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Slutitution posted:lmao Try saying something funny first.
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Equeen posted:Try saying something funny first. I don't have to; Zack Snyder films are hilariously bad all on their own. Apologies.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Bud, it's right in Man of Steel during the Zod fight. It can This is something a deep cover agent would say. Been to Moscow lately, comrade?
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Equeen posted:Try saying something funny first. His posts are funny, in a sad clown kind of way RBA Starblade posted:Snack Zyder He totally is a snack tho. Dude's ripped.
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https://twitter.com/zacksnyder/status/1101544093417500673?s=21
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http://www.artcenter.edu/connect/events/snyder-directors-cuts.html For you Californians.
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Mar 1, 2019 19:14
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gently caress me, 100 dollars for a ticket. 
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Mar 1, 2019 19:16
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Expensive, but I got tix for the BvS one Gunna be nice after years of the insanity regarding this film on the forum to finally hear from and speak to the man himself.
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If not for the ailing health of my partner, I would no joke travel to California from Europe just for this. Sucks so bad that I will miss this
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The art accurately represents the current state of the Author
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McCloud posted:His posts are funny, in a sad clown kind of way This is what most of us think about Zack Snyder films.
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AccountSupervisor posted:Expensive, but I got tix for the BvS one Dang, hope you provide a trip report. Should be super interesting.
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i'm gonna be in LA for vacation but I can't make any of those and it really bums me out that I can't watch BvS with a director's Q&A afterwords because that sounds dope as hell
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Yeah I've already planned a few big trips this year and don't have the disposable income to get out to LA on that short notice (plus I think that's the weekend we are celebrating my wife's birthday which probably wouldn't go over well haha) but that is dope as hell and the people who are going need to ask good questions; like how his Randian beliefs influenced his take on Pa Kent
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"Hello Mr. Snyder, huge fan, thanks for taking your time to answer these questions. Anyway, I was wondering... what if Man of Steel were in color??"
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"How long did it take Lex to make the tea"
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Can I ask Snyder fans ITT how in the gently caress do you admire a man who's an unapologetic Randian Objectivist shithead?Martman posted:"Hello Mr. Snyder, huge fan, thanks for taking your time to answer these questions. Anyway, I was wondering... what if Man of Steel were in color??" The color grading in Snyder films has got to be the only thing that isn't bad about them IMO.
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Slutitution posted:Can I ask Snyder fans ITT how in the gently caress do you admire a man who's an unapologetic Randian Objectivist shithead? Lol you're just a joy
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Slutitution posted:Can I ask Snyder fans ITT how in the gently caress do you admire a man who's an unapologetic Randian Objectivist shithead? But you are one of those reactionary cranks who thinks that Kathleen Kennedy is trying to sap his masculine energy. Surely the imaginary objectivism is a saving grace?
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Ferrinus posted:But you are one of those reactionary cranks who thinks that Kathleen Kennedy is trying to sap his masculine energy. Surely the imaginary objectivism is a saving grace? How does it feel to admire a man who produces even worse films than Kathleen Kennedy has lately?
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Slutitution posted:How does it feel to admire a man who produces even worse films than Kathleen Kennedy has lately? If you think they’re bad, we can safely conclude that they are not actually right-wing in their politics.
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Slutitution posted:Can I ask Snyder fans ITT how in the gently caress do you admire a man who's an unapologetic Randian Objectivist shithead? I'm able to because him being that is, essentially, a bizarre internet meme unsupported by reality.  Man of Steel is, if anything, a super explicit rejection of Randian philosophy, landing somewhere closer to Brad Bird's whole "exceptional people should use their talents for the common good" motif.
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Mar 3, 2019 18:50
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I'm able to because him being that is, essentially, a bizarre internet meme unsupported by reality. Snyder is an admirer of Ayn Rand though. quote:Given all your involvements, do you have time to develop anything outside of [BvS]? I don't think it's The Problem With Snyder's Movies or anything like that but the Objectivist stuff didn't originate with film critics reading too deeply into his work.
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Mar 3, 2019 18:56
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Cease to Hope posted:Snyder is an admirer of Ayn Rand though. "such a thesis on the creative process" = "I'm a big fan of all her work and follow her ideology."
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Grendels Dad posted:"such a thesis on the creative process" = "I'm a big fan of all her work and follow her ideology." Rand only wrote two books, and the Fountainhead is the one focused chiefly on laying out her worldview and philosophy. It's about a creative man whose work is so misunderstood by the mindless proles and jealous leeches than he ultimately destroys his public housing project rather than allowing it to be used by the unappreciative. Rather than facing any consequences for this, he lauded as morally correct and a genius for doing so, and goes on to make a new building, free from the fetters of public service. (Also the ostensibly sympathetic protagonist is a rapist but I don't think that's really how Rand meant for that scene to be read.) I think it is reasonable to describe him as an Objectivist if he feels that this is a thesis on the creative process and what it means to create something, because Rand certainly intended it to be a thesis on etc. etc.
