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Dawgstar posted:Really? Jean? Lurdiak posted:The difference is that white christians were and still are the majority cultural demographic in europe and america and jews and muslims are not. While Stan and Jack were not christian, it's pretty fair to say they had a good idea what christian people are like since they lived their entire lives immersed in a culture that is defacto Christan. That makes them writing a bunch of catholics and protestant characters not comparable to the literally count-them-on-one-hand muslim characters in superhero comics being written by people who may or may not know much about muslim culture.
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Edge & Christian posted:Yeah, when Claremont came back for round two (three?) on the X-Men she had an uncle who was a minister who got killed more or less off-panel and there was a a bit of a thing about faith in that run if I recall. I mostly remember it because it was kind of out of nowhere that she had anything resembling a religious upbringing. Oh, neat! Thanks. And now I will heave a sigh at the notion the Grey clan was brutally murdered. Oh, Chris.
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Mar 14, 2019 04:43
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Just call everyone 'rear end in a top hat', 'fucker', or shitheel'; they are gender neutral.
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Xarbala posted:Honestly the fact that so many of us remember a time when dude or bro very nearly became neutral terms speaks to our age more than anything. The sir thing is because in the military this is actually the proper terminology. Or at least that was my understanding of it.
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Vince MechMahon posted:The sir thing is because in the military this is actually the proper terminology. Or at least that was my understanding of it. In the US Army, at the very least, "Ma'am" is correct. quote:4-5. Most forms of military courtesy have some counterpart in civilian
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Hostile V posted:Y'all and yinz are delightfully nonbinary terms I use regularly. I appreciate this Pittsburgh inclusivity.
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Endless Mike posted:In the US Army, at the very least, "Ma'am" is correct. Oh yeah I was just using the US military as a reference, as a proud American I forgot to consider things might be different in other English-speaking countries.
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Mar 14, 2019 19:35
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would just like to give a big gently caress you to whichever nazi coward gave archy that new av
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I feel sort of bad wading back into this because it really doesn't have much to do with comics, but clearly I touched a nerve so I want to clarify. First, whether it's on your radar or not, gender-neutral terms of address are a going concern in my field, and an ongoing issue in feminist and LGBTQ+ circles. I shouldn't have started from such an aggro position, because of course not everyone is aware of these structural issues with male-coded terms like "dude" or whatever, but once you're aware of them, dismissing them out of hand feels like a lovely thing to do. Here's a brief blog post by the educator Diane Rubino, that does fine as a very broad overview, and another by Debbie Cameron that makes a similar point while acknowledging the semantic slipperiness of such terms. I hope it's also self-evident that the ambiguities of these terms are especially pointed for non-cis people. As a trans woman, even when it's used innocuously and in good faith, when I hear "dude" or "sir" a very different sort of interpallation is going on, and non-binary and trans students across the board have expressed to me a discomfort with "guys" as a form of plural address. Like, I'll acknowledge that it was awkward and difficult to train myself to not reflexively slip back into "ok guys" when addressing a class, but making that effort to find less compulsorily gendered and gendering ways of negotiating my way around language has been worth it, and as a simple gesture of empathy I think it's well worth practicing. How Wonderful! fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Mar 14, 2019 |
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Mar 14, 2019 21:23
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site posted:would just like to give a big gently caress you to whichever nazi coward gave archy that new av Personally, I think avatar 'gifts' should be public knowledge. People do lovely things when they can hide behind anonymity.
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Mar 14, 2019 22:06
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Yeah its an artifact that needs to go cuz it's just increasingly a tool of chickenshit chuds to throw tantrums and not get called out for it
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Mar 14, 2019 22:29
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re: the word dude, it's kind of a contextual thing, and i'd say as a general rule it's gendered if you're using it as a noun and non-gendered if you're using it as an interjection "I gently caress dudes" doesn't make sense as non-gendered, but "dude, chill out" is not necessarily the same
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Mar 14, 2019 22:36
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I run in leftist circles and me nor any of my friends are perfect angels, but as long as you learn from, and respect people when they tell you something you said made them uncomfortable, and not, you know, spend $20 self owning, you're generally ok. It's the folks that continuously make the same mistakes and/or angrily refuse to admit that their actions impact others that get rightfully chastised. If someone doesn't want to be called dude because it's masculine in their local dialect then don't call them dude and move on with your life.
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Mar 14, 2019 23:11
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Gynovore posted:Personally, I think avatar 'gifts' should be public knowledge. People do lovely things when they can hide behind anonymity. They've said it isn't possible to do this, the admins can't even see who made the purchase.
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ImpAtom posted:They've said it isn't possible to do this, the admins can't even see who made the purchase. Wait what??? Mods/admins, can I get a confirmation on this?
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ImpAtom posted:They've said it isn't possible to do this, the admins can't even see who made the purchase. What a well coded forum.
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Gynovore posted:Wait what??? Confirmed.
