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Footage of an unreleased WCW game popped up today. That would be interesting enough on its own, but take a look at the name: https://twitter.com/WCWWorldwide/status/1103123364795822080 Universal Wrestling Corporation was the name the Turner owned company was originally given (and then used as the holding company that dealt with WCW's liabilities following the sale to WWE.) The use of UWC might indicate the name was supposed to stick, or was a placeholder, or that no one in the company knew what was going on and hosed up.
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Mar 6, 2019 06:04
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I'm amazed and baffled and various bits. You can pin down to within almost a few weeks of when the game was developed because how specific it is. Universal Wrestling Corporation was not a name used much publicly. Out of curiosity, I'm looking at news archives and there seems to be exactly one Associated Press article mentioning it and it didn't get wide distribution. The name of course was an umbrella for the Crockett-Turner merger that started in October 1988. The one AP story came out in November. The WCW name was adopted very quickly, so why not use it? What is Jimmy Garvin doing in here? He wasn't even in WCW at the time of the UWC name. He hadn't been in the company since the end of the Bash tour and didn't return until mid-1989. Eddie Gilbert is oddly specific, too. Gilbert was hugely promoted up the roster in late November 1988 after everybody else left. He was a major name for WCW for a few months, but why he and Garvin over Lex Luger?
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Mar 6, 2019 07:50
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Mr. Carlisle posted:WCW wasted so much money but even if it was just the millionth Hogan squashing someone match they made it feel like a big deal and I respect that im getting (really really) into osw reviews, and pre-nwo wcw is the best era of bad wrestling to watch, and it is simply astounding that they paid michael buffer so much to do announcing jobs in front of crowds of, like, 6,500, and he never, ever, ever learns anything about the product, the wrestlers, or even the basic rules and concepts of professional wrestling over the entire run. it was pretty incredibly bad and dumb but yeah dude in the 90s hearing that dude yell "lllllets get ready to ruuumbllleeeeee" was like moths to a flame. just an all-time great catchphrase. it lasted so long he got TWO pretty good dreamcast games.
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Mar 6, 2019 08:08
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shiksa posted:im getting (really really) into osw reviews, and pre-nwo wcw is the best era of bad wrestling to watch, and it is simply astounding that they paid michael buffer so much to do announcing jobs in front of crowds of, like, 6,500, and he never, ever, ever learns anything about the product, the wrestlers, or even the basic rules and concepts of professional wrestling over the entire run. I first heard of him from the boxing games, then I was surprised as hell that he was in WCW. It was a nice idea having him in but I'd have only had him for a couple of PPVs to give it a bit of an aura.
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Mar 6, 2019 09:23
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Even better, he was the final boss in one of those games. "Buffer is no more. Just me, Rumblemaaaaaaaaaaaan!"
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Mar 6, 2019 12:28
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His description of Goldberg’s Jackhammer is a thing to behold
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Mar 6, 2019 13:29
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Apparently that game also had Michael Jackson, Shaq, and both Bill and Hillary Clinton as boxers That was a trend I guess in the 90s, I remember Bill and Hillary being in NBA Jam as well
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Mar 6, 2019 18:02
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pathetic little tramp posted:Apparently that game also had Michael Jackson, Shaq, and both Bill and Hillary Clinton as boxers MJ’s appearance in that necessitated mocap data. I have seen it applied to other models (for other games), and it’s way good.
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Mar 6, 2019 22:27
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The gameplay in UWC looks A LOT like the first WWF Superstars game for Gameboy
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Mar 7, 2019 02:04
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“Don’t miss an opportunity to meet Ric Flair at Payless Drugs” Watching the Steiners vs the Horsemen while having dinner. It’s still not easy to watch Benoit knowing what he did, but if I can detach from that for a moment holy poo poo his stuff looked amazing. Everything he did looked so believable and snug. In no way excusing anything he did, it’s just jarring to see the quality of his work vs someone like his tag-team partner Mongo, or most of the modern day WWE roster. Fake Edit: Oh god Kevin Sullivan just hit Benoit with an unprotected chair shot to the head with a wooden folding chair. I feel sick now.