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If you seriously don't understand how a book specifically about a creator fighting to preserve their vision for a work against interference from outside parties might appeal to a filmmaker for reasons completely unrelated to the authors politics, then you have no loving business talking about art
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:If you seriously don't understand how a book specifically about a creator fighting to preserve their vision for a work against interference from outside parties might appeal to a filmmaker for reasons completely unrelated to the authors politics, then you have no loving business talking about art This. Also, thesis isn't automatically an endorsement. I would take Snyder's words as him thinking it's an interesting exploration of the creative process, he doesn't necessarily have to agree with it. But CtH is clearly already set on this loving idiotic argument and by god, they will fill pages with it no matter what others might say.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:If you seriously don't understand how a book specifically about a creator fighting to preserve their vision for a work against interference from outside parties might appeal to a filmmaker for reasons completely unrelated to the authors politics, then you have no loving business talking about art those are the politics though. the elevation of genius over the wicked manipulators and unappreciative masses is objectivism. serving your own desires and whims is the highest ideal, and anyone who demands anything else of you is just holding you back. you're just saying he's an objectivist for reasons. well duh, it's not like god made him that way.
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Seems to me he intentionally described the work in an extremely narrow way to avoid the political part, which would be weird if he liked the political part Also MOS/BVS are outright rejections of that philosophy Also even if you were right, that quote isn’t “admiration”
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AdmiralViscen posted:Seems to me he intentionally described the work in an extremely narrow way to avoid the political part, which would be weird if he liked the political part You are describing Fountainhead as though it had some "apolitical" part that is commentary on the creative process. It does not. The story about the creative process is the political part. Roarke gives a speech at the end laying out the themes of the book in very clear terms: creative men are ones responsible for the entirety of human progress, everyone else is a wrecker or a leech on them, and those creative men will one day realize they don't need lesser people for anything. quote:The creators were not selfless. It is the whole secret of their power—that it was self-sufficient, self-motivated, self-generated. A first cause, a fount of energy, a life force, a Prime Mover. The creator served nothing and no one. He lived for himself. quote:No work is ever done collectively, by a majority decision. Every creative job is achieved under the guidance of a single individual thought. An architect requires a great many men to erect his building. But he does not ask them to vote on his design. They work together by free agreement and each is free in his proper function. An architect uses steel, glass, concrete, produced by others. But the materials remain just so much steel, glass and concrete until he touches them. What he does with them is his individual product and his individual property. This is the only pattern for proper co-operation among men. It goes on like this for pages! The jury is stunned, everyone stares at him in awe, then the story ends happily ever after for him. What do you think an Objectivist is?
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Cease to Hope posted:You are describing Fountainhead as though it had some "apolitical" part that is commentary on the creative process. It does not. The story about the creative process is the political part. Roarke gives a speech at the end laying out the themes of the book in very clear terms: creative men are ones responsible for the entirety of human progress, everyone else is a wrecker or a leech on them, and those creative men will one day realize they don't need lesser people for anything. Are you ever not wrong about anything?
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Cease to Hope posted:You are describing Fountainhead as though it had some "apolitical" part that is commentary on the creative process. No I’m not. I’m describing what he says he took away from it, which is very narrow Also MOS/BVS are outright rejections of that philosophy Also even if you were right, that quote isn’t “admiration”
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What political part of Fountainhead do you think Snyder disagrees with?
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Cease to Hope posted:those are the politics though. the elevation of genius over the wicked manipulators and unappreciative masses is objectivism. serving your own desires and whims is the highest ideal, and anyone who demands anything else of you is just holding you back. The thing is, while that's an evil statement applied broadly, Snyder's reading of Fountainhead applies it narrowly. Serving your own ideals and whims in the production of your art is somewhat different from doing that in governance, and much more defensible.
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Cease to Hope posted:You are describing Fountainhead as though it had some "apolitical" part that is commentary on the creative process. It does not. The story about the creative process is the political part. Roarke gives a speech at the end laying out the themes of the book in very clear terms: creative men are ones responsible for the entirety of human progress, everyone else is a wrecker or a leech on them, and those creative men will one day realize they don't need lesser people for anything. It’s true: the workers, the true engine of creation, should act as a class in and for themselves rather than allow the parasitic, dictatorial, gangster-like bosses to sap them of their energy.
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Cease to Hope posted:What political part of Fountainhead do you think Snyder disagrees with? Literally nobody knows or can answer this because the entirety of his statement about it is "I think it's interesting and have been working on it". We're not the ones using that single quote to retrofit his entire political belief structure to fit our opinion on him as a, let's see, "unapologetic Randian Objectivist shithead" Like, do you agree with that assessment of him as a person?
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Cease to Hope posted:What political part of Fountainhead do you think Snyder disagrees with? What about Fountainhead do you think Snyder agrees with? What about his work demonstrates this? Asking other people to argue the negative is just tricking other people to make your point on your behalf. Do your own homework. Schwarzwald fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Mar 3, 2019 |
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Hey AccountSupervisor, in the Q&A outright ask Zack Snyder if he's an Objectivist who follows Ayn Rand's philosophy so we can put this dumb poo poo to rest. Or ask him to clarify his The Fountainhead statement in that quote posted.
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