that really got the military and intelligence communities to kick language studies into high gear. Before that I imagine they devoted the most resources into studying languages of nations that were at least plausible we'd be getting into a scrap with, but with proxy conflicts popping off all over the place you'd have to know all kinds of languages and even minority dialects and poo poo so now if the government needs someone who speaks Dhivehi, they've probably got someone on standby.
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FrangibleCover posted:Fine by me, I've got a few years to go yet and my civil war is the cool one with pikes.
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HEY GUNS posted:none of you knew how to loving use'em and you still don't I mean it is the nature of a civil war to be fought by amateurs. Think of it as method acting 
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Nenonen posted:"The Circle of Fire Correction" sounds like a catchy song title Ring of Fire Correction
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HEY GUNS posted:none of you knew how to loving use'em and you still don't I take absolutely no issue with the idea that the British Army is bad at pikes now, although I will note that the Honourable Artillery Company has a ceremonial company equipped with pikes. The HAC started life as a unit with these newfangled arquebus things, hence the name, and therefore at some point the British Army has reequipped a company from firearms to pikes. I think that's probably relatively unusual.
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Kemper Boyd posted:There's a dude who should have been shot for treason. By who?
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FrangibleCover posted:I mean, technically I'm a Scot. Robert Bruce's army at Bannockburn slaughtered the English with spears. Then the Scottish army were trained by the French and I think some Italians in the very latest methods of hitting people with long sticks and by the time we got to Flodden we were useless and the English won. This not in any way surface level analysis of centuries of tactical developments in the British Isles very definitely demonstrates that the English were good at pikes. Indeed, maybe that's why they were so bad at cavalry, all the good cavalry had been killed in the ECW by incredibly skilled pikemen.
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HEY GUNS posted:none of you knew how to loving use'em and you still don't lol we didn't even kill a million people with our dumb war, a shameful effort
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Marxist-Jezzinist posted:lol we didn't even kill a million people with our dumb war, a shameful effort rupert was the only person who took the thing even halfway seriously and it was a PR nightmare for him. Getting mad at a guy trying to shake a city down for bribery cash, smh
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HEY GUNS posted:nah i was just making fun of English reenactors, who are Very Bad I enjoyed watching the sealed knot playing with cannons when I was very little.
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Marxist-Jezzinist posted:I enjoyed watching the sealed knot playing with cannons when I was very little. we kick their asses every time brits come to central europe
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HEY GUNS posted:they dress good but they don't rough it and most of them can't fight Authentic english military experience.
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the virgin pikeman and the chad legionary
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WoodrowSkillson posted:the virgin pikeman and the chad legionary You mean chad double armed man
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Marxist-Jezzinist posted:You mean chad double armed man
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Finally finished my new America bombers post Though like some neverending school assignment I have a sub-section to finish as to how the V-2's "guidance" system worked.
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Nebakenezzer posted:Though like some neverending school assignment I have a sub-section to finish as to how the V-2's "guidance" system worked. Didn't it just run out of fuel and blow up whatever was underneath it at the time?
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The Lone Badger posted:Didn't it just run out of fuel and blow up whatever was underneath it at the time? The A4 definitely would blow up whatever was beneath it at the time
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THANK YOU! loving hell, have none of you seen a mercenary before https://twitter.com/luke_j_obrien/status/1094774088634195968
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HEY GUNS posted:none of you knew how to loving use'em and you still don't Hey diddle diddle Send the pikes up the middle ?
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HEY GUNS posted:THANK YOU! We call them Private Military Companies now, thank you very much.
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