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treizebee posted:^^ Yeah engagement is funky. A lot of polishing is still needed in tbm. What I do is after each action: I'll click on an enemy with the character that has engagement slots to make sure the engagement persists. It's working pretty well. They are not getting engagement in the first place. It's mostly Pallegina who doesn't seem to reliably engage. Is it because she has a two-hander? The characters with shields can do it way more reliably (Eder with a regular shield, and me, the monk, with Tuotilo's Palm). Edit: And Ishiza, but I don't know if ranger pets can even engage. I blame birds.
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You need a shield or an ability/passive to have engagement slots. Pallegina does not have any engagement capability off the bat. edit : On that point, I do wish there was something on the UI or character sheet that showed engagement slots. It's a pretty important mechanic and you are kinda left to keep track of it mentally. treizebee fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Feb 11, 2019 |
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Feb 11, 2019 22:55
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You need to actually have an "engagement slot" from something, yea. All shields give one, as do some talents, modals and enchantments.
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Feb 11, 2019 22:55
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Oh, well, that'd do it. I thought everyone had one by default. Live and learn!
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Feb 11, 2019 22:59
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So, when the Vithrack Silk Slippers have the "5% chance to recast a spell immediately" what, exactly, counts as a spell? Wizards only? Druids, priests? Ciphers? Also, that seems hilariously strong when it actually fires, depending.
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Feb 11, 2019 23:25
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Prism posted:Oh, well, that'd do it. I thought everyone had one by default. It was a change from PoE1 to PoE2, I forget a lot too.
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Ravenfood posted:So, when the Vithrack Silk Slippers have the "5% chance to recast a spell immediately" what, exactly, counts as a spell? Wizards only? Druids, priests? Ciphers? Also, that seems hilariously strong when it actually fires, depending. I think “spells” means chanter, cipher, druid, priest and wizard abilities.
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The quarterstaff and dagger proficiency modals that boost melee deflection don't seem to work at all? They aren't factoring into the displayed attack rolls.
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Heithinn Grasida posted:I think “spells” means chanter, cipher, druid, priest and wizard abilities. Why do you think that?
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User posted:Why do you think that? I say “I think” because my memory could be faulty and Obsidian’s descriptions and terminology aren’t always consistent (for example, “on hit” sometimes includes grazes and sometimes doesn’t). But chanter, cipher, priest, wizard and druid abilities are disabled while a shifter is spirit shifted, whereas other abilities aren’t.
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Feb 12, 2019 07:43
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Pellisworth posted:The quarterstaff and dagger proficiency modals that boost melee deflection don't seem to work at all? They aren't factoring into the displayed attack rolls. I seem to recall something about these only applying to melee weapon attacks, hence not showing up in your total.
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Avalerion posted:I seem to recall something about these only applying to melee weapon attacks, hence not showing up in your total. Yes, they only apply to melee, but they do not show up in the combat log to-hit calculations against melee attacks.
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Pellisworth posted:Yes, they only apply to melee, but they do not show up in the combat log to-hit calculations against melee attacks. Might be bugged or might be a stacking issue.
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Feb 12, 2019 16:58
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Pellisworth posted:Yes, they only apply to melee, but they do not show up in the combat log to-hit calculations against melee attacks. They don't stack with other modals or active abilities
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Feb 12, 2019 18:59
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Prism posted:Edit: And Ishiza, but I don't know if ranger pets can even engage. I blame birds. I don’t know about other pets, but I’m pretty sure Ishiza’s unique pet bonus is that he can’t engage or be engaged, in addition to ignoring slog zones.
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Feb 12, 2019 23:23
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I don’t know about other pets, but I’m pretty sure Ishiza’s unique pet bonus is that he can’t engage or be engaged, in addition to ignoring slog zones. Immunity to engagement shouldn't prevent you from engaging others, though I assume pets don't get an engagement slot by default either and need the Protective Companion talent for that.
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Yes, he can engage with the talent, but he can't be engaged.
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Feb 13, 2019 00:02
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I just got a strange bit of ambient dialogue from Pallegina: she asked if I remembered when we first met, "on a ship from your homeland." Any idea what prompted that, given that that's definitely not how we met?
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I haven't heard that line, but at a guess you're in the Forgotten Sanctum? There's a bit in there where multiple characters have a line referring to something that never happened, the implication being that the Hand Occult has messed with your own memory. My favourite is Rekke, who asks what became of the other man you found with him in the wreckage
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Feb 13, 2019 03:31
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2house2fly posted:I haven't heard that line, but at a guess you're in the Forgotten Sanctum? There's a bit in there where multiple characters have a line referring to something that never happened, the implication being that the Hand Occult has messed with your own memory. My favourite is Rekke, who asks what became of the other man you found with him in the wreckage This is extremely spooky and I'm here for it.