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Mar 7, 2019 06:09
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Yeah, that sounds like watching a Benoit match :/
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Mar 7, 2019 06:54
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benoit was insanely good. i didnt grow up watching bret so when i thought "technical wrestler" i thought benoit. well, until, obviously he also always got his loving head pounded in as much as possible and its pretty nausea inducing to watch now, of course.
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Mar 7, 2019 07:01
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I'm just so used to the sloppy bullshit WWE puts on nowadays that seeing Benoit chopping the gently caress out of Rick Steiner blew my mind. Sonny Onoo was a really fun manager in 1997. 
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Mar 7, 2019 07:21
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Yeah, there's always an uneasy undercurrent to watching Benoit matches now, but there's no denying the guy was just incredible in the ring.
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Mar 7, 2019 07:23
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Jerusalem posted:Yeah, there's always an uneasy undercurrent to watching Benoit matches now, but there's no denying the guy was just incredible in the ring. That's a definite understatement, on both counts. I used to watch him do the diving headbutt and writhe around on the mat afterwards and convince myself he was just selling. Now... 
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Mar 7, 2019 07:25
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there was one time that benoit did a dive to the outside and someone did a full on, gently caress you baseball swing of a chair to his head. the wwf was... pretty fuckin bad for awhile on that front. (granted a career of diving headbutts definitely has its share, but jesus) shiksa fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Mar 7, 2019 |
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Mar 7, 2019 07:28
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I'm pretty sure it was Jericho who did that to him 
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Mar 7, 2019 08:48
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shiksa posted:there was one time that benoit did a dive to the outside and someone did a full on, gently caress you baseball swing of a chair to his head. the wwf was... pretty fuckin bad for awhile on that front. Jerusalem posted:I'm pretty sure it was Jericho who did that to him Yep, Royal Rumble 2001, I thought it was the most awesome thing ever back then. Still kinda do but I wish I didn't. It's just incredibly memorable. And of course it was just an all-around great match.
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Mar 7, 2019 08:56
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NikkolasKing posted:Yep, Royal Rumble 2001, I thought it was the most awesome thing ever back then. Still kinda do but I wish I didn't. It's just incredibly memorable. Oh poo poo that ladder match.  I remember being blown away by that match as the best ladder match I'd ever seen. Instead of doing lots of flippy nonsense the two of them put on a hell of a match using the ladder as a brutal vicious weapon.In less memorable match news, just finished watching Dennis Rodman and Hulk Hogan vs The Giant and Lex Luger at Bash at the Beach 1997. That sure was a match I just watched.
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Mar 7, 2019 09:04
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On the After 83 Weeks podcast Bischoff talked about #paying Rodmanquote:The total fee was just a little over $1 million, like a million and change. But that was for a number of different appearances. It wasn’t just for one appearance. I know that sounds like a ton of money, and it is a ton of money…But in the big scheme of things you know, Mike Tyson probably got three times that much. Other performers in WWF get much, much bigger numbers. And I knew, the math I did going into that negotiation, as I said a few minutes ago I had a number in my head, because in my mind getting Dennis Rodman would create a certain amount of buzz that if I had to pay for would probably cost me three times that much money…The press that I knew I would get from that I really wouldn’t even be able to buy.
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Mar 7, 2019 23:13
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Chris James 2 posted:On the After 83 Weeks podcast Bischoff talked about #paying Rodman they paid him 1 million dollars for the poop feud that's not even touching 97 or 98.
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Mar 7, 2019 23:20
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Chris James 2 posted:On the After 83 Weeks podcast Bischoff talked about #paying Rodman I assume he is talking about the 97 appearances and not 98 because 98 came out in a lawsuit and it's more.
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Mar 7, 2019 23:21
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NikkolasKing posted:Yep, Royal Rumble 2001, I thought it was the most awesome thing ever back then. Still kinda do but I wish I didn't. It's just incredibly memorable.  Benoit/Finlay at Slamboree 1998. Chris Benoit takes the kind of neck damage in that match that would paralyze a normal human.