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X-O posted:Confirmed. gently caress. I had always assumed that if Goon A bought Goon B an *extremely* offensive avatar, Goon A would be banned. Now you're saying that the admins can't even tell who bought who what? Fuuuuuuuuuuck.
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Someone once discussed their sexual assault survival story in a thread that was about that topic and someone else bought them a truly disgusting avatar and title that both made fun of them for it and accused them of only sharing it to "attention whore". I can only assume that person is still posting today.
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Mar 15, 2019 01:42
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Cool to think about how back in the day doing that was considered funny and celebrated and being able to do it anonymously was a feature not a bug
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site posted:Cool to think about how back in the day doing that was considered funny and celebrated and being able to do it anonymously was a feature not a bug The mods were not happy about it iirc, but this was the silver age of the forums, attitudes had already been shifting.
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Can the mods/admins tell whether an avatar was bought by the user or by someone else?
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Gynovore posted:Can the mods/admins tell whether an avatar was bought by the user or by someone else? The only avatar adjustments that mods/admins can see a history of are the ones done personally by mods/admins. So if some mod gave someone an avatar I'd see that under their user history. If you gave someone or yourself one I would not.
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X-O posted:The only avatar adjustments that mods/admins can see a history of are the ones done personally by mods/admins. So if some mod gave someone an avatar I'd see that under their user history. If you gave someone or yourself one I would not. So, if someone was a racist trumploving chud, they could buy themselves an horrible racist avatar, and when people inevitably complain, they could say "Oh woe is me, some scurrilous individual forced this horrible, horrible avatar upon me! But fear not, I shall buy a new, friendly avatar as soon as I get a birthday check from my Aunt Mabel!" And no one could prove otherwise or do anything? gently caress.
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The mods or maybe just admins can force change the av and the racist would be out some money but yeah
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Gynovore posted:Wait what??? It's because the payment poo poo is completely separate from the forums as a whole And given the all volunteer staff, that's not a terrible idea
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Lurdiak posted:Someone once discussed their sexual assault survival story in a thread that was about that topic and someone else bought them a truly disgusting avatar and title that both made fun of them for it and accused them of only sharing it to "attention whore". I can only assume that person is still posting today. That one turd in Gen Chat bought me one mocking another posters sexual assault, that was incredibly cool to find out about while I was at work because my email blew up with like ten PMs at once
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I hear a lot of my students use "dude" and "bro" in a gender-neutral way. That's just my personal experiences though.site posted:The mods or maybe just admins can force change the av and the racist would be out some money but yeah This is a better idea than what we currently have.
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Hell, I got doxxed, and my actual picture from a work advert was slapped on my profile and no mod could tell me who did it.
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Yeah fortunately I got a pretty toothless and petty one-- honestly if someone hadn't very kindly gifted me an av cert right after I would have just learned to live with it because, like, what's the worst that would happen--? People would have seen it and thought a) that I like gender neutral language (true), or b) that I poop in a diaper (untrue for decades! and in any case transparently juvenile). I can only imagine getting one that's deliberately triggering, or a doxxing (that sucks bunnyofdoom, like, enormously-- sorry it happened to you) or actually obscene or offensive. And yeah the anonymity is pretty lovely too. I hope that if I have any kind of reputation on SA its as someone who's generally willing to talk out differences and back down from a hardline when necessary, or to acknowledge when my emotions have been running hot and apologize accordingly?
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bunnyofdoom posted:Hell, I got doxxed, and my actual picture from a work advert was slapped on my profile and no mod could tell me who did it. What the gently caress? That’s really frightening. What were they even angry about?
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Wendell posted:What the gently caress? That’s really frightening. What were they even angry about? Basically: Long Story Short: I worked for a Canadian Political Party at the time. Someone in CanPol got mad, doxxed me, and also emailed my boss directly trying to get me fired.
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This tweet reminded me of that one moron, so I'm posting it to subtweet him because i know hes still reading this thread https://twitter.com/PrettyBadLefty/status/1106538423693856769?s=19
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Was mostly just gonna back off from this thread for a while, but I'm kinda weirded out that someone not only gifted Archyduchess a rude redtext, but gave me two separate ones. I was worried I'd seriously offended someone despite my apology and edit, but now I'm suspecting shenanigans. More cash for Lowtax's cyber spine, I guess. Anyway, back to shutting the gently caress up here for a while.
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Looks like Gunn is back on GotG, so the chuds didn't win that one.
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Supposedly they didn't even look for a new director, so they probably never planned to fully remove him.
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Yeah they just put the film on hold. The articles say they made this decision months ago.
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Cernovich is already trying to start the same poo poo back even though today is not a good day for that. hopefully this time they don't cave.
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Hemingway To Go! posted:Cernovich is already trying to start the same poo poo back even though today is not a good day for that. hopefully this time they don't cave. I doubt they were unaware this would pop up again and decided they could handle it.
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