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There's a few neat lore bits in that DLC: The History Of Eora series of books, which talks about great wilder empires hidden from kith eyes, and a suggestion that Rekke's homeland Yezuha was manipulated and betrayed by Engwith at the same time Ukaizo was. The books go on to describe the future of Eora as well, making them possibly unreliable The final boss is Fyonlecg, a member of the Archmages' Circle who has been erased from history so thoroughly that even the other achmages don't remember him. He claims to have invented several spells: Fyonlecg's Wall of Flames, Fyonlecg's Wall of Many Colors, and Fyonlecg's Pristine Barrier- the first two are in the game but don't have anyone's name attached, and the third is nowhere to be found 
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Ravenfood posted:I just got a strange bit of ambient dialogue from Pallegina: she asked if I remembered when we first met, "on a ship from your homeland." Any idea what prompted that, given that that's definitely not how we met? My wife and I "met" many times before we actually realized the other person existed. We ended up at the same parties, went to the same games, ended up in the same classes. We were just background extras in each other's lives until her birthday party when we actually had a reason to engage with each other. Maybe she's referring to something like that? Like she realized that before your time to the Dyrwood you'd been on a boat together and just not realized it. edit: I see now what probably is happening. Neat. marshmallow creep fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Feb 13, 2019 |
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2house2fly posted:There's a few neat lore bits in that DLC: The Yezhua thing seems to be true based on what's in Beast of Winter. Rekke reads an inscription by the first king of Ukaizo that's in an ancient Yezhua dialect Though I think the implications about Divinity is the neatest thing I read in the histories. It mentions "the first gods" So far I'm enjoying the story and non-visual setting more than BoW. Though I think BoW was an amazing and fantastic visual journey.
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2house2fly posted:There's a few neat lore bits in that DLC: That series of books is great because it's like 90% "HOLY poo poo THE ENGWITHANS WERE EVIL!" Don't forget them also wiping out the now long forgotten communist Orlan empire, pushing them into more or less eternal slavery for it.
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My first game in pillars 1 I was spoiled on the big reveal, but I was still like "man the gods are insanely lovely. Just the most bloodthirsty possible take on every aspect." Then getting Engwithian history and society revealed made that click. My take on why they made the gods in the first place is that consciously or not, the ruling theocracy had to justify their social position, the wars, and the human sacrifice they did in the name of their gods. Basically retconning their own society into making sense.
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Best Friends posted:My first game in pillars 1 I was spoiled on the big reveal, but I was still like "man the gods are insanely lovely. Just the most bloodthirsty possible take on every aspect." Then getting Engwithian history and society revealed made that click. I mean, imagine what kind of pantheon the British empire in it's heyday would've made. Imagine what the American empire would make.
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Don’t act like you’ve never watched professional wrestling
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ProfessorCirno posted:That series of books is great because it's like 90% "HOLY poo poo THE ENGWITHANS WERE EVIL!" Don't forget them also wiping out the now long forgotten communist Orlan empire, pushing them into more or less eternal slavery for it. It's very, very important to note that, right now, we have no idea how much of the lore we find in The Forgotten Sanctum is true, in fact, there are quite obviously some lies sprinkled in the lore books that you can find in the libraries. Still, it's interesting stuff, and it really, really makes me wanna see a PoE3!
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:It's very, very important to note that, right now, we have no idea how much of the lore we find in The Forgotten Sanctum is true, in fact, there are quite obviously some lies sprinkled in the lore books that you can find in the libraries. Just because Eora is not ready for this doesn't mean it's not all true 
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Unrelated to the deep lore chat, but the lady who reforges Woedica's Crown commented on the horny Eothasian diary in my inventory and that was one of the best dialogue interactions in this game.
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Basic Chunnel posted:Don’t act like you’ve never watched professional wrestling John Cena would make a pretty good Eothas.
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Feb 13, 2019 13:03
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Basic Chunnel posted:Don’t act like you’ve never watched professional wrestling
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Feb 13, 2019 14:43
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Cardiovorax posted:I only wish you could get professional wrestling on TV here. I love that cheese. Also the beefcake. The last Joe Rogan's standup talks about wrestling, how it's totally gay, and how it makes so much sense.
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Well, it was invented by the ancient Greek. There's a reason they did it naked.
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His bit goes on saying that anywhere else in the world outside of that square, if a guy shows up in shorts, leather boots and tights, it's to suck cocks. It's very gay (and it's fine, he goes on saying). Anyway sorry for off-topic, this just made me think of that show because I watched it recently.
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Back in the Old City. I'm in Veteran this time and the fight for Min's Fortune doesn't play around so much there, huh?
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Furism posted:The last Joe Rogan's standup talks about wrestling, how it's totally gay, and how it makes so much sense. Typical of a hack like Joe Rogan to rip off Roland Barthes
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Basic Chunnel posted:Typical of a hack like Joe Rogan to rip off Roland Barthes
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Does anyone have any fun build recommendations? Possibly for turn-based? I played a Monk/Barbarian last time, so I want to do something different this time.
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ThermosAquaticus posted:Does anyone have any fun build recommendations? Possibly for turn-based? I played a Monk/Barbarian last time, so I want to do something different this time. I really like paladin+priest as a way to force me to roleplay a kind of character I otherwise wouldn't. Anything+rogue is good in turn based because of the level 1 movement ability rogue gets.
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