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Mar 8, 2019 03:42
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 Somehow the Jericho thing is even worse since in hindsight, I think Benoit kind of bats the chair away with his arms...then full on smooshes his head on the guardrail regardless
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Mar 9, 2019 08:57
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Yeah the actual chairshot is one of the more protected ones he ever took, it’s the landing that really sucked
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Mar 9, 2019 12:48
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Chris Benoit should have probably protected his head a bit more. More controversial opinions from your maverick gonzo to come soon.
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Mar 9, 2019 18:07
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It’s hosed up. He spends his whole life taking unprotected shots to the head, and what does he get in return? Murdered by his friend Kevin Sullivan. It’s disgusting
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Mar 9, 2019 18:13
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NienNunb posted:It’s hosed up. He spends his whole life taking unprotected shots to the head, and what does he get in return? Murdered by his friend Kevin Sullivan. It’s disgusting Was it murder or was it Benoit willingly dying so he can protect the business
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Mar 9, 2019 18:14
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DeathChicken posted:
I've watched this for like two solid minutes, but to me it looks like he lands just short of the guardrail and his shoulder takes the brunt of the fall on the floor. I could be wrong, however.
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Mar 9, 2019 19:11
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Your Taint posted:I've watched this for like two solid minutes, but to me it looks like he lands just short of the guardrail and his shoulder takes the brunt of the fall on the floor. I could be wrong, however. Top of his head rams the guardrail
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Mar 10, 2019 01:41
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The Total Package Lex Loser
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Mar 12, 2019 07:00
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Your Taint posted:I've watched this for like two solid minutes, but to me it looks like he lands just short of the guardrail and his shoulder takes the brunt of the fall on the floor. I could be wrong, however. You're right
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Mar 12, 2019 07:04
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BGrifter posted:“Don’t miss an opportunity to meet Ric Flair at Payless Drugs”
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Mar 12, 2019 14:52
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How often did wcw end Saturday night before the match ended? I was watching a fun Vader/Austin vs flair/Anderson match from 1993 in the Vader collection. It went about 30 minutes and they ran out of time and told to watch the Sunday night show to know how it ended. Did they every show the end of those matches? Or just tell you who won? It’s too bad they didn’t edit the end on the network version of it.
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Mar 18, 2019 06:47
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_ZkqfSpbg4 Just recently discovered this video covering the details on Collision In Korea including Scott Norton being interrogated by North Korean officials and more. It's pretty amazing if you've never seen it.
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Mar 19, 2019 16:37
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Mr. Carlisle posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_ZkqfSpbg4 Thanks for this. The idea of interrogating Scott Norton amuses me. Dude's the white Meng.
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Mar 19, 2019 19:11
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Sports Illustrated ran a good oral history of the event in 2015. Norton's among the interviewees. They even talk to CNN guys who traveled with them.quote:Bischoff: I didn’t think too much about it. I didn’t ask permission. I didn’t ask anybody in Turner Broadcasting before I left. I had friends that worked at CNN in the news division. I thought, I’m just gonna pick a couple brains to make sure I won’t end up in jail. I asked them, flat-out: ‘What will happen if I go over there without permission from the government and bring 15 very high-profile celebrities with me?’ They said, ‘Ah, the State Department may detain you, they may make you sit in a room and make you answer a bunch of questions, they may make your life uncomfortable or miserable kind of as a slap on the wrist for doing something you shouldn’t have done. But they’re not gonna put you in jail.’ I said, ‘Great. If I’m not going to jail, I’m on a plane.’ quote:Scorpio: We was having a whole lot of birds for dinner. When we got to the hotel, it was full of pigeons. As time went on, pigeons started to disappear. That’s all I’m saying.
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Mar 20, 2019 03:52
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That is a legit fantastic read
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Mar 20, 2019 04:13
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Kim Justice did a great video on this that got pulled of Youtube thanks to WWE
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Mar 20, 2019 04:30
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Kim Justice did a great video on this that got pulled of Youtube thanks to WWE The video is up elsewhere, fortunately: http://www.retrounlim.com/2018/07/09/wcw-njpw-collision-in-north-korea-biggest-wrestling-show-of-all-time/
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